***Official 2012 New York Yankees Thread***

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  1. Ray Finkle

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    Very confused, let's just pretend this never happened haha.
     
  2. finyank13

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    My old man said he was in New York the other day and was listening to the FAN, and they said Swisher is looking for Werth money.....








































































    Now batting in right field, number 31, Ichiro Suzuki........
     
  3. Ray Finkle

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    Swisher needs to come back down to reality. Werth isn't even worth Werth money.
     
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  4. BigDogsHunt

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    Yankees acquired OF Steve Pearce from the Astros for cash considerations.



    Pearce, a right-handed hitter, is batting .275/.345/.490 against left-handed pitchers this season. He'll serve as a pinch-hitter and backup outfielder for the Yankees over the final five weeks of the regular season.
     
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  5. finyank13

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    Nice job by Cash here...but wow this shows you nobody is ready in the AAA level for call ups, well that and Andruw Jones is Andruw Jones, this guy brings a little more stability.....Nunez has been miserable this year...
     
  6. finyank13

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    awesome.....
     
  7. BigDogsHunt

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    Yeah, its the time of year you just try to survive and actually get healthy....give him the time off and be ready come playoffs.

    This is like two tankers passing in the night....Alex Rodriguez, who has been sidelined since July 25 with his injury, was given the green light to take BP and ramp up his rehab after getting checked out doctors Monday night. Rodriguez should be able to start ramping up his rehab a bit over the next few weeks and will start to do so Tuesday when he takes batting practice. The original timetable for his return was listed at 4-6 weeks, albeit he is shooting for a return somewhere closer to the four-week mark.

    Just have to minimize other nicks and bruises, etc.
     
  8. finyank13

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    A-Rod has always been a fast healer, and is dedicated I will always say that about him....nooooooow he just needs to hit a few long balls in crunch time :up:
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    There was a report out there that the Dodgers called the Yankees asking about both Teixeira and CC Sabathia. You would have to bet Cashman would love to unload Teixeira if he could, ditto for ARod.
     
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  10. Ray Finkle

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    Because of his cousin, right? PED ALERT! Just kidding.
     
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  11. finyank13

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    hahah u got it first....

    Sherman reported it, LA called and asked for Tex and CC, the Yanks would have thrown in A-Rod too why not....and Cashman said no....I am flabbergasted....

    CC was the Gonzo (which I am fine with) and they could have unloaded Tex and A-Rod, EVEN if they paid A-Rods contract it is still worth it....
     
  12. BigDogsHunt

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    Why???

    The Yankees, correctly, told the Dodgers they had no interest in moving either player despite their contracts (four years and $99MM remain on Sabathia’s deal; four years and $90MM remain on Teixeira’s deal). There are no signs the Dodgers were interested in Alex Rodriguez, Sherman writes.

    No reason to move CC, Tex's D and Bat are exactly what you want out of a corner guy, and AROD wasnt even part of any conversation. Silly nonsense.
     
  13. finyank13

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    That could have been negotiated Christ Crawford was on the operating table when the Dodgers made that deal, the Dodgers made themselves look like fools, believe me it could have been done.....

    Why simple BDH, enjoy this year, after this once you pay Cano 20+ it is over, these contracts are so burdensome it is over as far as flexability....this team right now is the best you are going to see it, every year from here on out will get worse and older because of the contracts and I dont care what the records are....

    The reason this thing didnt go down and the Red Sox did is because what the teams are now...if roles were reversed and the Sox were in 1st and the Yanks were 5 games under, this deal gets done....sucks....
     
  14. BigDogsHunt

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    That's right I forgot about the SALARY CAP the new MLB cba instituted...oh wait.

    And you are right, we will soon have skeletons playing because these were all LIFETIME contracts. classic, you dont care what the record is:lol:

    man, now all I need to know is how Roger Clemons is doing in his spare time. :no:
     
  15. finyank13

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    Seriously what is the plan you think? What can they do after this year? It is either Swish or Grandy not both....nor would I pay Either money to a .230 strikeout machine....
     
  16. BigDogsHunt

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    The plan is to focus on this season and see if they can secure #28.

    After this year, they will do what they have done since 1996, take a look at their roster, take a look at the market, and make smart decisions to adjust and adapt and maintain their singular place as the best run outfit top to bottom in MLB, and not panic.

    Yeah, your analysis of players and this FO will make it into Cashman's hands and he will be fortunate to have such valued input, especially not caring about records.:up:
     
  17. Ray Finkle

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    I wouldn't have traded Sabathia and probably wouldn't have traded either Teixeira or Arod in the middle of the season while the team was in 1st. But if I could unload Teixeira and/or Arod I absolutely would. Both players on the decline already, wrong side of 30 and set to make a lot of money in the coming years. Even though the Yankees seemingly have an unlimited payroll it's still nice to have position and financial flexibility.
     
  18. BigDogsHunt

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    I too am confident all options will be explored in the offseason.

    The strange idea - which is not based on any past facts - is the Yankees are limited in their position or financial flexibility is comical to many. Let the future play out like the past, monitor, adjust, adapt, and still remain relevant. Unlike other franchises, this hasnt been an issue with the organization in the Bronx.

    I think some project "their team" onto the Yanks when its not warranted. No white flags of panic, quitting or surrender, unlike Marlins and Saux:tongue2:. You either are the Big Dog or you are a pretender....its clear what 29 other Franchises aspire to be, its clear with #27 and onward to #28 who has always been.
     
  19. finyank13

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    I can dig 28 I can......

    But you cant discount those contacts arent movable and this was a one shot deal...it isnt panic, it is simply reality bro, they are going to be able to make the right decision because of these contracts....

    It is all fruitless anyways Tex and A-Rod would have been dic$s and not waived anyway......
     
  20. finyank13

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    Tex has said numerous times he wont waive his clause, he doesn't want to go anywhere, A-Rod would go to Miami that's about it....

    In order to get A-Rod to not fulfill his contract, the fans, and the media are really going to make it hell for him that he does not want to be here and he will either retire or waive his clause....

    As well, once he starts to hit the HR milestones (hopefully he wont) they pay him an additional 6M that COUNTS on the salary cap...effing Hank Steinbrenner...
     
  21. BigDogsHunt

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    LOL:lol:
     
  22. finyank13

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    What is funny about it?

    Seriously what GM is taking A-Rod? the full contract, not with the Yankees paying 22M a year of it.....

    Ditto for Tex, who is taking that burden?
     
  23. BigDogsHunt

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    Why do you care? sit back and watch.
     
  24. Ray Finkle

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    Has nothing to do with teams quitting but when you see something that's not working whether it be in Boston, Florida or wherever why, if you're a decision maker, would you simply stand there and do nothing. When things weren't working for the Yankees they didn't just stand around (although they did have numerous failed attempts to make the team better but failed from 2004 to 2008), they fired their manager and signed a bunch of guys to big contracts and won a WS. It's not like every team or every franchise, even the mighty Yankees are always good or always winning championships. Sometimes things don't work out according to plan and you need to change things up. Nothing wrong with that.

    As for thinking the other 29 teams aspire to be the Yankees, please you sound like a YES commercial or something John Sterling or Michael Kay would say on air to try and get their contract renewed.

    I do think the Gonzalez/Beckett/Crawford trade was close to a 1 shot deal. I mean it is possible another GM would do something stupid like take Vernon Wells' contract off a teams hand but to take 3 bad contracts in 1 deal and give prospects is unheard of, I mean it's never happened in baseball history where a team took on all that money.

    I do think if the Yankees wanted to move Teixeira they would find a taker for him if they were to pay some of the remaining salary. I think Arod is almost unmovable due to his age, durability and contract though. And yes they could move CC if they wanted.

    That's the price you pay when you give players no trade clauses though. If they don't want to leave they have the right to stay. Blame the team not the players.
     
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  25. finyank13

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    because it is a fan forum and this is where you talk about?
     
  26. BigDogsHunt

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    Marlins and Saux clearly quit on the season and surrendered before it was over. Nothing to debate there. Perhaps your franchise will regroup and return, but if its not for another 86+ I would not be shocked at all. And any fan of a franchise not thinking their franchise would aspire to position themselves each year, and run themselves like the Yanks are kidding themselves. Of course they would. That's why they are spoken about in such historical and lofty tones....you should avert your eyes, but we allow the lesser class to gaze upon us, its our humility, really.:pointlol:
     
  27. finyank13

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    :lol: good ole BDH soundbite.....hahahah I didnt even see that partly because anytime I see ranting about 28 I lose interest....
     
  28. BigDogsHunt

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  29. finyank13

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    they won in 2007, so 5?
     
  30. BigDogsHunt

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    You hop on and off more than a SF streetcar. Come on their has to be important Clemons news....:lol:
     
  31. finyank13

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    change the channel then...

    that's the joy of living in America....
     
  32. BigDogsHunt

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    Seriously an you call yourself a Red Sox fan.:pity:

    how do you do math?? whether from 1918 to 2004 (86) or 2004 to 2007 (3), 85 or 5 is not the answer. Red Sox fans:knucks:
     
  33. BigDogsHunt

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    Educating those less fortunate is called a Public Service, its an American tradition. So many folks to help, but alas.:wink2:
     
  34. finyank13

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    No but talking about winning another one is unimportant....it is always the goal...

    And I dont flip flop, I have always been consistent in my feelings towards everybody on the team....doesnt mean I dont root for them while they are here...hey maybe they will surprise me for once.....
     
  35. finyank13

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    that was good...typical but good...
     
  36. BigDogsHunt

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    :omg:what is Cashman to do? :headwall:all these contracts, and only 27 World Series titles to show for it. :praying:doomed, doomed....I cant comprehend what a GM is to do? :pray: .We just strike out...no ace.....good pitching beats good hitting in playoffs.:words:
     
  37. finyank13

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    I am saying 5 and counting....from last to present, because when they talked about 86 years and counting last it was from last to present....it just so happened to stop at 86

    so yeah 5....
     
  38. BigDogsHunt

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    :pity:...engrish be so tricky....
    just so happened...:lol::sidelol:
     
  39. Ray Finkle

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    The Sox are 12.5 games out of 1st place and 9 games out of a spot in wild card, having to jump over 6 other teams. The Marlins are 20(!!!) games out of 1st place and 13.5 games out of a wild card spot with 9 teams ahead of them. Do you really want to knock a team for trading some of it's players to try and make their team better in the future?

    I mean honestly here, do you really think either the Sox or Marlins had a REAL shot at making the playoffs? Let's be realistic here. I don't see how you or anyone can knock teams who aren't going to make the playoffs trade some players to try and make their next year's team or the future of their franchise better. Give me a break. You knocking either team is insane to me. What would you have liked them to do? Keep the same team year in and year out because shipping off players is "giving up"? I'd much rather have my name who has zero chance to make the playoffs give up on the season and trade players to make their team possibly better for the next year then sit and do nothing.

    Sorry but your Yankee bias is truly showing here that you would knock teams for "giving up" on lost seasons.

    And I'm sure fans of the Texas Rangers, Tampa Bay Rays or St. Louis Cardinals, just to name 3, really wish their team ran themselves like the Yankees do. Championships and history aside, the Yankees aren't the best run franchise in baseball. Sorry to break it to you.

    And things in baseball can change quickly....

    It's incredibly silly to bring that up in an argument. What does that have to do with anything? We're not even arguing championships, just moves here and there. It's almost saying "hey I'm wrong or I don't really have a point to what I'm saying but hey the Yankees won a WS 27 times so HA".
     
  40. finyank13

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    someone is mad, and didn't take their medicine today....
     

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