[Merged] Breaking News: Ryan Tannehill Named Starting QB

Plus its a listing of Starting QBs since Marino.....its not a bust list aside from the fact that all didnt last and work out, but its not a BUST list, its just a fact of who has started....thus Tannehill has to be on that list at somepoint, and it looks like Game 1 this year.

 

Obviously you have no idea what my dreams are. The fact is that I have seen the Dolphins finish 128-128 over the last 16 seasons. This is what you call the true definition of mediocrity. All I want from Ross, Ireland, and the organization as a whole, is a team capable of making the Super Bowl. I realize Ross was not the owner for most of these years, but the team has declined each year since he took over majority ownership.

If you are satisfied with mediocrity, great. As for feeling sorry for me,please don't. I have a great life. I get to play golf every day and I have traveled to every state in the United States and many foreign countries. I am fortunate to have plenty of money to last me several life times and I have a great wife, daughter, and two wonderful grandsons. I wake up every day thankful for the gifts I have received during my life.

I guess I complain about the Dolphins because I can honestly state that there is nothing else in my life that I am unhappy with. The Dolphins have been part of my life for the last 46 years and I guess I just expect more from this organization then they have given the fans over the last decade and a half. No matter how many wins or losses the Dolphins have this year, I will still continue to love my life. So I am sorry if my negative comments bother you, but when the only thing bad in your life is the football team you follow, you sometimes dwell on that negative. I will assure you that I don't sit around and get an ulcer because of the Dolphins. I merely get on here, express my comments to rid the frustration and once I sign off, I usually go read a good book. If I sign on early in the morning, once I sign off, I do some exercises and go to the golf course for my 7:00 am tee off time.

Everyday I feel bad for all those individuals stuck in traffic on the way to work, while I am enjoying the freedom of retirement and another day on the golf course. So please, don't feel bad for me, because I certainly don't need or deserve your pity.

 

I said as it pertains to the NFL. That movie had nothing to do with the NFL.

As for how George Allen's son defined the term does not necessarily mean how the old man defined it. He traded away the future, as in draft picks, to get proven veterans to help him win now. The old man Allen was very much against playing rookies in most cases.

Was I coming at you? How dare I do such a terrible thing?

BTW, You ain't Jules Winnfield and my name ain't Brett.

 

IMO this news is partly an indication that Garrard is not coming back soon (if at all). It was obvious that Moore was a bad fit for this offense. I hoped he could adjust, but he couldn't. I believe the coaching staff wanted Garrard to start and for RT to sit and learn behind him. The injury to Garrard made RT starting the only possible choice left. Now RT has played well and showed a ton of promise. I don't agree that RG3 is a better prospect. I put RT in the same class as RG3 (both behind Luck, but they've been more impressive than Weedon or R. Wilson). RT would have been best served to sit and learn, but this is really our only option. And it's not about mental toughness. It's about learning how to handle situations. If you learn from watching a veteran first (and adapting it to your abilities) it's often faster and better than having to figure it out on the fly. You sometimes end up with poor habits that you have to unlearn (if you can). That can take longer in the long run than if you had just sat and watched first. This is where the coaching staff will be key. They have to try and mitigate those bad learning experiences that come from starting too soon. My read is that RT has the right personality to embrace learning a new way even if he had marginal success when he winged it on the fly.

 

At this point IMO you design your entire season around getting Tannehill the proper learning experience. And that involves playing defense a certain way, playing offense a certain way, and making Tannehill's development a priority over winning.

 

Even though it was a minor procedure, that combined with his back surgery, would make me feel a little nervous about going all in on him as our only veteran backup. IMO, we should either keep just Moore and Devlin, or keep both Moore and Garrard, and try to place Devlin on the PS again. I'd feel a little uncomfortable with just Garrard and Devlin. Heck, Garrard tore cartilage loose just slightly twisting while watching his kid in the pool.
IMO, I'd want to keep the most talented players that could help us win now if need be. That would be the veteran QBs filling out the depth chart.

 

I have no idea how this is similar to , "suck for Luck". I stated that I want him to be the next Marino and that I hope he is the long range solution at the QB position for the Dolphins. My whole premise was that Barkley would be an option only if Tannehill does not turn out to be the answer, based on the evaluation of coaches and the GM after this coming season.

I certainly don't expect the Dolphins to draft Barkley because they just used a high first round draft pick on Tannehill. I just happen to think that Barkley is going to be an outstanding NFL QB and if the Dolphins end up with a top 2 or 3 pick in next years draft, I would hope they would consider Barkley. That is merely my opinion and I certainly don't expect this opinion to be shared by the majority of the posters on this forum.

 

From just watching two preseason games I sure don't see this as a finality.

 

Right. They're gonna give Tannehill just 1 year to prove himself.

 

I just hope we are an exciting, fun to watch offense for once. This team has been boring the last few years. I don't care if we win this year, I just want to see Tannehill air it out like Stafford did.

 

I stand corrected. I just couldn't wrap my brain around why someone that seems to despise every aspect of an organization would waste their time with it. I never considered your situation. Good for you and your family.

One season at a time.

 

I like Matt Moore. Hope Tanne can show him up.

 

Schefter claims that, but here is the box score from game 1 of Griese's rookie season. He played extensively while John Stofa attempted 2 passes. I cannot find the starting lineups for the game, but just looking at the stats, even if Stofa started and played one series, that is seriously nitpicking to say what Griese did was any less impressive than what Thill is about to do.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/196709170mia.htm

 

Lord of the Rings? Who wastes their time watching garbage like that? I do see not one single thing wrong with her hands or anything else. You have something better looking sharing your bed every night?

 

Too funny. It figures you would be the guy to find something like this.

 

I think she's not attractive at all. I honestly think she looks like Ren from Ren & Stimpy. i'm sorry, I just do.

The chicks in your sig are smoking hot though.

 

After watching two preseason games and watching him play last season I think it is a finality for the coaches. All systems basically have the same plays, but what differentiates them is which types of plays they use as their bread and butter. This system focuses on quick decision plays with consistent accuracy and on the QB being able to throw on the move. Moore struggles with those kinds of plays. He's best when he doesn't have to rush his throws and can be set in the pocket. IMO RT is still not getting his passes out quick enough, but he's close and there's reason to believe he can continue to improve. Moore is about a beat slower than RT (at getting his passes out) even though he should be reading defenses far quicker by now. When he tries to throw on the move Moore's accuracy and consistency drop significantly. That was obvious from last season and not much has changed this preseason. My guess is that the coaches saw this and reached a similar conclusion.

 

I'm stoked to see what Tannehill can do...I am terrified the right side of the line may get him killed.

 

Rafael what has been your impression of Tannehill on the grounds of your major deciding factor for a QB, i.e., how they play when a play breaks down?

 

That's a strength of his. Which is good b/c I expect that there will be a ton of break downs this year.

 

like that's any different with Garrard or Moore at QB.

 

exactly. You'd think people would have learned their lessons on this board about pinning their hopes on a beat up veteran coming off major surgery. Chad P gave us a great year, but then posters hoped and prayed for two more years that his glass body could continue to play. If Garrard is our starter, there's a very good chance he only plays part of the season. And if Garrard gets cut, he won't be starting anywhere else, which says a lot IMO.

 

A while back, someone posted the totals for number passes deflected at the LOS in 2011, for all the QB in this past draft, and Tanny's total was far higher than any of the others. Also, there was a lot of discussion before the draft about the high number of passes he had dropped last season, again far more than any of the other recently drafted QBs. To what do you attribute his being so prone to getting passes deflected at the LOS, which we also saw again in the Carolina game, and the high number of his passes that were dropped last season?

 

Haven't read the whole thread, but I just can't understand why people would be upset about this. John Beck starting was a mistake made by a terrible head coach to try and salvage a terrible season. This decision has been made before the start of the regular season by who we hope is a competent head coach. Two completely different scenarios.

 

I wonder whether the larger number of batted passes has to do with a larger number of three step drops?

 

I dunno not a huge fan of him playing week one. I wanted him to at least come in by week 6-7 so the team is more comfortable with the system before he gets thrown into the fire with an offensive line with new blocking schemes.

 

Not convinced yet. What are the odds that he will be a franchise qb? Probably could "become a decent backup in the league," maybe.

 

This is great news in my opinion. This is how it is done and aside from being familiar with Sherman already, Tannehill has been the best QB in preseason. Matt Moore has really fell flat on his face early on. Maybe he's the one that needs more time to get comfortable with the system.

 

Mrs. Moore, is that you?

 

It does according to Mike Sherman.

 

Good chance to debate if he should start or if it could damage him.

 

I look at it like this....he is ahead of all rookies in this situation, because he knows the offense. Where it could hurt kids is when they are trying to learn an offense AND how to read nfl defenses at the same time. It could hurt their confidence and scar them for their career. Tannehill has the chance to know the offense, and all he has to worry about is learning the speed of the game and get better reading defenses. That comes with nothing but experience. You can't read it in a book, or watch it on a tv, you get better by being in the fire, and learning, seeing, reacting. He can ONLY do that while playing. So play him we should, it will help him in the long run imo.

 

My guess is that he just doesn't do a good job of finding the lanes. It wouldn't surprise me if that was just one of those things that will always be a problem for him. I don't think it will be a huge problem. It may just mean 10-12 more incompletions in a season and/or maybe even 1 more pick a year.

 

I would actually like to see them do a fake off of this where Tannehill takes a three-step drop, appears to set up to pass, and then rolls out and extends the play. I suspect the defensive line and defensive backs are coached to watch the QB's drop and adjust their play based on it. They need to be kept guessing on that.

 

IMO he could go to Philly and play when...yes, when Vick goes down.

 

Guess what?

 

He had 3-4 passes batted down in one half vs Carolina. That better improve or it is going to be darned site more extra incompletions than 10-12 and more than just 1 extra pick.

 

The way Nick Foles has been looking in preseason, Philly doesn't need to trade for another backup QB.