this roster has the least amount of talent in the league.

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  1. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    I think that's 20% old regime 80% this regime. Sparano was just a bad talent evaluator & teacher. I think having someone with Mike Sherman's experience has helped more than we ever thought it would.
     
  2. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Actually, not really. If the team makes the playoffs and competes well there, then it's time to celebrate. Or if the team finishes near .500 and plays really well, then there is reason for optimism. Certainly, every win should be enjoyed and celebrated.

    But, celebrating now with wins over the Rams, Bengals, Jets & Raiders? Seriously? They have a long way to go. There was reason in the pre-season for pessimism for the upcoming season given the play of the team, a rookie starting at QB, and what was near similar talent to last year.

    I was not at all pessimistic about the Vontae trade, however, I thought he was inconsistent and was very happy with it.

    But, Philbin has brought the team together to play much better than I thought they would and that's a great thing at this point.

    However, I've been watching football long enough to have seen innumerable teams start out one way the first 6-8 or even 10 games and wind up in a completely different situation by the end of the season. Sometimes a team looks terrible early on and wins 6 or 8 in a row and goes on a tear. Other times a team looks great the first 10 games and loses several games and doesn't even make the playoffs.

    I think the Dolphins do have a growing confidence in them and belief - that is huge in the NFL. And, I like the job Philbin has done. So, I am cautiously optimistic. But, there are still holes and weaknesses and the season is very unpredictable.
     
  3. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Bumping this thread should serve as a reminder to think twice about passing such prematurely harsh & extreme judgment about a season before the season even begins. Much of the fan base doesn't want to hear that type of deflating crap when our record is 0-0. Posters who were optimistic about the season had to deal with this buzz kill nonsense on a daily basis, and when whiny, ranting threads like this are in the main forum rather than the SoapBox where they belong, it grows even more annoying.
     
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  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    The title of the thread is:

    "this roster has the least amount of talent in the league".

    So no...no we do not need to wait till the effing playoffs to disprove this insanity.

    Half the season will be over this Sunday and we'll be either 4-4 or 5-3. That is not the worst talent in the league.

    This is why people feel the need to gloat. Its the constant moving of the damn goalposts and stating bull**** feelings as if they were fact.
     
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  5. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    Go back and look at the time of the trade. I thought we got excellent comp for the lazy bum.
    There is no hindsight involved. I didn't think we would miss him at all.
    Everyone had to make a big deal and :cry:about it.
    Another simple over reaction by Dolphin fans.
     
  6. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    So you're saying it's ok to raise the pitchforks and prematurely declare the season a bust when we're 0-0, but it's not ok to be happy that we look much better than the doom & gloom that half this board vehemently predicted we'd be? Sorry, seems a little hypocritical to me..... or a lot hypocritical. This team obviously has talent, and it's obviously now headed in the right direction. Slick's point was that people who were outwardly deeming the season a failure during preseason lose all rights to tell others to temper expectations now that we've actually played some games b/c that's worse than the pot calling the kettle black.
     
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  7. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    So what. How many SB teams have you seen with All Pros at every position? You don't have to have a perfect team to have a playoff or SB caliber team. Even without Brandon Marshall we're a better team now than the very good team that finished last season 6-3. We're 10-6 over the past 16 games IIRC, and the arrow should be pointing upward considering nearly all of our young, cohesive, developing team is staying in tact and should remain so for years to come.
     
  8. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Care to wager on that? Didnt think so.
     
  9. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Could of fooled me.
     
  10. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    didn't say it was likely. but probable, yes. Care to bet me it's not probable? Didn't think so.
     
  11. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Something tells me all the energy in the Jeff Ireland threads that were closed has been funneled into this one. ;)
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I don't think it is probable. It is possible.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If they keep winning, the point is they didnt deserve it, they deserved imo, somewhat of a clean slate just to see how they would respond with all new dynamics involved.. well, it's half way point and they are thee surprise team in the NFL..
     
  14. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    :huh: I'm confused. You think we'll probably lose the next 9 games?
     
  15. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    no

    probable : establishing a probability <probable evidence>
     
  16. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    lol I'd love to bet you that it's not probable.
     
  17. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    ^^see above definition
     
  18. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    No, bumping old threads to gloat is against this boards' TOS. Since 3 threads have already been closed, I would have thought you would have given it a rest by now. Unless you're working on a 3rd username to come back as. Maybe PhinTodds?
     
  19. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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  20. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    You have probable and possible mixed up.
     
  21. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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  22. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    no I don't. That's the definition.
    You don't know the full definition.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/probable

    here's another one

    prob·a·ble
       [prob-uh-buhl] Show IPA
    adjective
    1.
    likely to occur or prove true: He foresaw a probable business loss. He is the probable writer of the article.
    2.
    having more evidence for than against, or evidence that inclines the mind to belief but leaves some room for doubt.
    3.
    affording ground for belief.


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/probable
     
  23. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    It's a battle you won't win. This is from me getting busted on it a year ago when I went back to visit the Bryant McKinnie vs. Colombo debate -

     
  24. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Sooooo you think it's likely we go 4-12. Yea I take that bet.
     
  25. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    lol I'll take it as you are going to start posting gifs now since you see you are wrong.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    This is a forum to discuss the Miami Dolphins. This is not a forum to discuss other posters or hold them "accountable". If you want to discuss the topic of the thread, you're more than free to do so.
     
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  27. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    lol No I'm quite sure I know when to use the word possible instead of probable but whatever you think.
     
  28. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I posted the definitions of probable. I am using it correctly. You probably just didn't know the full definition and rather then admitting that are pretending the definitions exist. You are just ignoring them lol. Sad.
     
  29. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    My point was that at that time they both (Ross and Irish) deserved some criticism. Ross was meddling with the franchise where an owner should not be. Irish, I've defended all along, feeling that Sparano and staff was as much responsible for not developing players as Irish was for acquiring them in the first place, but neither was he defining a direction for this franchise, one of the responsibilities of the GM. I've never been behind the "Irish has had 4 yrs" crowd, particularly after Ross decided to retain him and move forward from there.

    How harsh should we have been, that's up for debate, however those circumstances have changed.
     
  30. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    lol yea while ignoring the first definition. Too funny. Whatever makes you feel better
     
  31. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    so you think there is only one definition for a word and the others are meaningless? Right. Whatever helps you feel intelligent.
     
  32. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    No I think intelligent people would use the most accurate word whenever possible and not have to try to interpret an obscure 3rd definition of an inaccurate one. But that's just me, and the English language.
     
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  33. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    lol I'd say intelligent people would see they were wrong for their original attempt at portraying their intelligence, suck it up, and move on.
    And fyi in things like math books, the word is used a lot like how I used it. It's where I picked it up from.
     
  34. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Yes it's very relevant to all the math problems we were discussing.
     
  35. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I was discussing probability. What subject is probability under slickj?
     
  36. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    No, you were discussing the likeliness that Miami goes 4-12, which while possible, is not probable.

    Context.
     
  37. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    True debate is not so bad but it's been like watching someone try and explain to a mid-evil Pope that the world is really round. Anyone openly supporting that theory would just be crucified as you can clearly look around you and see the world is flat.
     
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  38. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    That would be probability. Just like you said want to bet. What does betting entail again? Oh right probability.
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I have to side with slickj on this one.
     
  40. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    that's your prerogative
     

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