2012 MLB Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Fin-Omenal, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Trout has 30 SB's in 60+ games so far this year....

    Mantle highest number is 21 in any year.....

    yeah yeah I know it might mean Trout can reading a pitcher better....hahah just stop save it....
     
  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Ah, that proves it! :hi5:

    P.S. I have never taken a side in this debate in your head!
     
  3. finyank13

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    Obviously Mantle is the better ball player I am not debating that....
     
  4. BigDogsHunt

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    I am not sure WHO you are even debating with! :lol:
     
  5. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Mantle could of stolen a hell of a lot more then that. I remember hearing about Mantle saying if he thought 40/40 club would of been such a big deal, he would of done it every year.

    Wasnt around to watch him play, but you cant judge speed off SBs.
     
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  6. finyank13

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    not denying he couldn't...Trout is on pace to steal 60 bags this year, and he missed all of April...
     
  7. finyank13

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    I hear voices!!!!!! dude the heat will do that....
     
  8. BigDogsHunt

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    Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery takes place today, when small-market and low-revenue teams will have the chance to win extra selections in next year’s amateur draft. The ten smallest-market teams and ten lowest-revenue teams will have the chance to win extra selections in 2013, Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com reports. There’s overlap between small-market teams and low-revenue teams, so there are 13 clubs involved in the first-round lottery: the Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals.

    The first six selections will be made between the first and second rounds of next year’s draft. A second group of six picks will be available to the teams from the first group that didn’t get an early pick, plus the Tigers. The second group of selections will be made after the second round of the draft.

    MLB teams can trade the draft picks they obtain in the Competitive Balance Lottery. The picks, which can only be traded once, cannot be sold or traded during the offseason. In theory, the draft picks could be involved in some of this summer’s deadline deals.

    The lottery takes place today at 12:30pm CDT/1:30pm EDT in New York and the winners will be announced 75 minutes later. A team’s chances of winning depend on its winning percentage from the previous season.
     
  9. finyank13

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    ^^That.is.crap.

    How are the Marlins a small market team, they just opened a brand new ballpark!!
     
  10. Mainge

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    I'm sure it's based on last year.

    And we are a small market team.
     
  11. BigDogsHunt

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    May be a case of low revenue too? (Opening a new Stadium does not change the size of the market)

    I am more surprised the Twins are not listed (or the Nats), and the fact that the STL Cards are listed. The cut off must have been very close for these 10 small market, and 10 low revenue to come up with the 13 this year.
     
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  12. Ray Finkle

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    Washington isn't a small market team.
     
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  13. finyank13

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    Either is Miami, just because their owner doesn't spend and they did the smart thing by getting a 38K stadium and not a 50K Stadium doesnt mean that market is small...

    Oakland is small...
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Owner doesn't spend? Where you under a rock last off season?
     
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  15. finyank13

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    Right I stand corrected bro....

    My point exactly however.......small market teams dont do that, AND they made an offer to Pull-hos to remember?
     
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  16. BigDogsHunt

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    Is Balt? They split the market. Or is it rev for O's to be included?

    Again, Twins were a hair's-breath from contraction. Just amazed who is and isn't in the 13.
     
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  17. Ray Finkle

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    I believe the O's are considered a big market team as well.

    In determining big vs. small markets they generally look at the size and population of the city/fan base. They don't factor in if a team like Baltimore or Washington or both Chicagos/NY teams split markets or not.
     
  18. BigDogsHunt

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    And since O's are included but Nats excluded, it must come down to revenue this go round. Again, the cut off must have been close from rev side for some of these.
     
  19. finyank13

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    TB didn't get anything by way of picks, and they don't draw.....

    BDH is there a good site to go to see attendance? I would be interested to see who draws more the O's or TB...
     
  20. Nappy Roots

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  21. finyank13

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    thanks Nappy...

    soo they arent going on revenue then....even in 2011, they outdrew them by 4-5K.....it reeks of the NBA type of draft slots with the mystery around it...

    either team have a cable network.....?

    This is just a freaking handout, that's all....they say "ahhhh even though TB makes less revenue than most teams, they are better, and dont need the picks"

    flawed system...
     
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  22. Nappy Roots

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    Well its flawed obviously. TB was in it, but only 12 of 14 got picks. TB and STL was not picked. The balls are weighted based on last years record....

    My question is, why the f is Detroit, Milwaukee, and ESPECIALLY STL even in this? Those 3 are in the top 11 in attendance in baseball the past 2 years. Completely flawed system.

    Edit: here's a little article on this great system... http://minors.mlblogs.com/2012/07/18/how-the-competitive-balance-lottery-will-work/
     
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  23. Nappy Roots

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    Tweet from Jason Stark

    Right there with you Jason. Great job MLB!!
     
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  24. BigDogsHunt

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    TRADES ARE STARTING

    LOL:lol:, why didnt the GMs or Owners just swap teams completely?

    Executive summary: Toronto fortified its major-league pitching staff, while Houston added some mid-grade prospects to the fold.

    Here's who's going to the Jays by way of the Astros: RHP Brandon Lyon, LHP J.A. Happ and RHP David Carpenter.

    And here's who's going to Houston: RHP Francisco Cordero,OF Ben Francisco, RHP Joe Musgrove, RHP Asher Wojciechowski, LHP David Rollins, C Carlos Perez, and a player to be named later.
     
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  25. BigDogsHunt

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    The Rockies and Royals have agreed to a trade that will send left-hander Jonathan Sanchez to Colorado for right-hander Jeremy Guthrie, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter).

    and....

    The Cubs have acquired Justin Germano from the Red Sox in exchange for cash considerations, according to a team press release.

    and...

    The Mets traded utility infielder Omar Quintanilla to the Orioles on Friday in exchange for future considerations.
     
  26. finyank13

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    So Greinke is a 20M+ pitcher now too? :pity: I pity the team that signs him for that price tag...

     
  27. BigDogsHunt

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  28. King Felix

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    it's sad how ackley, montero, smoak (and possibly carp) have not developed at all this year. there is something seriously wrong with the hitting coaches in seattle.
     
  29. BigDogsHunt

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    Padres outfielder Carlos Quentin — who had been drawing trade interest from a number of teams — agreed to a three-year, $27 million contract extension on Sunday morning with San Diego
     
  30. BigDogsHunt

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    Here are the CBA - Competitive Balance Lottery pick results, via MLB.com:

    Selections Between First & Second Rounds (Round A)


    1. Royals
    2. Pirates
    3. Diamondbacks
    4. Orioles
    5. Reds
    6. Marlins

    Selections After Second Round (Round B)


    1. Padres
    2. Indians
    3. Rockies
    4. Athletics
    5. Brewers
    6. Tigers

    The Rays and Cardinals did not receive a pick in either of the Competitive Balance Lottery Rounds.
     
  31. CashInFist

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    Pirates are winning the World Series...
     
  32. Nappy Roots

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    Lol. I wouldn't be against it.
     
  33. muscle979

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    You must enjoy disappointment.
     
  34. Anonymous

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    If it wasn't for him, I would be happy for Pittsburgh. I love under dog stories.

    Not in this case, though. I want to see an epic collapse.
     
  35. finyank13

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    wait a minute folks...wait just a minute!!!!

     
  36. BigDogsHunt

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    mehhhh......its not finalized thats why he can tweet that - he has trade approval final say. Nothing to see here....its a done deal by FOs.

    Yes, he has earned his 10/5 rights, but why would Dempster not accept this trade??? Does he think a better situation awaits him? I dont know what will become of this, but not sure what Dempster is thinking if he declines to agree to this.


    Happy, helps my fantasy squad with T. Hudson, and B. Sheets already in the mix, now I get Dempster switching to better park and O help (although felt Dodgers were best of all worlds with NL West, etc).....plus have had McCann, Freeman, and Bourn all season...dang lotta Wahoos!
     
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  37. finyank13

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    Crazy to think he has 10-5 rights.....not many people have that anymore....
     
  38. BigDogsHunt

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    ??? lots more than you would think.

    Ichiro was a 10/5 and had to approval his trade to Yanks, etc.
     
  39. finyank13

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  40. BigDogsHunt

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    small deal:

    The Angels announced that they acquired right-handed pitcher Barry Enright from the Diamondbacks in exchange for a player to be named or cash considerations.
     
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