***Official 2012 New York Yankees Thread***

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  1. finyank13

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    Interesting.....

    So Fink if the Yankees came calling would you GM them?
     
  2. Ray Finkle

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    First one that gets hired has to hire the other as Assistant GM, deal?

    In a heartbeat. You'd have to be a fool to turn down a GM position just because you grew up rooting for a rival team.
     
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  3. finyank13

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    You know that would entail you having to stop coming on here right!!!??
     
  4. Mainge

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    Done.

    Agreed on the second point as well. It's a win-win situation. Either you succeed and you're awesome, or you fail, and right before you're about to get fired, you trade away NY's young stars for as many terrible contracts as possible. You're a hero to some fanbase either way.
     
  5. Mainge

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    Says who? How do we know he's not Brian Cashman?

    I've never seen them both in the same room.
     
  6. finyank13

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    :lol: In a weird sort of ironic way I can actually picture Fink looking like Cashman somewhat.....
     
  7. Ray Finkle

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    Wow here few posts are too good not to pass up.

    I absolutely would not stop coming here to post. In fact I would troll these boards even more so. Make myself look like a genius with some of my predictions, and say I have inside knowledge that Swisher or Teixeira are going to get traded just to mess with your head FinYank.

    I'd probably use Twitter a lot more too. I'd want to be known as the Logan Morrison of Baseball GMs.

    Exactly. Hal and Hank are close to pushing me out huh? How about I trade Robinson Cano for Vernon Wells. Manny Banelous for Zito. Sign Nate McLouth to a 5 year deal. Trade Curtis Granderson for Carl Pavano. Trade for Melky Cabrera to make FinYank happy. Trade Hughes and Nova for Jeff Karstens and AJ Burnett. Just take on John Lackey's contract for nothing in return, then extend him. Go to Japan and bring back Kei Igawa. Trade for Ryan Howard and put him in CF. Stuff like that.

    This is completely true. No one has ever seen me in the same room as Brian Cashman. Too bad I can't say the same for some other front office people or owner(s) though..... But I won't confirm nor deny that I am not in fact not Brian Cashman.

    Thankfully I look nothing like Cashman. However if there's ever a movie based on a book I didn't write about myself I'd love for Brad Pitt to play me, or The Rock (I love The Rock).
     
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  8. BigDogsHunt

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    If I was GM of the Red Sox, I wouldnt change a thing! :shifty::tongue2:


    ...I would extend Bobby V to a 50year contract however to ensure the results remain as is!
     
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  9. Ray Finkle

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    Well played.
     
  10. BigDogsHunt

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  11. finyank13

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    Logan Morrison is a funny bastard on Twitter...
     
  12. Mainge

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    You mean annoying?

    His act got old very quickly.
     
  13. finyank13

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    Well I havent been on Twitter much since NFL free agency, but he was funny then...calling out people....
     
  14. Finfangirl

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    Off to the game Fella's... One question, is it wrong to wear my Yankee Reggie Jackson jersey to the A's stadium....lol I love reminding A's fans who Mr. October became Mr. October with. Go Yankees!
     
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  15. finyank13

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    nice have a great time FFG!!!
     
  16. finyank13

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    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  17. BigDogsHunt

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    Tex with 2HR...one to oppo gap...just saying...a big F.U. to K. Long's approach maybe..just maybe.
     
  18. Finfangirl

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    You should have seen him hitting to the opposite field in BP..straight up bombs!
     
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  19. BigDogsHunt

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    The Yankees are next in the 2013 Contract Issues series:

    Eligible For Free Agency (10)


    • Mariano Rivera - Though he's not expected to pitch again in 2012, Rivera says he plans to return in 2013. It's safe to assume he's not signing with another team.
    • Nick Swisher - Swisher, 32 in November, will hit free agency for the first time in his career. The Yankees figure to have interest and could extend a qualifying offer. But other teams will be willing to offer long-term deals, so there's no guarantee Swisher returns to the Bronx.
    • Hiroki Kuroda - The Yankees seem to be in the market for starting pitching every offseason. The 37-year-old is probably in line for another one-year deal if he decides to continue pitching.
    • Russell Martin - Martin appears to have turned down a three-year, $21MM deal this past spring, before long-term deals for Yadier Molina (five years, $75MM) and Miguel Montero (five years, $60MM) re-set the market for catchers. Martin's off to a slow start at the plate, but a multiyear deal with an average annual value of $10MM-plus remains within reach.
    • Freddy Garcia - Garcia is headed for a one-year or minor league deal next offseason.
    • Andy Pettitte - Three starts into Pettitte's 2012 season it's hard to question his effectiveness. There's another unknown to consider, however: does the left-hander want to keep pitching?
    • Andruw Jones - Jones continues to add value as a corner outfielder and source of right-handed power off of the bench. It wouldn't be surprising to see him return to New York in 2013.
    • Raul Ibanez - The 39-year-old has nine home runs in just 139 plate appearances. He's positioning himself for another starting job in 2013.
    • Eric Chavez - The Yankees front office deserves credit for bringing Chavez to New York. He has a .271/.318/.396 batting line in pinstripes and, health permitting, could re-sign as a backup infielder next offseason.
    • Dewayne Wise - Few players on the Yankees' roster have less job security than Wise.

    Contract Options (5)


    • Robinson Cano: $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The Yankees will exercise this option. It's hard not to wonder if they'll break from team policy and discuss an extension with the star second baseman.
    • Rafael Soriano: $14MM player option. Soriano can opt out and take $1.5MM buyout after the season. If Soriano finishes the season with a gaudy save total and a sparkling ERA, he could opt out and test free agency. But the market for elite free agent closers can dry up unexpectedly, as fellow-Scott Boras client Ryan Madson found out this past winter. The safer bet would be staying put and accepting the $14MM salary.
    • Curtis Granderson: $13MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The Yankees will exercise the option. As with Cano, the extension question persists.
    • Pedro Feliciano: $4.5MM club option. The Yankees will decline this option, which means they won't get a single pitch for their investment in Feliciano.
    • David Aardsma: club option based on 2012 performance bonuses. The Yankees' decision will depend on Aardsma's recovery from Tommy John surgery and his performance upon returning to action midseason.

    Arbitration Eligible (9)


    Hughes is in line for a raise from $3.2MM, while Gardner's extended stint on the disabled list will reduce his bargaining power in arbitration. Nix could be non-tendered and if the Yankees aren't optimistic about Chamberlain's right ankle injury, they could release him as well. Pena and Cervelli are playing at Triple-A and won't necessarily accrue enough service time to qualify next offseason.

    2013 Payroll Obligation

    The Yankees have already committed more than $119MM to next year's payroll, according to Cot's Baseball Contracts. That's exceptional for most franchises, but the Yankees have spent more than $200MM on their team in each of the past five seasons. Expect GM Brian Cashman to look for ways to reduce payroll, as the team aims to slip under the $189MM luxury tax threshold for 2014.
     
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  20. BigDogsHunt

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    I personally think both of the Killer B's (Betances and Banuelos) will be up taking the place of Kuroda and Pettitte in the rotation, but will see.

    A rotation of CC, Nova, Banuelos, Hughes, Betances wouldnt shock me.
     
  21. Nappy Roots

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    Cracks me up where it says the Yankees deserve credit for bringing in a guy that has out put a 700 OPS....
     
  22. BigDogsHunt

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    Who Chavis??? no brainer really, and once again D. gets discredited as if it doesnt equate to run "prevention".
     
  23. Nappy Roots

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    Yea no brainer that a team with unlimited money deserves credit for signing Chavez who was 0.2 in WAR last year. And -0.1 this year. So basically he simply a...wait for it...replacement player.

    Excellent job Yankees! Heres a pat on the back for ya!!
     
  24. BigDogsHunt

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    perception has never been reality regardless how many tantrums want or need to be throne!!!!
     
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  25. adamprez2003

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    you're on food stamps arent you?
     
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  26. Desides

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    If Ya Smell: The Biography of Ray Finkle

    I like it, if only because at least one person will buy a ticket hoping to see a movie about a Miami Dolphins kicker.
     
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  27. Nappy Roots

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    Doesn't change reality that Chavez is a replacement level player and Yankees deserve no credit what so ever
     
  28. BigDogsHunt

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    :pity:
     
  29. Mainge

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    I mean, he's right.
     
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  30. Ray Finkle

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    Oh I hope so. I mean Betances has only put 84 guys on base via hit (42) or walk (42) in 46.2 innings this year. Imagine how many guys he'd give up hits or walks to in the AL east. And Banuelos has been shut down yet again (which now makes it 5 years in a row where he's had to go on the DL at least once) and is headed back down to Tampa, and his numbers in Triple A haven't been great either (granted he is young for the league).

    It's one thing to be excited for prospects but it's another thing to be realistic about them (remember it was only a year ago when there was a 3rd "Killer B" and he ended up getting released by the Yankees in the off season because he was a walk machine). Banuelos probably isn't going to help the team much this year, if at all, and Betances is probably a future RPer and the way he's pitching now he probably wouldn't even get a September call up.

    EDIT: You might be talking about next year and again I'd have zero faith in Betances being able to be a SP, especially in the AL East with the way he's pitching (just way too many base runners) and I'd like to see Banuelos stay healthy for a full year first before I'd feel comfortable giving him a rotation spot.
     
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  31. finyank13

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    It might be the route they go though, payroll payroll....unless Kuroda and Pet come back for cheap money which I dont see...
     
  32. BigDogsHunt

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    Totally next year, yes, agree this year has been a downer, but next year from a Baseball standpoint is a long way away....both need to turn it around, and turn it up a notch.

    Young arms rise and fall...but we wont know what they have from MLB rotation talent till we give it ago....they have to earn it of course. Will see.
     
  33. Ray Finkle

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    I understand them wanting to low their payroll however you can't put a young kid in the rotation that so far in Triple A has walked 42 guys and given up 42 hits in less than 50 innings pitched. He's putting 2 guys on base each inning in Triple A. You can't have a pitcher do that in any league (especially the big leagues or the AL East) and expect him to be successful. He'd be a disaster. Now that's not to say Betances is a bust, the positive is he is striking guys out, he has 42 K's in those 46 innings, although it is strange that he's also pretty hittable too. It just leads me to believe (as well as many scouts at BA and BP) that he's going to be a pen arm because he's not very athletic and has trouble repeating his delivery over the course of the game (hence the high amount of walks).

    Banuelos is a different animal though, while his Triple A numbers aren't great he still is young for the league. His problem is his health. Him never being healthy for a full year sign he signed is a big red flag. For the Yankees to count on him for 30 starts would be foolish (and realistically the way young pitchers are brought up he wouldn't make 30 starts anyway).

    So if the Yankees are truly looking to save money, you're probably looking at signing a few Jason Marquis/Freddy Garcia types during the off season because I'd be shocked if the Yankees would open the year with either Betances or Banuelos in the rotation to start the year. And even so, it would be smart for the Yankees to still sign a few SPers as insurance.

    Very true, I think the Yankees were hoping both would help for this year but based on what's been going on with both, it seems like a long shot. I think both would have to have big finishes (especially Betances) to even be considered for a rotation spot next year though. And I think the Yankees will remain conservative with Banuelos due to his injury history.
     
  34. BigDogsHunt

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    For anyone interested, here's an old look at the ORIGINAL Yankee stadium (colorized too) from 1939 WS (Yanks vs. Reds). Short porch in RF is prevelant, but so are the DEEP alleys, and DEEPEST CF. Wow.:up:
    [video=youtube;jMm_GeM4Hhk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMm_GeM4Hhk&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
     
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  35. finyank13

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    Amazing stuff BDH....that landscape in RC to Centerfield hasnt changed one bit....all those high-raisers and still has that big Courthouse/Jail to this day....

    to think to just 2 years from WWII....
     
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  36. finyank13

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    Aww man if this goes down Theo is going to rape the Yanks.....
     
  37. finyank13

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    this is actually smart.....play the guy, hopefully he racks up some saves, and a nice glossy ERA....then Sori gets a big head, thinking he can get another big multiple year pay-day out of it, opts out of the contract instead of exercising his player option and viola!!!! Terrible contract gone....
     
  38. Ray Finkle

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    Wishful but possible thinking.... although you have to wonder if Heath Bell might have finally given some GMs a hard wake up call for signing those RPs to big deals. Although to be honest, if Soriano pitches well this year and stays healthy, bringing him back for the 3rd year and final year of his contract wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for the Yankees. I'm sure they could easily trade him to another team if Soriano doesn't opt out. I could see a team taking a shot with him as a closer for 1 year at his salary or the Yankees might even help pay some of it.
     
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  39. Nappy Roots

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    I would say there is zero chance Soriano opts out, but I have been wrong about similar options before. But I highly, highly doubt any agent or adviser is dumb enough to tell him to opt out of that contract. Yankees are stuck with it......

    They can afford it...
     
  40. Nappy Roots

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    Haha. Yes if you want to put it that way....but the Rays are on food stamps and still eat better then the Yankees and Sox. lol.
     
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