So who would you like to see replace Jeff Ireland next year?

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  1. Fin D

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    lol, not a single thing you pointed out was in that video. Not a single thing.
     
  2. shouright

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    Later.

    Come back when you can have an intelligent discussion about something that doesn't start so far off the map it can't possibly be supported, without defending it, ironically, with a condescending attitude.
     
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  3. MrClean

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    There is a sleeper candidate to replace him next year. A fellow from Rugby Union named Geoffry Scotland. Don't tell anyone though. This is still info on the down low.
     
  4. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    Thanks dad! But I prefer to have my fap fests with lesbian porn. Nothing like two hot chicks doing a little carpet munching to fire up the old juices. :yes::hi5::party:
     
  5. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    Tannehill gets plenty of upside when he visits Lauren's slot I'll bet. If they weren't meant to be eaten then god would not have made them shaped like tacos.

    Sorry guys, I'm having thoughts of a more randy nature this afternoon. :shifty:
     
  6. Laces Out

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    The interception at 0:18 was a TERRIBLE overthrow, so much so that the WR had full extension and STILL didn't catch the ball! Oh, yeah....the reverse angle shows that Tannehill was staring DAGGERS at the guy he overthrew(erratic throw and locking on)..

    Next series, pass was completed on a great effort from the WR because Tannehill threw low and outside(erratic throwing).

    Next pass thrown, DB just mistimed a pick 6 because Tannehill did such a great job of looking the secondary off(locks on).

    Next pass shown, gets rushed and throws ball that ALMOST didn't make it out of bounds, great throw on the run(erratic throw).

    Next pass is a sack and a fumble against a 4 man rush(holding on too long).

    Last pass they show was a decently thrown ball.

    Let's see, I said that Tannehill throws erratically, locks onto his receivers, and looks to run too quickly, and that video shows 2 of 3. But it isn't relevant to the discussion. How?
     
  7. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'm struggling to understand what this has to do with what he said. Regardless of whether Garrard started this year, Philbin had a huge decision to make on who his QB of the future would be. He along with Ireland decided that Tannehill would be that guy by selecting him #8 overall in the draft. He tied his career in Miami to Tannehill as a QB prospect.

    You just don't like Tannehill and I doubt you will even if he has success. You will find a way to discredit it.
     
  8. djphinfan

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    I had Wilson winning that job over Flynn, who was a player I didnt like and said we shouldn't sign long before it was a real topic, and that Wilson was going to be a star, and that I would if I was running this draft, Wilson would be in my team, but what do I know, Miami sport fan callers know more.

    To the other poster, Tannehill has talent, no reason to diss him at this point, I believe even some of his critics are pleasantly surprised about his progression..when you are as accurate as he is, things can change in a hurry, well see..if he doesn't work out and Wilson does than we can revisit.
     
  9. Laces Out

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    If he has success I will absolutely give him credit. But, I don't think he will have success.

    Are we even sure that Tannehill wasn't a choice that was forced upon Philbin by his bosses(Ross and Ireland)?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...dolphins-nfl-draft-texas-am-qb_n_1457684.html

    Can you show me where Philbin is quoted in that article about picking Tannehill or having a hand in drafting Tannehill?
     
  10. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Yep I love starting all over every 3 /4 years. Well now that you mentioned those 3, I am sure we will see the other haters regurgitating their names.

     
  11. unifiedtheory

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    Make you a deal.

    Since your opinion of Ryan Tannehill is strong and your mind is made up and you want him to bust (in fact, you seem certain of it, which makes me feel I should be asking you lotto numbers so I don't have to work on Tuesday) you can't cheer for him. If he becomes a franchise quarterback you have to ignore him until he retires. If he busts you can stand on your soap box and yell "look at me, I was right about something!!"

    What you CAN'T do is enjoy any success he has in the future. If he leads us to a super Bowl you can't be happy about it, you can't buy gear and you can't rub it in your friends faces.

    I don't see how it's a "fap fest". Most of us see a potential franchise quarterback. Notice I said POTENTIAL. Nothing is a sure thing. There is a difference between having doubts (which I do) and having formed an opinion based on a sample size of appearances in 4 preseason games.

    But hey, I'm just whistling in the dark here since I don't appear to have your al knowing foresight.
     
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  12. unifiedtheory

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    Ladies and gentleman, we have found our quarterback guru!

    Show someone else the same film and they can give a totally different opinion on what they see. You have an agenda. You hate Tannehill, we get it.
     
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  13. 2socks

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    Which is exactly why Ireland will be here for 2 more years. Now, if we are not winning games by then, and Ireland has had a legitimate chance to rebuild this team using "new" players that fit this scheme, then and only then will we see him get walking papers.

     
  14. ToddPhin

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    Ireland was quoted as liking Tannehill a great deal and thinking he was a 1st round talent longgggg before Philbin arrived, so yeah, we're sure.
     
  15. 2socks

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    Maybe its taken the new regime this long to get Ireland up to speed on the personal they need or want. Pretty sure they came in and evaluated what they had first. This is common sense right? New Coach evaluates talent on film and in person and makes decisions on his needs. Most of the decisions for this team won't even be made until somewhere around week 12 or 13. That's when the real work begins. It is the very thing that happened to Vonte Davis and illustrated on Hard Knocks. Philbin analyzed, checked out and decided Vonte was not a develop-able player for the future. What did Ireland and Philbin do? they met discussed it and Ireland promptly traded him. It's the way the system is supposed to work. Not the dictator (Parcells) barking out orders.

     
  16. Laces Out

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    Give me your honest evaluation, or stop with the BS.
     
  17. Laces Out

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    So why are there Rhodes Scholars saying this was Philbin's choice?
     
  18. Laces Out

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    Drop the condescending bull**** and read all my posts ITT. I am more than willing to eat crow if Tannehill is successful, I just don't think he will be and have listed the holes I see in his games. You say agenda, I say having standards.
     
  19. 2socks

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    It Tanny falters Garrard will again start.

     
  20. Ronnie Bass

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    When was Gerrard ever named starter?
     
  21. Laces Out

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    He was named starter but I don't think he was given the job yet, I don't recall coach ever saying Gerrard won the job, I was always under the impression the job was still there to win for all 3 QBs and it wasn't final until they announced Tannehill as the starter.
     
  23. shouright

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    Given his situation as a first-year head coach, and with the other possibilities available to him, Joe Philbin's decision to start Ryan Tannehill as a rookie is such a glaring affirmation of Tannehill's ability that any opinion that Tannehill doesn't have such ability has to represent a belief in one's own superiority over Joe Philbin in evaluating Tannehill.

    There are times when personnel decisions are shaky, and a solid case can be made by an average person on a message board that a different player should be starting, but a first-year coach's choosing to start a rookie QB when there are other options available isn't one of them IMO.

    In that situation you simply yield to the expertise of the coach, or appear grandiose.
     
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  24. Colmax

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    This is an excellent post.

    The Tannehill choice also says something about Matt Moore: always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

    With the tradewinds surrounding Moore's name, and the possibility of actually keeping a Garrard who is has had spine, and now, knee surgeries; I am not sure how much Miami can get for Moore if he is indeed on the block.

    This is actually an interesting scenario for the front office. Do they keep Moore or Garrard? Tannehill is named the starter, so at least that is out of the way. Garrard, who has looked good in practice, but has this untimely injury, probably would have been named the starter going into the season.

    Looking at it from another direction, Garrard's injury actually might have been a good thing. Devlin gets a little more time to show what he has probably giving the staff a little more comfort in keeping him on as the 3rd QB. And someone (namely Moore), becomes expendable. I think had the injury to Garrard had been a little more serious, Moore would have stayed and Garrard might have been released altogether.

    I wonder if Miami has some serious suitors for Moore? If so, who, and for how much?

    I think if Ireland can get a 5th or better, the team comes out a winner.
     
  25. Alex44

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    I can be sure Ross had nothing to do with it. Ireland has repeatedly stated Ross makes none of the football decisions nor does he try to. As for Philbin let me ask you this.

    Do you really believe Philbin at his age would take his only head coaching opportunity here and have no say in who his QB was? Especially when he is considered a strong offensive mind? Also Ireland and Philbin have both stated that while Ireland does have final say, they work together closely.
     
  26. PSG

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  27. LBsFinest

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    lmao, that seat is ON FIRE!

    lotta good candidates out there, Mr. Ross.
     
  28. ToddPhin

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    bumping your own 2 month old thread, huh? :yawn:


    How many hours a day do you not spend plotting to take down the Evil Ireland?
    I bet you've used up all your personal days for this very subject haven't you. :chuckle:
     
  29. Disgustipate

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    Yeah, like who?
     
  30. Fin D

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    They give vacation days in Arkham? Cause there's no way this guy isn't one chemical explosion away from being a Batman villain.
     
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  31. LBsFinest

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    well fresh off him calling that fan an a-hole, I did consider paying someone to accuse Ireland of calling them a racial slur.
     
  32. LBsFinest

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    all the execs I mentioned in this thread.
     
  33. Boik14

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    Marc Ross - NYG
    Eric DeCosta - Balt
    Scott Pioli - KC (Should he come available)
    Ernie Accorsi - Former NYG GM (helping Carolina in their GM search, hired Jerry Reese in NY)
    Omar Kahn - Pitt

    In that order....
     
  34. P h i N s A N i T y

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    No he's not, just because dolphin fans are being dolphin fans, it has nothing to do with the GM's work.... as much as the haters would like to think their whining is making a difference, they can't even make a logical, adult argument against him. Common sense will tell you Ireland was evaluated at the end of last year when the coaching staff was dumped. He was retained. What people are clearly ignoring is the ties Ireland has to Carl Peterson. It is my estimation that Ireland will be here for quite a while, and this is all just more time wasted. The people complaining about Ireland complain about everything else too. They simply dont know enough about what they talking about and are looking to point fingers. Same type of fan that makes a final decision on a player early in his rookie season. They should try building a real argument as to why Ireland isnt cut out to be a GM in this league, instead of embarrassing not only themselves, but the fanbase as a whole with the " he sucks " or " we could have had Matt Ryan #1 overall " junk.

    Haters gunna hate, that's all they do well.
     
  35. slickj101

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  36. Stringer Bell

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    I'm not sure how anyone outside of those organizations could have enough information to make an informed judgement on any of those guys, aside from Pioli and Accorsi. All people are basing these things on are the organizations they come from, and their job titles.
     
  37. Disgustipate

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    But why? What is your rational? Those are guys whose name you've probably heard before associated with a good team?

    Do you have any idea what their contributions to those teams have actually been?

    You can't be serious. Virtually every single aspect you don't like about Jeff Ireland is basically twice as bad with Scott Pioli. He's had nowhere near the success in free agency and the draft, and he makes Jeff Ireland look like Regis Philbin in terms of likability.
     
  38. Den54

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    ^Don't encourage him.
     
  39. ToddPhin

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    :headscratch: Spare me the holy routine; you call Ireland names all the time.
     
  40. HardKoreXXX

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    Ok then, make a rational, logical argument in explaining why Ireland deserves to keep his job.
     

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