Question about Tony Sparano and his future

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  1. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No more bagging on Sparano because the offensive line sucks. The offensive line, except for Colombo, has been pass blocking lately. If you rewind the game a few times and see how many times Moore bought time by stepping up into the pocket, what you will be seeing is my boy Pouncey. Moore has had time to throw it except when Columbo has collapsed. Replace Columbo and you have a good pass blocking line. The next step is drive blocking, and If that comes too, the staff stays.
     
  2. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't care if we go 9-7, he still should be fired. This is from someone who thought it was a mistake to fire him last season, who has no problems with his general philosophy, etc.

    He's making some bad decisions with the heat on him. Stuff like like dropping the Wildcat because it was unpopular with the fans, or starting guys he's big fans of when the alternatives have clearly been better. I don't fault him for picking up Marc Colombo as much as not realizing Nate Garner is a better option.
     
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  3. Jaj

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    The Garner situation is bizarre. In this type of offense Nate Garner would be just fine as the team's right tackle and you'll get some nice results in the run game.
     
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  4. Aquafin

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    Well i would not be so quick to say that we will win out we have Dallas on the horizon and most have us losing by two tds I have us losing by 14 points but if we play well then i can see us winning that game. the patriots are down this year but they beat us at home so i think we are winning only to screw ourselves out a great qb or whatnot.

    i think we lose 4 more games and I hope we win out .
     
  5. unifiedtheory

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    If we run the table, going 9-7 he will be retained. We'd get scorched in the media if he wasn't.

    I don't think we are going 9-7.

    6-10, he gets fired the Monday after the season ends. Ireland somehow stays. We draft a lineman and go 6-10 again.
     
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  6. Georgia Fin

    Georgia Fin Fin For Life

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    I'm not sayig a mid season firing is in order but at the end of the season you have to look back at the body of work. One good season with a weak schedule after a 1 win season and Pennington falls into our laps. Since then, when the schedule got tougher where are we, 7-9 both years. This year we'd be lucky to get a 7-9 record. At the end of it all, is the the Capitan you want steering the ship? If so, give my regards to Ginger and Mary Ann.
     
  7. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Number 1 we will not win out .... we aren't that good! So the question becomes do we keep a staff that produces another 7-9 season making it 3 in a row? Can this team win another 4 out of 6 games to even make that question relevant?

    I think we can beat Dallas, both teams seem at this point to be equal, yet we are the travaling team in this short week thus giving ourselves an excuse to lose! It appears to this poster that this staff comes up with more reasons why they lose than I've ever seen on anyother Dolphins staff! If we lose the Dallas game then IMO there is no doubt that Sparano must go because we will not win out!
     
  8. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    He has proven to not be a game planner. And he never adjust to what is happening on the field. A good HC will make adjustments at half time and a great HC will make them during the game. Sprano does neither.

    A lot of talk about him being a good motivational speaker...I don't see it. Have you ever watched or listened to one of his press conferences? IMO people say this without any proof, just repeating anothers person opinion.

    And the three game winning streak. Look who we the three teams that were suffering the most when we faced them. KC is back to it's losing ways, Washington is mired in a QB shuffle and we got them with a QB shuffle again, Buffalo has been found out as of late. I'm not sold on the 3 game winning streak. I still think we only have a chance of winning 1 or 2 more...Oakland and the jest.
     
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  9. djphinfan

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    I don't agree Dpate, but I would like to know what decisions he's made with the heat on him that you think were bad?
     
  10. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    In the context of being on the hot seat. He abandoned a bunch of stuff that he felt strongly about in the past in fear of getting fired. The Wildcat, always deferring the kick, etc. and so on. When a coach doesn't have the courage of his convictions anymore, that's a huge problem.
     
  11. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    The wildcat was an abject failure last year and our best WC option, was not retained by the team.

    I'm sorry, but abandoning the wildcat and Henning as OC was probably one of the better moves Sparano has made.
     
  12. djphinfan

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    hmmm, interesting, I Can't argue the wildcat, because I wanted to evolve the hybrid system really bad..deffering the kick? I don't see that because I don't know what may of happened for him to change some perspective on that topic..He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that could be talked into defferring a kick to open a game..I really don't see the etc your talking about..

    Were all getting into this ethical hypothetical conversation and debate on what we should do if he wins 9 in a row, but I think that dynamic itself will present different views on him if that does transpire, that's a pretty incredible feat considering the offseason, and what he dealt with from the top.
     
  13. thisperishedmin

    thisperishedmin Well-Known Member

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    Even worse is a coach who is unwilling to change when something clearly isnt working.
     
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  14. fin13

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    Henning wasn't fired he retired.
     
  15. fin13

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    We are 3-7 played 3 bad teams and now Sporano should stay, he took 8 weeks to have this team playing, look at the 49's new everything they are 9-1 now that's a coach.
    Ross was right trying to get Jim too bad he didn't
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    thats not what were saying, please don't take this conversation out of context...jesus...were potificating if we were to win 9 in a row.
     
  17. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    The majority of his tenure here a complete utter lack of competence when it comes to game/clock management and just awful coaching up and down the chart. I like Tony as a person, and wish him the best, but except for these past 3 games, I don't ever remember having any confidence in him in calling a game. He just always seems to make boneheaded decisions time and time again. He's gotta go!

    Also, giving him an extension after back to back 7-9 seasons.... still can't believe that. Why reward mediocrity?!?!
     
  18. MAFishFan

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    they aren't winning 9 in a row
     
  19. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    I dont disagree with you on Sporano but i see this trend of anointing Harbaugh the next Bill Walsh and he's in his first season in one of, if not THE worse divisions in the NFL. Keep in mind Tony was 11-5 his first season. I also see it with rook QBs then slump the next year. lets see what Jimbo does over te next few seasons before creamin our jeans over him.
     
  20. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    So ... why the hell did we not go for 2 after the BMarsh touchdown? This is the kind of thing that kills me about Sparano, the lack of game management and game knowledge. The man is just not head coaching material.
     
  21. brandon27

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    His future? Should be getting fired and being unemployed....
     
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  22. muscle979

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    Today should remind everybody why we don't have to worry about falling too far in the draft order.
     
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  23. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    To me it's just that we have not improved at all since they've been here from 2008. If it weren't for Pennington, you figure we go 8-8 or 9-7 in 2008? The regime failed to get a QB and that hurts big time... and the 200 million dollar O-Line is bottom of the league. (Oh and you should never spend that much on an O-Line.)

    We hang around...and lose to the good teams in the end. Story of this regime. Too many FG's, playcalling is safe at times, but ultimately we don't have a QB...you put one of the top QB's at the goal line and the Dolphins would have won the game. The only team we've beaten in the Sparano-Ireland era that finished above .500 besides the Jets and Patriots was the Packers in 2010. That includes 2008. That's not good...4 seasons of only being able to beat below .500 teams is not what you expect, and it's not good enough.

    Say bye-bye...hopefully Ireland goes too.
     
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  24. rdhstlr23

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    Tony should be gone for the Marc Colombo signing alone. I have no idea how he's still starting. You can't go 7-9, 7-9, 5-11? and still have a job. I thought he could hang on the Gary Kubiak line, but I don't think it's happening.
     
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  25. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Against the Broncos people were calling him dumb for going for 2.
     
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  26. CD13

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    Short Answer No. What worries me more is keeping Ireland. He has too much Bill P in him, we will be drafting OL/DL in excess forever with this guy.
     
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  27. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    I agree with everything except the Pennington part. Without him we finish well below 500 that year. There's no way we win even 5 games with J.McCown/Beck/Henne. So that means 4 straight losing seasons for coach fistpump.
     
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  28. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    So what?
     
  29. Coral Reefer

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    What does this have to do with ANYTHING?

    He's a great guy?
    Well swell.
    You don't hire a HC to be someone you'd like to hang out with.
    Wanny was well known as a great guy as well.
    This is a professional sports organization that demands talent from a HC.

    Additionally you can't keep a fired HC and put him in as an assistant to the new HC. You're forcing a new head coach to accept an assistant he does not want and it gives potential for issues within the locker room.

    Sparano, if fired, is not being killed. He'll live and will end up as a position coach somewhere in the NFL so he'll be just fine. Stop crying a river for him.

    This conversation is absurd.
     
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  30. Coral Reefer

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    Completely different situation and can't really be used to rebut his argument here.

    I personally was not against him going for 2 to win the game against Denver.
    It's one of the few times I think Sparano has shown a set and I respected the decision.
    I'm a fan of aggressive football however so it's just me.
     
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  31. unifiedtheory

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    He'll be fired. He has remaining years left on his contract for which he will be paid out for and he is a multi-millionaire....I'm not weaping for him. He dug his own grave by his stubborness.
     
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  32. Jaj

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    I'm just curious if Vernon Carey turns out to be a starting right tackle in the near term future again. If he does Sparano shouldn't even get a job as an OL coach. Carey was a guy that consistently put up top blocking grades as a right tackle for Miami. He's only about 30 and he should have three to four more years under him. By the way he walked out with a cane out of the locker room.

    If Sparano can't coach OL, he can't be a HC, the only thing he can really do is be an assistant coach keeping a team motivated.
     
  33. unluckyluciano

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    Why do people always try to act like penny wasn't here and picked up by this regime lol It's stupid.
     
  34. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Penny fell from the sky on their laps don't confuse luck with planning or trading or being good
     
  35. Aquafin

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    I think Sparano is no where near being a good coach ; thus we need tochange our way outdated offense . this running the ball and throwing the short passes is causeing defense to stop our run game . when we threw the intermediat passes and long passes we got first down then we got stoped. of course we need our oline fixed but Sparano was suposed to be a oline expert but he bungeled it in each of the last three years and when we went 7-9 and 7-9 and then we lost 7 games is why we need to get Cowher . its sad when so many people toare willing make excuse for a guy that loves fistpumps and filedgoals .
     
  36. jw3102

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    Yes, it is impossible. Because the only way Sparano will be coaching the Dolphins next season is if he somehow comes up with the money to purchase the Dolphins and he names himself the head coach. All you have to do is take a good look at all the empty seats in the stadium to understand that Ross has no intention of keeping Sparano beyond this season. Ross has made it very evident that he wants a big named coach and a franchise QB to put more butts in those empty seats.

    Ross gave both Ireland and Sparano another year to turn this team around after two back to back 7-9 seasons. The best the Dolphins can do this year. if they win the rest of their games is 8-8, with no chance of making the playoffs. Ross wanted to replace Sparano last year but he made the major mistake of trying to force Harbaugh to keep Ireland as the teams GM. I think Ross has learned his lesson and he will make the moves to bring in a new HC and GM and hopefully this new regime will finally get the organization headed in the right direction.
     
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  37. MrClean

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    After Miami fires him, Dallas will probably hire him back to be the fist pump coach. He'll be on the sidelines yelling, clapping and fist pumping, to keep the team fired up.
     
  38. unluckyluciano

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    I don't know of very many free agents they can plan for if thats how you want to play it.
     
  39. Killerphins

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    Sparano should and will be gone.
    It's not debatable at this point.
     

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