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  1. juju.simba

    juju.simba New Member

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    i am trying to think who would be interested and who would be dumb enough to part with draft picks on a $15M INJURY /FADING FOOTBALL PLAYER ???
    the cards,bears,jets,raiders.rams??? a wild guessing on my part
    but it sure be nice to get something for him like you said
    if jake does return and play for us which is a possibility [ireland wants him back ] i would have to think about putting him at right tackle

    1 other thing you didnt mentioned starks he walks ?? and mcDaniel ? [the latter i hope] makes us awfully thin at DT even with his improved
    play of late i am not confident odrich can last a whole season at dt as a starter , hopefully i am proved wrong
     
  2. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I'd way rather resign Bush and let Smith walk.
    You wanna let our only playmaker walk while resigning a guy who is allergic to playmaking?
     
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  3. oakelmpine

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    Then get Chad Henne to run the offense
     
  4. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    Trade Egnew for ticket sales people
     
  5. oakelmpine

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    I'm more and more down with the idea Jake has to go (if he wants crazy money) and spending that money on the many holes on the team.
     
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  6. Fin-Omenal

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    Resign Ted Ginn.
     
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  7. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    Jake will not be rehabbed by draft time in April. We tag him then look for a team that is interested and it means we keep him. By the time the draft comes teams will have their FA figured out and who they want to draft. No team is going to trade a first round pick for Jake and his 15 million dollar tag if he is not fully healthy yet and no, he is not going to be fully recovered by draft time. It will be two months before he can even seriously think about lifting anything related to substantial with his left arm. Bad idea There is no legit agent in his right mind that would reveal to a team what other teams are offering him. If that ever happened that agent could kiss his relationships with other NFL teams goodbye forever.
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What was the specific injury again sir?
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    First thing I do..Make sure every one of our free agents wants to be here, wants to be a part of something special, and is totally willing to sacrifice their body to the cause..whoever doesn't bleed aqua, gtfoh..It's gonna take special players to win in this town, and in that stadium..

    I'd place a number on each contract and try to sign every one..they don't accept my offer, they gone..

    There's value in each player we have for free agency, and were already the 2nd youngest team in the league..place the value, make the offer.

    Whatever I have left, put it in free agency..Greg Jennings is the target, has been the target, and I don't need a close affiliation with my coach to know that..29year old player...Fast, strong, seasoned, if My coach endorses it, I don't get outbid for his services, he's that good, and the variables are too strong.

    Mission for the draft...Find great football players that have identity and character bursting from their veins.

    Draft..Study the pass rushers/d'ends, if one of the blue chippers fall, then I'll take him, preferably Dion Jordan..If he's there, Jordan's a Dolphin..

    If their all off the board, have trade down strategies and partners on hand, the value in the draft relative to our biggest weakness (overall receiving units) is late first 2nd round.

    If I can trade down a bit, there's one player on my mind..Tyler Eiffert..If you can get this player in the twenties, were gonna be happy..

    So at this point, I have secured Greg Jennings and Eiffert/Jordan.


    The talent infusion from 2 of those three players is excellent..

    The rest of the draft depends on how it shakes out in the first..I know I'm getting one of those receivers..Preferrably Tavon or Bailey..

    After that I'm just gonna go with my board..next defender off the board will be the best Corner/safety/linebacker on the board..

    Another draft mission..Aquire two of the 4 Stanford prospects...I have my reasons.
     
  10. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Good cornerbacks don't grow on trees. Running backs are a dime a dozen. Smith would make an excellent #2 CB or a solid #1 CB. Smith must be one of Miami's top priorities.
     
  11. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I could go either way on Smith.
    My problem is without Bush we have exactly zero playmakers on offense. Maybe miller is ready to emerge as a playmaker.
    I guess I'm just afraid of a repeat of last season. You know, when we traded away one of our only playmakers and did sh*t to replace him.
     
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  12. jdang307

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    Try to resign all of our players to reasonable salaries. I'd rather cut them when I know I have better players, then just let a better player walk away without a replacement.
     
  13. Stringer Bell

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    Are you Jeff Ireland?
     
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  14. Disgustipate

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    I have no idea how certain things will realistically play out, but here's what I would like to see-

    I would like to see Pat Devlin re-signed.

    The focus at running-back should be finding a compliment to Lamar Miller, rather than re-signing Reggie Bush. I want power, and I don't think we should be afraid of risks. I'd like them to look at Peyton Hillis, Reshard Mendenhall, and trading for Legarrette Blount. Someone who isn't going to carry the expense of a franchise back but at least can carry a pretty heavy workload and consistently give 4 yards a carry.

    I'd like to see them solve Tight End before the draft. I personally would prefer one of Brandon Myers or Jared Cook. I could be convinced with Martellus Bennett(whom I like tremendously but I'm not sure he's much better than Fasano as a receiver). I'd dubious of Jermichael Finley but I think Philbin deserves his choice. Fred Davis, Dustin Keller, and Dallas Clark leave me limp.

    I'm interested basically in Greg Jennings or the draft only at wide receiver. Wes Welker and Mike Wallace are great at what they do but don't solve what we want to do, and Dwayne Bowe gives me gas.

    They should try to find a short-term deal for Jake Long that is less than the franchise tag. He's been too good to give up on, and he's going into free agency at the low point of his career and earning potential, and may have to rehab early off-season. It seems beneficial to all parties.

    Nate Garner should be re-signed and penciled in at a starting job. He doesn't seem to distinguish himself in the off-season, and is not great when he comes in cold off the bench...But he's performed well when asked to be a starter in 2009 and this year.

    I'm more and more sold on the idea that Randy Starks should walk, and Jared Odrick moved to 3-technique.

    I think it'll be hard to find an every-down replacement at the psuedo Closed-End position. I don't think there is anyone in free agency, and limited guys in the draft. I think it might be Bjoern Werner or bust in this regard, I think otherwise you're looking at a bunch of role players.

    I'd like to see developmental project on the DL to try and find a guy who can fit somewhere between the psuedo Closed-End position and 3-technique. I know converting Phillip Merling and Matt Roth are regarded somewhat dubiously around here, but guys like Justin Smith and Calais Campbell are the **** and we should hop on that bandwagon.

    You don't touch Dansby/Burnett. See if you can get Dansby to take a pay cut, but unless T'eo falls to you and you fall for him, there's no reason to get rid of him.

    I think you see how Kevin Coyle feels about shifting more towards the 3-4 and 3-3 elements of the defense, and maybe look at rush linebackers, but I think it might be a hard sell.

    I think you're much better off at cornerback than anyone wants to accept. Your goal should be finding a #1 guy to replace Sean Smith, not overhauling the backfield. You've got loads of guys who have been serviceable Nickel/#4 corners and are young enough and who can develop. Maybe not into the ball-hawk people have boners for, but oh well.

    Re-sign Chris Clemons. **** the hater(MERRY CHRISTMAS)

    Dan Carpenter and Nate Kaeding compete in camp next year.
     
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  15. Silverphin

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    I can get behind that.
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    Im LOL'ng at all the talk about Sean Smith. Dude shows some flashes in the beginning of the year. But has been just another guy for the most part. Low priority on the resign list unless he takes a contract on par with his play thus far.
     
  17. Desides

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    The problem with that is it's hard enough to get one good cornerback in free agency, let alone two. And it's not like the draft is an embarrassment of riches at DB. There may be only two DBs selected in the first round, and only one of them will actually deserve it.
     
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  18. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    qft
     
  19. Fin-Omenal

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    He's not a 6-7M a year player either way IMO.
     
  20. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Kidnap the Falcons offensive players and Seahakws defensive players.
     
  21. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I'd be fine with 6-7M per year. Ideally it would be 5M but that seems wishful.
     
  22. padre31

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    I think we need a Fb, like Lane's story but he is not very good at his job as a blocking Fb

    At least bring in competition for him.
     
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  23. Fin-Omenal

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    For Sean Smith?? What has he done to merit that kind of payday?
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    No, he isn't. But we likely have no choice.

    5 million would be perfect.
     
  25. Fin-Omenal

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    I don't feel like its that hard to find average CBs. PITT fielded a top 10 defense for the last 13 years with aoverall some very average CB play.
     
  26. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    We are disagreeing on our thoughts about Smith's talents. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
     
  27. Fin-Omenal

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    I wasnt being combatative, simply trying to understand what Im missing .
     
  28. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Never thought you were, I just know you're stubborn (I am too). I feel like Smith is a solid/decent #1 CB but if we could find a better option then we should. However I don't think we should let him walk because he is talented. There aren't really any better options in FA barring a massive contract to Revis who is coming off an ACL tear. The draft talent is nothing to write home about but I'd be OK with Jonathan Banks in the first round giving us a line up of Smith, Banks, Marshall/Patterson, Carroll/Wilson, or something to that effect. Just IMO.
     
  29. Fin-Omenal

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    Ahh. Well if you think Smith is a good #1 cb than we have no choice but to disagree.

    Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
     
  30. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think that's a bit uncharitable. Lane is inconsistent, but he's also got ball carrier instincts that a lot of lead blockers don't have. There are times where he's made some really good choices where other fullbacks would just plow straight ahead or block the first guy.

    If it isn't Lane it's Charles Clay. Clay is a good enough lead blocker to stay on the roster on those merits. He doesn't have those runners instincts that are valuable with zone blocking but there are times he's made blocks out of his weight class too.

    I think if anything they will find a blocking tight end, who will like all the other tight ends on the roster end up in H-Back roles. You've almost got to find a specialist if Fasano walks.
     
  31. padre31

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    I'm a fan of getting a young Qb a Te to target, to me it makes their development happen more quickly.

    This is why Egnew is such a disappointment to me, and it almost means you cannot wait on him to develop.

    If the goal is to develop Tannehill you have to have that Te imo, Fasano is good all around but we need more.
     
  32. juju.simba

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    i agree ,surely we can go after one of these cook,keller,finley fa or eifert,ertz or fauria via the draft

    and i re sign fasano as a #2 te $2m max

    i would like that depth 1 of the above ,fasano ,clay,egnew surely we can get production out of them guys and use them in right situations

    also i think bringing in another fb to compete is a good idea maybe a greg jones of the jags ?
    although i do like alot of things lane does , pass catching [under used!] short yardage option etc
     
  33. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm really curious about Glenn Dorsey. He's never developed as a pass rusher, but the guy is a quite good run defender playing a position you wouldn't expect it as a 2-gap 3-4 DE. What happens if you move him? He's a better run defender than Randy Starks at 3-technique, I'd wager. Could be just as good as a 1-technique? How much would he cost?
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    I think generally, if you're a top-50 CB, you'll get ~$6M.
     
  35. djphinfan

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    That's a credit to both Hartline and Starks.

    If I were the GM I'd try for the following off-season:

    Re-sign:
    Smith $7 mil/per
    Hartline $6 mil/per
    Bush $5 mil/per
    Starks $4 mil/per

    Sign:

    Wallace or Jennings at $8 mill/per
    Jared Cook $1 mill/per
    Eric Winston OT $5 mill/per
    mid-level G in the $1-$1.5 mill/per range


    Draft:
    1. Pressure player at DE or LB like Jordan or Margus Hunt (I think he'll move up by draft time)
    2a. S Matt Elam
    2b. Stedman Bailey WR
    3a. Trufant CB
    3b. Shayne Skov ILB

    I think something like that off-season would make me very happy.
     
  37. jdang307

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    I'd be happy with that.
     
  38. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Solid #1 CB means average to me. He would be an excellent #2 CB IMO. I'd pay 6-7M per year for an excellent #2 CB then draft someone you think could be a good #1 CB.
     
  39. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  40. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    free agency:
    1) pro-bowl burner @ WR
    2) pro-bowl caliber left offensive guard

    draft:
    1) best payer availble in first round & let him compete
    2) top TE in draft
    3) shut-down safety
    4) stud pass-rusher

    re-sign as many of our starters as possible @ a fair price

    no too much to ask & we certainly will be poised for an excellent off-season this year
     

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