Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

WWE.com posted that Nash has been fired. This is interesting because if it's in fact true than it makes the past few weeks of storylines with Nash/Punk/Triple H a complete waste. And if it's false than the WWE is opening up a can of worms here trying to work the internet once again.

 

Very surprised with WWE going G they aloud Truth to say "Ninja Please"

 

RAW was pretty boring last night and I know I said I thought having Triple H as the RAW figure head was a good idea at the time but I was way wrong. His promos are just way to scripted and stiff, especially when he's going one on one against Punk.

 

Looks like WWE is having their December PPV in Baltimore. I know somebody who might go check that out... I missed the one in DC in June because I was on vacation.

 

File this under very interesting, on Facebook, The Rock posted what looks like a WWE promo poster of the Survivor Series with him and John Cena on it with the caption "The Rock & John Cena join forces, never before, never again". So it looks like The Rock is definitely going to be at the SS in MSG (although Rock has said he was going to be at Suvivor Series during the summer). Whether he's wrestling or simply going to be in Cena's corner is another story. If I were to guess he's going to be in Cena's corner since a lot of the WM draw should be that it's The Rock's first match back. If he wrestles before then it would lose some appeal.

If I were to guess Cena is probably going to be facing Punk or Del Rio with Triple H in the other one's corner. Interesting though.

 

So.... two Sin Caras?

 

Kind of weird they're using that as a storyline. I guess the 'new' heel sin cara is going to change his identity after this plays out and he's proven an imposter.

In other news I got some good lower level seats this morning for the TLC pay per view in December. I hope it ends up being a good PPV.

 

It could work. I just hope the WWE doesn't waste this angle.... Oh, who I'm kidding? This feud will probably be wasted.

 

And Mark Henry is WHC. Cena, in a move that shocks everyone (and by that I mean no one), wins the WWE Championship.

 

Let's see the WWE has a new heel as champion and he's starting to get over, so what do they do? Of course have Cena beat him for the title! My question is why? How does that help anything? Ditto for the Triple H/Punk angle. What's the point? The WWE is a freaking mess right now.

But hey at least Orton lost the title right? Over/under on when he wins it back? My guess would be at the next PPV if not sooner.

Also rumored main event for Survivor Series right now is Cena, Punk, The Rock and Air Boom vs. Triple H, Del Rio, Nash, Truth & Miz.

 

Watch Orton get it back on SmackDown this week. Cena will be a 50 time champion by the time he retires at this rate. Talk about watering down the titles. I'm glad they gave Henry the title, I like his angle now and it's a nice thing to do for someone who has done everything they asked for so many years. Plus I also hate Randy Orton. I don't want to but I just can't help it. It's hard to explain.

 

Yeah I'm glad Mark Henry is the champ, especially after what Samphin posted about what MH does for the newcomers backstage.

 

hmmm where was that post?

 

I don't like Orton either outside of a 2 month period I believe in the beginning 2009 or 2010 when he was just starting to turn face and break away from Legacy. He actually had an interesting character going on but then just went back to his usual stale self. I don't really get his appeal except that he has a really cool finishing move.

I'm really liking Mark Henry though, I must say I was wrong about him. Maybe it's because he's just so different from anyone else they have right now. He's a heel that's actually used as a monster who doesn't back down (he should have been Sheamus' character to a degree back when Sheamus first won the title).

Not really sure where the WWE is going with "firing" Miz and R-Truth. But I think it's just way too much of the Triple H show on RAW right now.

 

According to Pwinsider.com, former WWE & TNA star Matt Hardy has been arrested once again. Hardy was arrested on September 14th following a search warrant being executed on his home in Cameron, North Carolina. During that search, Deputies seized 20 vials of Anabolic Steroids, 1 "dosage unit of MDMA" (aka Ecstasy), $1,961.00 as well as unnamed drug paraphernalia. Hardy was charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver schedule III controlled substance (the steroids), possession of schedule I controlled substance (the Ecstasy), maintaining a place to keep controlled substance, and possession of drug paraphernalia. He is scheduled to appear in court for these charges on September 29th.

Hardy posted a video yesterday, stating that we would be attending WWE sponsored drug rehab.

I'm glad he's going to rehab because he obviously needs it. It's clear the Hardy Boyz are completely messed up.

 

Ecstasy is no big deal at all. I'm more concerned about the steroids, and I believe he has had some DUI's as well. TNA is putting out a superior prouduct right now, however I feel like the WWE storyline has been getting better as of recent.

Also Velvet Sky on TNA has the tightest nicest body I've ever seen. Too bad her face is kind of bleh.

 

Watching WWE OMG top 50 moments and Tim White trying to kill himself made the list. Totally forgot about that. I know it was on the internet but wow

Milk-O-Mania!!! man do I miss Kurt Angle. He provided some funny moments, Especially with Austin and Lesner!

 

Sorry, haven't been posting much. A few thoughts:

-LOVE the Mark Henry title win and character. Even down to the new entrance and how it is filmed is awesome. Mark is a legit nice guy and he deserves everything that is coming to him. They have tried variations of this monster heel character with him before but never quite got it right. They have the right formula this time and did the absolute right thing by having Orton lose cleanly. Instant credibility. Now, in my opinion, the right move going forward is to have him continue to DESTROY mid-carders and upper mid-carders alike. I'm talking about decimating a roster to where Teddy Long has to start signing "street" free agents in order to even fill up Smackdown, or get talent on loan from Raw...with certain wrestlers refusing to go do to being scared of Henry. I would then borrow my old Undertaker streak breaker storyline and have Henry eventually lose the titel to whoever when, at the PPV, during the match, all of the injured guys that he put out, come out, distract the ref and take turns getting their revenge on Henry until finally he is nailed with an RKO or whatever for the pin. That way he maintains his credibility since it would literally take 10 or so guys to beat him.

-They dropped the ball with Punk. Big time. They coudl still salvage it if they put some forethought into it, but for all intents and purposes, its done. What I would do is have the HitC match go on, and towards the end Nash walks through the crowd, tosses the outside ref aside, takes the keys, opens the door...and Miz and Truth run in, put the boots to Cena while Nash stands guard over Punk. Del Rio would recognize what is going on, and duck out, living to fight another day. Finally, Nash powerbombs Cena, Punk hits him with the GTS and gets the pin.

HHH is confused as Johnny Ace walks by him, smirking, on his way to the ring, (with a NEW belt) and joins the fourseom in the ring, hands the title to Punk who is draped with both the old and new belts, as well as having Nash, Miz and Truth by his side. The next night on Raw. I would open with that contingency coming out to the ring, Punk sitting indian style in the ring, Nash right behind him and Miz/Truth on either side of Nash. Punk is wearing the new belt, Miz is holding the old one. Punk proceeds to do his "old man and the snake," promo before Nash gets NAILED with the old belt by Miz, shattering the belt. Truth/Miz beat the hell out of him as Punk continues to talk over the top of it about how he was able to work Nahs onto his side after his friend fired him and that this is HHH's fault. He now has the title AND the power in Johnny Ace...and Nash's carcass is on HHH's hands. Now, I wouldn't have Miz/Truth be strictly underlings to Punk. In fact, I would have them be a loose association after this initial promo, but mutual respect, so to speak.

-I am liking the Vicki Guerrero storyline with Dolph/Swagger. If the WWE had the stones to do it, I would start having Dolph do the frog splash as his finisher, have Swagger do the three amigos (re-name it the three american eagles or something) and basically start having them incorporate Eddy's offense. If the announcers sell it correctly, the heat would be HUGE. Between Dolph/Swagger, Truth/Miz, AirBOOM and a couple of other lower level teams, you now have yourself a decent tag team division.

-Christian needs his own faction at this point. Him feeling like he has been screwed over lends himself to the Miz/Truth storyline, but I would prefer that Christian debut a couple of wrestlers (C;audio Castognoli and Chris Hero) as his personal guarantees against being screwed over. It also opens up a new tag team for the tag team ranks and allows him to continue getting screwy wins and cheap heat.

-I also bring Tyler Black and Jon Moxley up from FCW with whatever names they are going under now and have them basically have matches and promos with Daniel Bryan. All are amazing talents and Moxley would instantly be top 5 on the mic in the WWE if they let him do what he does best.

Anyhow...there is my fantasy booking for the top of the card.

 

The WWE will never be at it's peak again until John Cena is either dead or retired. His character is the most ridiculously played out character in WWE history. He never loses a match anymore unless it's a PPV and even when he does SOMEHOW he regains the title within days or the next PPV at latest. All his most WWE titles of all time BS is exactly that. BS. Losing the title and regaining it the next night is not winning two championships. F that. Even The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, Undertaker, ALL OF THEM lost matches. Had AMAZING rivalries that were unpredictable. When anyone asks what the problem with WWE is everyone should scream at once JOHN CENA. Aside from having a terrible personality he does all of about four moves every match, not counting the punches and clotheslines he throws REPEATEDLY.

Sorry for that but I hate that man for what he has done to WWE. He disgusts me in every way you could imagine. I hope the man drops off the face of the Earth. (Also word backstage is that he is an egotistical jerk, and often refuses to lose matches.)

Side note, not sure if it's posted but WWE has confirmed The Rock and Cena teaming up at survivor series in the 5 on 5 tag match November 20.

Also going back a few pages, Orton is one of the best wrestlers around right now. He is willing to do things the other superstars are too lame to do now. Like falling on tacks in the Foley match, and his matches against Christian have been the best non PPV matches I've seen in the last 6 months.

 

No words

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Enjoy what little talent WWE has left.

 

I agree the WWE isn't near as good as it used to be, but it isn't the talent level. The problem is that the talented people minus a very slim few are not willing to do the things that happened in the attitude era. Like being destroyed by steel chairs, crazy crap off ladders, top of the cell action and so forth. Also the writers have gone to the pooper in this PG era. However it has been getting better lately in my opinion. There was a four-five year period it was flat out UNWATCHABLE. I just hope things continue to get better because there is still a LONG way to go.

 

...cool story bro...?

 

I enjoyed that ending

 

Great picture of Mark Henry and his son!

 

Missed the PPV, but by all accounts, the ending came off really well done. I am hoping that thie Awesome Truth storyline, somehow ties back in to Punk, but I have a feeling it won't.

Nonetheless, those two have earned their stripes as legit main eventers right now. Good job to them. And sweet to see Cody bust out the old IC belt. If only they would do that for the big strap!

 

This has nothing to do with my hating John Cena, I'm just really curious how Cena was barely in the match. Sure at the beginning he was in it but after the first ten min Del Rio and Punk carried it for him and he was barely to be seen. Also Del Rio locking him out of the cell was the funniest thing I've ever seen happen in a match.

For a regular match I'd give it a 7/10 but for a HIAC it was kind of a dud. Some nice weapon use, but what the hell happened to the days where there was top of the cell action? Without that there may as well not be a cell at all it is just a cage with a top.

The ending with Miz and Truth was pulled off pretty well however. I'm not counting that in my rating of the match however because it happened after.

Also how ridiculous is it that Beth Phoenix had to CHEAT to beat KELLY F'ING KELLY

 

Orton's character is stupid and he's terrible on a mic. He should be a heel.

 

I agree that he is not the best on the mic, but there is really no-one in the WWE very good on the mic right now minus CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Triple H (due to experience) and Christian.

Everyone right now is pretty much a parody of The Rock, Stone Cold or both. The Miz for example does his "Because I'm the Miz, and I'm Awesome" exactly like The Rock did his "If ya smell what the rock is cookin" and John Cena's stupid little "Come get some" is exactly like "Just bring it".

The WWE is in a really bad place as far as characters and personalities go. There are only a handful of good ones. I don't really agree his character is stupid however. I think it just comes across that way because he isn't the most gifted on the mic. His in ring character is very believable. Also I dont think the WWE creative team is smart enough to write a good storyline where Randy turns heel again. Simply because the fans love him so much. Even Cena gets mixed reactions, Orton gets all cheers. Also the fact that Mark Henry is the smackdown heel right now prevents it.

 

The Miz is also a Jericho2K09 rip off.

Anyway a few thoughts: my math could be off but the WWE title has changed hands 7 times since Money in the Bank which was in July. 7 freaking times. It's making the title meaningless.

The WWE killed the CM Punk angle thanks to Triple H wanted to stick his nose in things and come out as top dog. As great as The Miz/Truth angle is it's only a matter of time before Triple H beats them. Which will probably happen at the next PPV and Survivor Series.

So the WWE decides to bring back the old IC title belt but we still have to look at the spinner belt? I don't get it. Punk should have brought back the old early 90s belt back when he returned.

 

Yes and no. I think Punk should have KEPT the new belt, since that is the one he won. When they held that tournament for a new WWE Champ, that's when they should have either buste dout a ne wbelt, or gone back to the old one. The thought process for me is this: If Punk wins the title and quits the company, and then changes the belt...it would have made him look like he was walking around with an imposter belt, whereas the official WWE title allowing a change, is more legit.

Either that or you simply have Punk hold out longer, provide a list of demands via satellite (ice cream bars, new music, merchandise...and belt, as well as some ridiculous things like someone would put in a music contract etc.) and then have WWE cave to them to get him back.

Either would have been way better than the actual outcome...and same terrible belt they have now.

 

Right, like you said it doesn't really matter how it happened but the WWE should have came out with a new belt after Punk won. The spinner belt could be Cena's special title ala Austin's Smoking Skull one.

 

A lot of Orton's fanbase, like Cena, are women and children. He's got the look and Vince has forced him down everyone's throats for the past decade so yeah he gets his cheers. If the Rock would have returned and started trashing Orton then people would be booing him as well. They had no problem turning Christian heel and he got tons of fan love. I just see his 'anger management problem' character as being stupid. Christian put it perfectly in one of his interviews a few months ago; the man was born into the WWE, what does he have to be pissed off about? Him not being a heel is a waste IMO. For me he basically is a heel. I'll give him credit for some of the bumps he's taken [though others like Edge have went hardcore with Foley in the past and actually have a personality] but I just hate his character and that's what it's really all about since this is purely entertainment. I would like him 100 times more as a performer if he were heel.

 

They screwed the pooch so hard with Punk. Unbelievable that they kill Punk's momentum to put Triple H of all stinking people over. Are you kidding me?

 

Are you at all surprised though? I figured they would have Triple H beat him at WM, I didn't think it would happen so quickly, but you knew Punk's shoulders would be on the mat in the end. And it's all because of Triple H's ego and Vince being a moron and listening to him. What purpose does it serve to have Punk lose to Triple H? Zero. It's just typical Triple H BS.

 

I think now would be a good time for John Morrison to start dating a McMahon or becoming Triple H's best friend.

 

Last night's ending was...different. Not sure what to think of it, although I saw a great one liner one a different site:

"So the entire roster is being booed, including camera men, announcers, referees and wrestlers, while HHH is cheere din the middle of the ring, all by himself? He did it, he finally buried the entire roster at once." LOL!

Only Punk, Orton, and Cena were not involved with the walkout last night, whch seems odd, especially for Punk. But they have nutered him so badly since the beginning of summer that it doesn't surprise me. He is still getting a huge push, but the gravitas of his character is gone. Unless this somehow turns out to be him masterminding everything, which even then would feel tacked on. At this point, if I am Punk, I would ask that his character just lay down in matches for a while. Openly defy wrestling anyone since he can't get a fair shake in the irng, or with management. Let him talk on the mic on the wya down to the ring, then simply lay down, get pinned, and walk out.

Once HHH confronts him for "ruining" his show with these protests, have Punk tel him that this will end once he is given an ACTUAL rematch for the title. No cages match, no three way dance, just one on one with him and the champ. HHH grants it to him. Punk walks out, lays down and Del Rio goes to cover. On the two count, Punk rolls him up into a small package, gets the three count and walks out, smirking as the new champ, while HHH is seething at the top of the ramp. But it will never happen...

 

WWE Hired Chris Russo as an announcer, if its the Chris Russo I am thinking of, from Mike and the Mad Dog, Russo being the Mad Dog it should be interesting

 

It's not him.

 

Mad Dog has his own radio station on Sirius if I am not mistaken. It would be REALLY odd to see him and his manic, pitchy voice try to call WWE.

Anyone see the full frontal naked pictures of Tiffany that were posted to WWE.com yesterday? Big whoopsie on WWE's part.

 

It's not the Mad Dog, it's someone else with the same name.

And yes but if I'm not mistake it was posted by a fan on their live events section. Either way how someone didn't spot it or they don't have someone approving pictures being posted beforehand is a bit questionable. Surprised it hasn't happened sooner.