Soucres tell PBP: They'll let Soliai walk, and swith to 4-3

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  1. ToddsPhins

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    I know. I saw that, too. I figured I'd go with it till one of you guys caught on. :lol:
     
  2. Clipse

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  3. Clipse

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    Or better yet just cut him because he's not worth a damn. And a scumbag on top of it.
     
  4. PhinsRDbest

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    Haha had me going TP:

    Per Benjamin Volin via Twitter
     
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  5. ToddsPhins

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    Which is why you move him to DE. If you cut him he might go after your family.
     
  6. Larryfinfan

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    Bad Title..."sources anticipate that we switch to a 4-3 and LIKELY will let Soliai walk" is a lot different than "They'll let Soliai walk, and switch to 4-3"

    I don't know if that is your interpretation of the article or the way they titled it, but says two different things...

    I mean, if we switch to a 4-3, it IS likely that Soliai won't fit into that scheme, but more likely he'll make more money as a 3-4 DT than staying here in a 4-3 anyway, so yeah...we'd likely separate ways...
     
  7. ToddsPhins

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    Soliai's franchise contract was no peanuts, and Langford won't sign for small potatoes, so I'm guessing that total combined wouldn't be terribly far off from adding Mario.

    If we go that route, I'd strongly entertain the idea of drafting Michael Brockers (DT, LSU) with our #1 pick. Let 2 DTs walk to add a premier DE, and then draft an even better DT to replace the ones you lost. Voila, we upgrade 2 positions and have an elite Dline.

    You ease Brockers in behind Starks (no pun intended) and then pair him up inside with Odrick for the next 10 years.

    We'd still have the versatility on the line to mix things up and run a 34 at times.
     
  8. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Merling hasn't at all been worth the pick we paid for him, but he's not some shockingly horrible detriment to the team. There are worse starters in "better" teams. Ziggy Hood sucks way more than Phillip Merling does, and he's stuck as their starter frequently.
     
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  9. PhinsRDbest

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    I'd like that but I would prioritize upgrading the O-line, especially if the D-line starters is set.
     
  10. Clipse

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    The difference is, we have enough better options that settling for Merling would be a shockingly horrible detriment to the team.
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Merling played pretty decent last year. Towards the end he was really good at deflecting passes.
     
  12. Clipse

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    4 tackles and 2 deflected passes all year long, both in the same game. I'd say really good and pretty decent are stretches at best. Let's face it, Merling sucks. He's a bust.
     
  13. ToddsPhins

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    Normally I'd agree with you, PhinsR, but in this particular instance I couldn't go along with it for 3 reasons:

    1. I'd like to see what the talented Philibin can do with our current group before we use a high pick on Oline that might prove to be unnecessary overkill.

    2. A potentially elite DT trumps a potentially outstanding RT.

    3. An elite DE (Mario) trumps a 1st round RT (b/c adding Mario would require us to sacrifice 2 quality DTs (Solia & Langford), which would leave us thin at DT considering Starks' contract is up after this year, and keeping & improving upon the 6th ranked defenses is much bigger priority IMO than adding a 1st round RT. Our defense is our strength, so robbing Peter to pay Paul in this instance would be significantly counter-productive to our success IMO.
     
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    Not for 43 DE we dont, and especially not if Misi moves to ILB.
    Beggers can't be choosers, right. First, move Merling to DE to cover your bases, and then work on upgrading the position IMO.
     
  15. Clipse

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    I might turn in my fan card if we use yet another top pick on an offensive lineman. At some point this franchise has to get a clue and start drafting impact players.
     
  16. ToddsPhins

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    So what you're saying is he had a really good game? Hmmm, sounds like something to build on, especially when trimming him down and moving him back to his more natural position at 43 SDE.
     
  17. Clipse

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    I'd rather not think about that disaster of a scenario, thanks. I feel much better about thinking of Quinton Coples on the strongside creating havoc.
     
  18. Nappy Roots

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    I don't think it would be wasting it personally. But I just think he would be successful in either role.
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Yea when Jake Long went out against the Eagles that had no impact
     
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  20. Clipse

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    Ugh, no. There is nothing to build on with this bust. Cut him.
     
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    I agree hopefully Philbin can work magic to combat Ireland's seemingly ability to not find starting O-lineman outside of the 1st round. Too bad there is not an Eric Berry or Earl Thomas type safety in this draft, though.
     
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    7-9, 7-9, 6-10. That's the only impact I care about. OL can be found easily in FA and middle of the draft. A top 10 pick in a RT or interior lineman? Just shoot me now on that awful, awful, awful value. But hey, who needs playmakers on offense and defense. Everyone but us.
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Having good linemen would have a HUGE impact on the 7-9, 7-9 and 6-10.
     
  25. PhinsRDbest

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    While I 100% agree. Ireland seems to have a problem doing so. But maybe it was Sparano:wink2:.
     
  26. ToddsPhins

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    I agree. With a top 10 pick, an impact player is of greater significance than a RT. If we needed a LT, then that'd be a different story.

    The only Oline I'd take with our 1st is David DeCastro b/c getting the next Steve Hutchinson for roughly $12 million is a massive bargain considering the Saints just paid Jahri Evans $56 million. NO obviously believes an elite guard has some tremendous value. With the reduced rookie wage scale, it makes it palatable to pick up an impact guard in the top 10 IMO.
     
  27. ToddsPhins

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    Coples is as much of a potential disaster depending on which version of him shows up after signing a fat contract. Personally, I'd rather have Mario & Brockers than Coples & Langford.
     
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    Until you find an elite QB, you can get solid production out of an average one behind great protection, especially with some talent at WR/TE/RB.
     
  29. padre31

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    I'd guess we can see where some of this is coming from, Soliai won't resign for a low rate after making a pro bowl, we won't pay him the 10 million per yr he'd actually deserve, that money may have to go to pay a Manning or a Flynn.

    4 phins made the pro bowl at least
     
  30. Clipse

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    No, having a franchise QB would have a HUGE impact. Having playmaking WR's and TE's would have a HUGE impact. Having playmaking pass rushers, safeties and/or linebackers would have a HUGE impact. Ask the Packers how much of an impact their terrible OL made last year as they were winning the Superbowl. It's about time people start living in 2012. Cornfed is so 1970s. It's all about QB's and impact playmakers in 2012, and it's only going to become even more important. Running the ball, stopping the run, and having cornfed lineman and tight ends are a thing of the past.
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I would love to get an elite QB.

    Who is there at 8/9.
     
  32. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Yea, having Marc Columbo had no impact on the Dolphins last season. :pity:
     
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    They can afford to sign Jahri Evans whom they drafted in the 4th round by the way, to a big contract. They have impact players and a stud QB, we don't.
     
  34. Clipse

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    Jake Long. 11-5. 7-9. 7-9. 6-10. 1 playoff appearance

    Matt Ryan. 11-5. 9-7. 13-3. 10-6. 3 playoff appearance.

    Great job Atlanta settling for an impact QB. If only we had smart guys in our FO as well, drafting impact players instead of safe players.
     
  35. Disgustipate

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    As a 4-3 DE? We've basically got Wake, Misi, and Trusnik, or playing a 3-4 DE at 4-3 DE(Which might be an option). Merling is a guy we can convert and not lose anything, the other guys we're losing quality DTs.
     
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    There's tons of rookies I would start over that loser in a heartbeat.
     
  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    LOL serioiusly? It had nothing to do with their amazing running game. Their record is pathetic in games where turner doesn't run 100 yards
     
  38. ToddsPhins

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    To play devil's advocate, ask the 90's Cowboys what an outstanding Oline meant to their success. Smith and Aikman might have a few words to say. :tongue2:

    Ask Foster & Tate what Houston's Oline means to their offense's success.
     
  39. Disgustipate

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    That's more spite than effective use of resources.
     
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    A slight reach for Tannehill, but I wouldn't be upset with that reach since the early expectations & pressure would be minimized with Moore holding down the fort.
     

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