Really? You honestly believe that? You honestly believe that Henne becomes the next Marino next year then those fans would be pissed off?
Hah!! They're dumb fans but they're not that dumb. They know to wait for some type of opportunity in order to have some ridiculous means of rationalizing their embarrassing behavior. let me ask you---- would you boo someone in practice who's busted his butt all off season in attempt to make the team better? Are you that guy?
Isn't THIS the time to ***** and complain about the team? Don't we close ranks when we kick off in week 1? Isn't this the best time to voice your displeasure with this regime? When it doesn't really matter on the field? The dick move is to show up week 1 and then begin the game booing when Henne starts off 0 for 2. NOW is the time to let them know. You think Henne sucks and they should have upgraded, you can drive yourself to practice and boo all you want. In fact, it should be encouraged. Nobody can accuse you of not caring.
I think schmolioot has a great point about cheering at practice. Is it inappropriate to cheer at practice? If not, how could it be inappropriate to voice your displeasure at practice? That's why this stuff about going to someone's house or work and booing them is not a good comparison. Funny, but not a great comparison. It would be just as funny/inappropriate if people showed up in those situations and cheered you on.
No, now is the time to ***** so that when the first mistake happens during the regular season, all the people that complained all offseason long will get to run to this site and say, "Seeeeeeeeeee, I told you so."
I was at camp on Saturday and there were quite a few fans booing Henne for missing a throw in team drills. I'm pretty sure Stringer was one of them...
You do not cheer people who have a nice house? That is why it is a great comparision. Unless you are a jerk who doesn't give people complements.
I think your point bears some logic too. Truth is, if it's an appropriate venue to voice your support, it's also an appropriate venue to voice your displeasure. These guys get millions to play a game because we pay them. They're performers, answerable to those who make them famous. If they have thin skin, they're in the wrong business. I've been arguing the same for years.
They'll have at least waited till the season starts....... through practice..... through preseason...... and till a time that outright warrants any criticism rather than immature, irrational, detrimental, knee-jerk reactions.
I don't think anyone cares if Henne goes home and cries himself to sleep if he's that thin-skinned. But what is annoying is when dumbass members of our fanbase do stupid **** that makes the rest of us look guilty by association.
But what if that's still not enough? You gotta admit---- at this day and age of technology, it becomes harder and harder for fans to express themselves. lol.
Do you honestly think anybody outside of the south Florida media/fanbase even cares about this? Again, the reaction to this has been way over the top. What happened just isn't that big a deal.
Based on what? Every practice helps players get ready to play the games. That's true. But every preseason game is also getting ready to play the games. And every REGULAR season game helps players get ready to play more games. And the Dolphins themselves blur those lines by holding practice in a stadium at night and treating it like they usually treat their inta-squad scrimmage which they always hold a week before the first preseason game. To say that this was a game atmosphere would be folly, but it would also be folly to pretend the Dolphins themselves didn't mix in exhibition/game elements into this practice on purpose. And you know what, they're going to get booed in the games. They are. They were like 1-7 at home last year. The fans are pissed. They have a right to be. They're going to get booed by their own fans. They'd better get used to it. This experience helped them get used to it.
Well, I live in NY and I've heard about this **** non-stop since it happened, so I'd say yea. Even before this I got to hear about how alllll the Dolphins fans are pissed that we, "couldn't land Kyle Orton."
No "BUTS" about why they did it........ Why is it that YOU wouldn't have chanted or booed if you were there?
Based on one is practice and the other is a game. The same reason why an apple is different than an orange.
They allow you to come to practice to support your team. They can be closed at any time. A game is a game. If they **** up a game, you at least paid for it.
It is as appropo to cheer and boo. It isnt proper to chant we want Orton. I am 45, played and coached football and watched my whole life since th 72 undefeated season when I was 6 and yes I remember it, not like I do when I was an adult but remember it clearly as far as watching games,anyhoo. Alot I dont understand the vitriol for Henne. I understand the hesitancy, I dont understand taking frustration out on henne if you are mad at Ireland. Brian Billick was on Irvins show and said he liked henne alot, he had alot of potential. but then said teh Phins had not done enough to contend with teh big boys for super bowl. Irvin said see Henne aint it. Yet I didnt hear that from Billick, I heard as a team we arent good enough and Henne isnt good enough to make up those deficiencies. Which I agree Henne wont win it himself. But my point is I dont think Orton would either. I think Orton would at best win 1 to 2 more games. draft position roughly the same. But Orton is at his ceiling whereas Henne is not, henne may be at his floor and never reach his ceiling, but he has not realized his full potential. So who were we getting that was sooooo much better that we were challenging that made it benficial not to fully explore Hennes potential? Next draft we get Barkely or Jones, Henne nor the fans and MOST importantly the players will not be divided. But with the lack of real talent, the lack of a playmaker, bad coaching there is enough of mitigation and the lack of clearly superior options to henne, why not see what the kid can do with a better system and talent? At least you have taken away all excuses, you have ehausted all avenues to provide him with success. Booing is natural and the by-product of choking consistently year after year. Chanting Orton is petty
Obviously the fans have a right to boo or cheer at practice as well as in games. If you really are that displeased with a player or FO, why even go to watch a practice? It's a ****ing practice. Save it for the game or really voice your displeasure and don't go to the games, don't buy the merchandise, and don't watch on TV if you're going to use the argument that you "pay" these players salaries. Get the hell out of here. Let me know when you put up a hundreds of millions of dollars of your money on the line.
Have you played a game or practice? And you cannot tell me the difference. One you are practicing and learning. The other you are applying what you learn. Fans are pissed, that is fine. However now fans look like emotional douche bags.
So you think it is appropriate to begin booing Henne on 3rd and 10 with 14:45 to go in the 1st quarter after starting 0 for 2. Is that your position? that the Fans can become as irrational as they want as long as they are paying money?
Yes, that is my position. Fans can become irrational when what they are booing or cheering actually matters in a game situation that they are paying for and the players are in a position where making mistakes isn't part of the learning process.
This isn't some high school or intramural squad. These are paid professionals, paid millions to perform, with fans coming to watch them perform. The players want the fans at practice because it reproduces game-like conditions. I've been told that by the players themselves. Well, that comes with an element of price, risk and responsibility.
We're installing a system no one has played in before and incorporating 4 rookies into the offense. It's not going to look like the 07 Patriots after a couple days. Like others have said, people are so ready to say "see I told ya" or "here we go again" that they're evaluating things that have no bearing whatsoever on how good the team will be this season. Listen to Sparano's pressers. He's said flatly that they are doing a massive install early in the process and then dialing it back to the specific packages that they figure to use most and the ones they want ready for New England. Meaning, there's a lot being installed in a short time frame and that can make for some rough moments in practice for the offense. It's all part of the process of getting a team ready to play. IMO booing at a first week training camp practice, after a lockout w/ no OTAs, a slew of rookies and a new offense to learn, is ignorant and tasteless. Boo the concession stands and their $7 dollar hot dogs instead.
And paid professionals still have to learn. Much more than highschool or college as well. Responsibility to be perfect at practice when learning a new system?
Look, the fans that went to the practice didn't go with the intention of booing or yelling for Orton. By all accounts the booing only came towards the end of practice after a particularly bad sequence by Henne. Had the bad sequence never happened we're not sitting here yammering on and on about unimportant nonsense
Allow him more opportunities to throw inside the 35 rather than excessive runs, WC calls, and settling for FGs along with receivers not falling down, being injured, or deflecting passes to defenders and those numbers would've been achieved last year despite missing a couple deep passes.
That is fair. having said that, week 1 better get off to a good start for Henne, because if this is any indication, week 1 is gonna be a mess in the stands.
Oy. If the people that went had the intention of booing Henne or yelling for Orton it would have happened throughout the entire practice. By every account, Henne had been mediocre throughout the entire scrimmage, the fans started elaving and about 2,000 were left in the last few minutes. Henne then gets sacked and had an INT, then the chants started. I'm sure you can deduce from these facts that it was Henne's particular performance over the course of the entire practice that led to the booing, moreso than it was a bunch of jerk fans who went to the scrimmage specifically to boo Henne but refrained from doing so until the last 10 minutes
Responsibility to give the fans something to cheer about, not necessarily to be perfect. Risk that things not entirely their fault have angered the fans. The price they pay for the opportunity to be cheered at practice, is the opportunity to be booed as well.
