*The Official 2011-12 NBA Thread*

I agree about the dunk but I disagree on him bring overrated. I think he's great.

 

Of course.......

sigh.

I think the Magic should be contracted.

 

Oh..he's exciting, but extremely limited, and his game doesn't "win".

He cherry picks points, and has a poor offensive game.

 

O hai!
[video=youtube;YckTXZ3WjA0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YckTXZ3WjA0[/video]

O hei! Fine, howre u?
[video=youtube;5uRN7iJ5CqQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRN7iJ5CqQ[/video]

 

Every player has his weaknesses. He's not just all flash. He is a great player.

 

I don't see what is wrong with what he said. Why is it so wrong to believe that dunk is better than Wade's or Lebron's?

 

Sigh indeed. How dare I express my opinion in this thread.

 

He's a Orlando Magic fan. I rest my case.

 

That's a horrible case. You have this problem were you seem to think the entire world and God have a natural hatred against Miami. That isn't the case. His opinion is that Griffin's dunk was better than Wade's and James's dunk. That has nothing to do with the team and the hatred you think all mankind has against it.

 

No.

If that were a midget dunking on a trash can, Firesole would have said that it was better than Wade' or James' dunk.

and yes...the vast majority of Non-Heat fans have a natural hatred against Miami.

 

He is not all flash. He rebounds, and is really good on the pick and roll. But his game is limited, and against good defenses, he often struggles.

 

I don't know what arguments you and Firesole have had in the past, so I'm not going to comment on that. I just think its's stupid how you think the world hates Miami and love bringing it up here every 10 minutes.

I agree with you James's dunk being better than Griffin's dunk, and this is coming from a Magic fan.

 

I agree that his game is limited, and he is raw. I'm still impressed with what he's done, though, and I would characterize him as a great player. If he improves his game, he'll jump into elite status, imo.

 

The world DOES hate Miami, and I DO NOT bring it up here every ten minutes. I brought it up when YOU brought it up. You seem to have a fixation on that in the last few posts. Not me.

 

well, I agree with all of that. But he will hurt them in a playoff series this year. IMO.

But in the future..he adds a jumper, and some offensive moves...then it's Love and Griffin and then everybody else.

 

The world doesn't, but whatever. That's you opinion on it. Agree to disagree.

 

I agree.

 

John Starks laughs with a lisp, at these average dunks.

 

That one is definitely in the conversation for top ten all-time.

 

not the "world"..

but large pockets of Boston, New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Orlando, CHICAGO, and Atlanta do.

EDIT: and Cleveland wishes a Nuclear holocaust on us.

 

it's really good.

Wade dunking on Jermaine Oneal when JO was at the height of his powers in the second round of the playoffs in 03-04...was pretty good as well.

Gonna try to put together a list...hold on...

 

I agree with your list. Cleveland, too. However, sometimes you exaggerate it and make it seem like everyone outside of Miami hates the Heat. I don't agree with that. Personally, I like Miami and want to see Lebron win a ring.

 

Most underrated dunk ever IMO?? Kevin Johnson exploded over Hakeem Olajawon off the base line....amazing.

 

I disagree with Wade being arrogant...it was an over the top pep rally but he doesnt have any previous issues.

 

Greatest NBA in Game Dunks of all-time:

#5
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#4
[video=youtube;pCTfxOrX4k8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCTfxOrX4k8[/video]

 

#3
[video=youtube;TkEVn1VUBlE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkEVn1VUBlE[/video]

 

#2
[video=youtube;htRzuvmasMc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRzuvmasMc[/video]

 

#1
[video=youtube;oVcSndz52DE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcSndz52DE[/video]

 

I preferred Griffins dunk because to me it seemed of the 3 dunks we are comparing, the defender actually attempted to defend it. I discount Lebrons because the defender didn't even know he was cutting to the basket. Sure, it's impressive to jump over a guy, but to me it's more impressive to throw it down in someone's face who is tryin to block it.
That and I'm not sure it's easier to jump over a Kia than John Lucas.

It really has nothing to do with the Heat or my hatred for them. It's pretty disgusting even discussing basketball with such oversensitive Heat fans when your opinion isn't the same as theirs.

For the record, one of the best dunks I can recall is Jordan posterizing Ewing. That might be where the term "posterize" originated.

 

and the KJ dunk is the clear cut best dunk for two reasons.

#1 Kevin Johnson is 6'-1".

#2 Hakeem Olajuwon is the best rim defender of all-time.

there is no other argument to be made. that's it.

 

Perkins attempted to defend the Wade dunk as well. That's why Wade got a and1 as well.

see:

 

Man, Dr.J was incredible.

 

That LeBron dunk has no business being in an NBA top 100 list let alone a top 5 list. Pippen on Ewing. Vince Carter's dunk on Mourning. Any of Vince Carter's dunks on Mourning really. Shawn Kemp on Alton Lister. Wade's dunk on Varejao. Tom Chambers on Mark Jackson. Kobe's dunk on Ben Wallace. Vince Carter on Tim Duncan. LeBron on Duncan. Shawn Kemps dunks on Kenny Walker and Mike Smrek. These are just off the top of my head too.

Edit - Almost forgot K-Mart on Jermaine O'Neal. Probably the most underrated dunk ever for me. This is what a poster is supposed to look like. Both hands. Going through the shotblocker.

[video=youtube;mUoVE8GIXas]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUoVE8GIXas[/video]

 

First off..Vince Carter rarely ever got ZO, because he was afraid of him. he did get him good that once though.

But if you look at my list...3 of them are from hotly contested playoff series on pivotal plays against great competition, vs. great defenses.

The Lebron James dunk is in there because it was versus what is still till this day, the best statistical defense of all-time, on the Defensive player of the Year in a Game to tie up a EC Semi-Final series as a severe underdog.

 

What about Pippen's dunk on I believe Ewing.