Post-Game Reactions

Number 1: I think its weird for people to feel the need to temper other people's enthusiasm about a sports team that hasn't had much to be enthused about. If the joys of watching a young QB develop into something special should be tempered because he may fail, then what's the effing point of watching sports at all. Every game could be a win or loss, following your logic, don't celebrate a TD because we may lose.

Number 2: Henne's failure has literally nothing to do with Tanny succeeding or failing. Not getting excited about Tanny, because Henne was a failure makes as much sense as saying we should be excited about Tanny because Marino was a success.

 

Lol it would be a boyscout-like badge that resembles a wet blanket type shape, apparently.

I would've never imagined this thread go this direction... i've re read the OP and several following posts a few times thinking i'm missing something big..... and i'm not.

interesting

 

We ride thrill rides to be exhilarated and scared. We watch sports for the same reason I believe, its just more passive. We fall in love knowing that person may break our hearts, we get a dog knowing they'll die before us...and we do things like that because it is the whole of our existence, joy and pain and sports are a microcosm of that.

Tanny may be a mirage, but dammit, let's just enjoy the hell out of it until its proven one way or the other, what else you got to do?

 

Can't argue there. The diversity of opinions and open-mindedness here ( whether sober or not ) is usually extremely entertaining at the very least.

Some of the things you all come up with are just epic.



but this is besides the point, ThePhins Hero. You see,
Tannehill is not Henne. So stop calling him that.

 

This is the internet..... and.....That aint chocolate.

 

That same game, Henne looks all world, then for some unknown reason threw two INT's in to double coverage and made very poor reads/throws to kill momentum.

Henne could look great. Then throw 4 consecutive incompletions when we needed to drive 10 additional yards to tie a game late or take the lead.

Outside of the poor INT against the Jets, I have yet to see Ryan make the same mistakes. In fact, he is improving weekly.

 

I don't give a f*** about mirages. I care about what I'm seeing.
Fact: Tannehill had the 2nd highest total in NFL history in yardage for a rookie QB. Not a mirage, a fact.
Fact: Tannehill faced intense pressure and threw for the most yards since 2008 facing that type of pressure.
Fact: Tannehill was changing plays at the line, changing blocking schemes and was delivering nearly perfectly placed balls on ropes to his WR's.

Those are facts, not mirages. Most average QB's NEVER, in their entire playing careers, accomplish what Tanehill accomplished in his 4th week. Maybe he is a mirage, but I just don't see how an average QB can pull that off in 4 weeks with a limited playing career starting as a QB. In fact, his ceiling is so high that these type of gamebreaking performances may become more of the norm than the anomaly once this team further develops.

 

I've always maintained you absolutely cannot compare a quarterback's first year starting with a quarterback in his first year as a pro, and consider them apples to apples. It is totally unfair to the true rookie.

I think you also have a good point that Chad Henne never beat anyone for the job, although it should be noted that prior to Pennington's arrival he had beaten John Beck and Josh McCown for the job, for whatever that's worth.

 

In everyone's defense, at that point in time Jeff Ireland had already stated publicly and in no uncertain terms that Chad Henne is already a successful draft pick. He was talking about players that we still don't know about, still have to learn about, and he said very confidently that he already knows Chad Henne is going to work out and that down the road that's not going to be considered a bust or anything like that. He put him in the same company as Jake Long.

Think of how much a certain segment of this populace still shows faith in Jeff Ireland despite the pattern of non-success and mistakes that we've seen, and project that backward to March of 2010 before Ireland had become so unpopular. I think that statement and the general attitude from the Dolphins that came with it had a LOT to do with that unanimous confidence in Henne.

 

The other difference is Tannyhill has a soul and doesn't need fixing.

[video=youtube;h91iR6eidDw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h91iR6eidDw[/video]

 

I don't know why you quoted my post.

 

With love dude.. Not hostility. What do you think this is, POFO?

 

Yet we all called for Parcell's head on a platter for daring to question the organizations faith in Henne.. Maybe Parcell's was on to something?

Fact is, when you bank on a young QB and fail, it almost gaurantees 3-4 years of failure and future rebuilding.

Ireland is lucky that he was given a 2nd chance. I hope he redeems himself and builds a playoff contender.

 

No worries, I was honestly confused, because I'm a founding member of the Tannehill fan club.

 

The problem with Parcells questioning Henne after bailing was that Parcells supervised the Henne pick. So that called into question Parcells' own ability to evaluate talent. Well, that and the way the team had gotten progressively worse as the Parcells tree planted roots.

 

Which would have given him more of a reason to suck it up and stay silent. He clearly saw something and called it out. Not saying Parcell's didn't have his own selfish reasons to protect his legacy..

Then again, remember what Sparano did in 2010, around game 7? He benched Henne. The organization agreed that Henne was holding the team back but they had no viable plan B. That was their failure. Not grooming a backup that could come in a play, given what they felt Henne was missing as a starter.

Then again, could you blame them? Henne threw for over 300 yards 4 or 5 times in 09 and looked to be the real deal.

 

Nobody who participated in the thread based their appraisals of Henne on Ireland's comments. Henne had just finished his first year as a starter with a 75.2 QB rating. His QB ratings in his last five games that year were 80.2, 79.7, 66.3, 78, and 91.7. He had also essentially self-destructed during very winnable games at Buffalo and Tennessee (3 INTs apiece), which shot the team's hopes for the playoffs.

Nevertheless, it was virtually unanimous after that season that we'd found our franchise QB.

So if we can be that off-the-mark even when someone is playing relatively poorly (albeit his rookie season) for almost an entire season overall, including at its end, how off the mark could we possibly be when someone has only one stellar game under his belt?

Now, if someone can go through and compare Henne and Tannehill with a fine-toothed comb and come up with legitimate differences between them at this point in their careers, and those differences were predictive of long-term success as an NFL QB, that would help obviously.

 

I agree.
Just watching them in college, IMO, Henne was far more impressive at Michigan than Tannehill was at TAMU.

 

Quit raining on the parade. We need more optimism and less pessimsm or however you spell that. I know you are normally not negative all the time but that's the only thing I see coming out of this thread. I know you just want people to be cautious, but there is good reason to be excited.

 

Right, but the things Henne does well don't necessarily translate to today's NFL. He probably would have been starting-caliber 10 years ago. The NFL relies too much on big plays these days, and if you aren't very accurate down the field or mobile, its hard to make those big plays.

 

lol. I have a bad habit of not reading an entire thread.

 

I understand what you're saying. I also understand why you changed your tune after reading what fin D said. lol
The reason I am most excited about Tannehill is not just the outstanding numbers of last game that surpassed Marino's rookie record and was 1 yard shy of the best rookie QB's numbers in NFL history..
The main reason is its the first time we have used a 1st round pick since I was born! I am no kid either. I was born in 83' the year of Marino! So not only have we finally tried to get a QB the right way, but there's early indications that show he is a franchise QB and he isn't a bust! Time will tell, but so far so good!

 

Dude was the best the moment he stepped in the field..and it wasn't close.

 

I don't think Ive ever seen a worse set of variables to deal with for a young qb...the demise was not all his fault., coaching and performance around him was subpar.

 

I agree with you here. He was better coached but also more experienced IIRC.

 

That's because he didn't get it in between the ears IMO.

 

I don't know how many of you guys may remember this, but there was some supposed leaks from inside sources that Parcells wasn't happy with Henne before he split. In fact, he was supposedly disappointed that he didn't develop well in 2009. Quite frankly, he may have saw the writing on the wall and used that as impetus to split.

 

It was the worst possible timing for him to get hurt last year. IMO, had he stayed healthy, he'd have posted stats similar to what Moore did for the rest of the season.

 

I don't know RT's high school record, but Henne started every game for all 4 years of high school, before going to Michigan and starting every game from his Freshman season til he got hurt as a senior and missed a couple. He had better weapons in college IMO. He peaked as a junior then slumped a little as a senior perhaps mostly due to his getting hurt and after missing time, played hurt the rest of the year after he came back. Either an ankle or knee, don't recall for sure.

 

Still in my closet with my Joey porter, Abdul jabber, Brandon Marshall, and Ronnie brown jersey. Don't worry I'm not getting a tanny jersey


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