Sports Buzz: Fins Unlikely to Sign Any FA Wide Receiver

I don't follow college football enough to have an opinion one way or another on the incoming draft class.

Regardless, the strategy of eschewing expensive free-agents is one that basically is practiced by most of the teams that have sustained success in the NFL. Devoting a large % of your salary cap to a non-QB puts the team in a hole for a number of years, and really necessitates playing guys on rookie contracts.

The WR position certainly needs to be addressed, but I don't see Wallace and Bowe being the right path. I think the team would be better off singing multiple guys. Bringing in Devery Henderson, Kevin Ogletree, Fred Davis, and re-sign Brian Hartline. Find a WR or two in the draft. Hope that Matthews and Egnew develop and Clay becomes more consistent.

 

One problem....(big problem for me)...I don't see a "WOW" player in that group. pay what will be a 40% markup from a top 10 draft pick and get a sure thing. Draft a DE or CB.

 

Greg Jennings and Devery Henderson would make for a pretty awesome improvement of the passing game.

I say spend on the passing game, and make sure you upgrade the OL. Draft DEFENSE.

 

Sect..even you?

All about the Schedule, especially with a young team, Freeman had a relatively easy schedule in 2010, in 11 it got tougher, in 12 it was more like 10's.

Bigger picture though, on one hand this is a very dumb thing to make public, on the other hand do we really want Ireland giving FA's big $$$ deals to Wr's?

Legedu Naanee...'nuff said

 

D players make less than Offensive guys, better value if you hit on offensive skill guys.

Overall mind you, maybe a DE/OLB/Cb can earn big $$$, but overall your usual DT does not approach what a all pro Wr type pulls down.

 

Because someone getting $60M+ is going to warrant a high-number of targets. Not to mention there is a decent history in the sport of players becoming **** once they get a big payday.

 

I trust Ireland to find defensive players. Offensive players...I don't think he has a clue.

 

I wouldn't mind Jennings at all, assuming the price is right. At this point, I'm also starting to believe they'll make an effort to replace Fasano.

 

If we do it with Jermichael Finley..it will either be a bonanza...or completely blow up in our face. No in between.

 

I would prefer Fred Davis to Finley. I think a lot depends on how they feel about Egnew as well. He's a big question mark.

 

I actually agree with VManis here. I don't think there's much new, much significant, or even much bad in this article.

There's one inflammatory quote in the article that's likely to incite riots from people that are unhappy with Jeff Ireland but otherwise I'm not sure how much valuable news or information is in there.

The Dolphins were never likely to spring for Mike Wallace and I'm not even sure that he and Pitt won't find a way to make it work anyway. Dwayne Bowe is a guy that I keep hearing that from a character standpoint you want to stay away from at all costs. I don't know how true that is but I keep hearing it.

And nothing in that article made me think the Dolphins unlikely to go after Greg Jennings. I'm with Anonymous on that one. Philbin may prefer to build through the draft and within the system but I'm very sure he would accept Jennings as an exception, since he already developed Greg Jennings in his system. There were persistent rumors that the Dolphins DID inquire Green Bay about James Jones, but were too far apart on the price tag.

In actuality, the presence of guys like Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe and Wes Welker on the open market in 2013 may just serve to knock down the price tag of a guy like Greg Jennings who is having the most awful 2012 among them. Obviously, Jennings' 2012 is sort of good and bad. It's good in that it makes him cheaper and more affordable. It's bad in that it calls into question whether he's "done" and also surprisingly may bring Green Bay back to the table as a buyer.

But as for the question of whether he's "done"...I would argue absolutely not. He's 29 years old. I don't know that there's a strong history of receivers, especially ones like him that are such strong route runners, being "done" when they're 29 years old. And I don't know of a significant history of knee injuries or anything like that. His injury history is just a history of normal bumps and bruises that happen during the season, ankle twists, knee sprain, hamstring pulls, etc. The most significant is the tear to his lower rectus abdominus which happened in Week 1 of this year and that's the problem he's been dealing with all year. It won't heal because it's nearly impossible to rest it, it's such a functionally important muscle group in every day life. So after trying to rest it and let it heal and that not working, he opted for surgery. Now he's trying to come back from that surgery and it's not working out so well. I'm no doctor but I hardly think of this type of injury as career impacting. I think it can be a surprisingly impactful injury in the short term but in the long term it just doesn't feel like something to be wary about.

So in short nothing Barry Jackson reported in there made me think Greg Jennings is any less likely of an acquisition, and even if they don't pull in a Greg Jennings there's nothing wrong with building that unit through the Draft.

The question is just whether you trust this front office to do that. That's why the one quote in there about Ireland thinking he's really good at the Draft is so incendiary, as it's the exact issue many people have with him.

 

....and Carrot Top is good at telling jokes.

 

All the more reason not to give him cash to sign guys to play offense.

Basically, it seems to me the only way we upgrade is if we get very lucky b/c I agree, Ireland is just piss poor at finding offensive playmakers, he sort of seems to look for blue collar guys and that carries over to the skill guys

Two times he didn't, Egnew and Turner, blew up in his face.

 

It certainly isn't crazy. But its only a mystery to us. The coaching staff knows exactly where he is. He certainly could be a bust that can't see the field. Or he could be a good player that hasn't developed the habits of a professional, and is being held back by the staff to send a message.

 

No?

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He's very good at manning the "Coaches Dog House'" position at least.

I used to call Lorenzo Booker the "2007 Call of Duty Champion' b/c we never saw him play for most of the year, it looks like Egnew will surpass LoBook's invisibility cloak in 2012

 

A good QB can make poor talent play good. Don't you know that by now. Its all over every tannehill thread.

 

I'd be surprised if he were.

A trade wouldn't surprise me though.

 

I think Egnew and Clay will be fighting each other for a roster spot next offseason.

 

Personally I think closer to 10%.

 

No way would I sign Wallace.

 

I'd be shocked if that happened.

 

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Based on what I've seen this year I could put together a mix tape of Mike Wallace that would make even all those people who think Brandon Marshall a bad football player because of his dropped touchdowns cringe.

But there's also no denying what Wallace brings to the table. For me it's about the price tag.

 

No thanks to Ogletree and Henderson.

 

I personally think Ogletree very overrated. I don't know about Henderson but Ogletree seemed to me to be made by the people playing around him, spiced in with a little luck and some good QB play.

 

Nope. More like.."That's nice". Reminds me a ton of Chris Chambers and Bernard Berrian in college. (both of which I thought would be very good in the NFL btw)

 

I think the thread title is misleading..

Tis comes down to Philbin, if he wants Greg Jennings I'm sure we will get Greg Jennings..

Should be able to rebuild this offense in the draft, even if Philbin doesn't want Jennings.

 

Agreed. I'd much rather sign Jennings, re-sign Hartline, retain Bess, retain Matthews, and draft a wide receiver early (round 1-3).

 

Doesn't understand or care, one or the other, about details of his craft.

 

I'm not a big fan of Ogletree's game. He seems pretty raw to me. But when looking at whats available, I think he could present some value.

I do like Henderson a bit though.

It really will come down to cost for both of them though.

Any FA WRs in this class that you like for this team?

 

Chaz Schilens is also a player I really liked in Oakland, but he hasn't looked good for the Jets.

 

If not lower, lol.

 

i think it's solid too, Cobi Hamilton is another you can throw in there.

 

Also just noticed that Brandon Gibson is a FA. He's an underrated WR IMO.

 

Never been as big a fan of Cobi Hamilton.

Terrance Williams is a guy that would seem to fit right into what is generally perceived to be missing in this WRs unit. One thing I really appreciate about him is that because of the unique spacing in Art Briles' offense, Terrance Williams has already learned to work in a compressed space (i.e. dealing with the 12th defender, the sideline). On a bunch of his plays, he's got virtually no space between himself and the sideline, but he finds a way to make plays anyway, he's such a threat vertically. But it's not just speed. He shows really good hands at times and also mixes in some pretty good run after the catch, especially in the middle of the field.

There are enough players in this unit in this Draft that I'd want to come away with 2 of them, and realistically I'm not sure you sign a big name free agent plus draft 2 guys in the top 4 rounds. That's why I could take or leave the idea of signing a free agent.

 

We love when people talk out their arse. You obviously want a high pick on a WR, which I'm assuming is a 1st or a 2nd, so here's Ireland's 2 years running the draft.

Mike Pouncey- NFL's best center ---- your WR alternative: Jon Baldwin - 18 catches, 261 yards this year. (yeah, that would've been a great move, smart guy)
Ryan Tannehill- franchise QB-------- your WR alternative: Michael Floyd (apparently you'd rather have Floyd than Tannehill)
Jonathan Martin- possibly our LT of the future ---- (apparently you think LT is less important than a 2nd round WR...... silly boy)
Daniel Thomas- (perhaps your memory problems left you forgetting we didn't have a starting RB entering the draft and HAD to use our 3rd round pick to get one)

(2 of the next 3 picks after this were on WR & pass catching TE)


A few years from now these first 4 picks might stand among the best in the league as a collective.