We will all know soon enough, the guys who do believe in the power of "Now" will step up, the ones who are slow on the uptake are the baby seals the sharks feast upon..they do not know what is coming at them...never seen a shark before...
Hate to say I agree. But how much of the lack of offensive rhythm is Henne not getting better, and how much is the staff and other players? That's been the great debate. Honestly, I tend towards henne being a bit of the issue. He was a four year starter, first of all, plus he is entering his fourth year in the league. At this point, I think you can believe what your eyes see with him. Clearly, though, this is his last chance to prove he is 'developing' as opposed to chronically 'struggling'.
Have you watched the Bill Walsh Qb videos on Youtube BPK? If not I'd highly recommend them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-MfNd-SjZo Video #1 I bring them up as what Walsh is teaching applies to any offense, and yet we rarely see Henne THAT proficient as a Qb, and that is just on stuff that does not involve throwing a football. Now I'm not going to toss Henne overboard after a practice, just saying those are the improvements I'm looking for from him.
lol Like I said, it's a completely new offense. It's not the same thing that Henne or any other player has seen the last 3 years (thank god). We should look like an offense that's been completely revamped and is going through the growing pains of learning a new offense while getting lit up by a very good defense.
I just find it hilarious that everyone agreed adding Reggie Bush and getting that speed was huge for our offense (prob the biggest thing we've done on offense this offseason, right?) yet, the man hasn't even taken the field yet and we're supposed to act like the current state of the offense won't improve or should be lightyears better than where it is 4 days into TC? lol come on.
Would be funny, but again not at all an apt comparison. These are performers. If you go to a concert, do you stand up and clap and shout even though the musician was drunk, sang horribly, and cut his set short? If you go to a restaurant, do you tip 20% even though your waiter was terrible?
No, I boo him of course. In a game, you are right. In practice, I disagree. They are not performing, they are practicing. If you went to a concert and they gave a bad performance, ya boo. If you went to a band practice and the band got too drunk, you wouldn't boo them. Hell I would have booed my ex-roommates all the time. They were plastered by the end of practice.
Give me a break. His first 5 games weren't comprised of practice squad guys, injuries all over the place, a line that couldn't block despite max protect, and an injured knee. Do you really believe some of this stuff you're saying right now. For someone who seems like such an advocate of principles and doing the right thing, you sure seem to dismiss the ridiculousness of fans booing and harshly chastising a player before a season even begins. You can coat your rationale with 10 cans of whip cream, 50 cherries, and a gallon of hot fudge........ and it's still gonna stink. Right, because there's no pressure already involved in trying to win and succeed as the starting QB of a billion dollar franchise when you're an extremely competitive person who's been busting his *** in the offseason to make us better. Sure, because they don't feel any shame from a 7-9 season WITHOUT fans booing them before the next season even begins. I'm sure this team is thrilled about going 7-9 to the point they're not concerned with doing squat in the offseason. wait, never mind. Sorry but that's complete f'n crazy talk! Yeah, yell & scream at players and berate them as if they don't matter. Yup, that'll get players caring. WTF is that about?! If you have a team that busts their asses (like ours did in the offseason) you f***ing support them. It's called positive reinforcement. The concept's been around for a while. A team that feels they don't have their fan base's support is MORE LIKELY to give up on a season. That's an example of negative reinforcement; it too has been around for a while. Do you think the SB Champ Saints gave it their all b/c their fans did nothing but throw rotten tomatoes? No, they did so in appreciation of their fans, and Saint players spoke of such. Their fans' love & support of the team during a tough time motivated the Saints. They used their fans like a 12th man. Do you think the Saints would've willed themselves to a higher level of play if their fans showed hatred? Hell no. It's pretty easy: "if you don't care about me...... fine, then I'm not gonna care about you. See if I put in the extra effort or play through an injury to win a SB for a fan base that doesn't deserve it, a fan base that cares more about trashing its hard-working players than supporting them."
apperently, when they practice and mess up, you are supposed to boo them. I would hate to see CK as a music teacher. "You suck, go back to 4th grade!"
Nobody watches musicians practice. If musicians were routinely required to open their rpactices to the playing customers they would likely get some jeers from time to time. People are way over reacting to something that a) isn't a big deal and b) only happened once at the end of the scrimmage.
Who's requiring the Dolphins to open their practices? Last I checked they were doing it as a favor to their ungrateful fanbase.
Ironic that I bring up things that are relevant to your logic and rationale and you accuse me of erecting straw men, and then you go on to erect a straw monument and completely ignore the argument I'm making.
I have watched musicians practice. Last I checked, I was a somebody. Then the musicians would stop openning practices to paying customers and then the paying customers would lose out.
Actually, I believe it's a league rule. Even if it's not, all the teams do it as its good for marketing, etc. And yeah, the scrimmage was a "favor" to an ungrateful fanbase. You can't even really believe what you just wrote. First, they did me no favors by having the scrimmage. Second, what exactly do Dolphins fans have to be grateful for to such an extent that we must only be positive and cheer for Henne because he's trying really really hard.
Well bully for you. If the Dolphins were to cloe practice, which I don't think is even an option per league rules, they would just look worse than they do now and it would make Henne look like a little boy who needs his mommy to step in every time he gets upset about something. Look I think Henne stinks as a QB, but I give him enough credit that I doubt he even heard the booing or cares about it in any way.
I'd like that. That was the 3rd year of starting for Orton, second full season of starting, where he saw improved QB rating, improved YPA, TD/INT ratio, YPG, etc. etc. That trend has continued all throughout his career, also. If Henne could show that type of improvement this year, the offense, he, the Dolphins, and the fans would be better off for it.
No because when you pay for Motley Crue you get Motley Crue. The Dolphins fans got sold a QB upgrade and didn;t get one.
If it is then I'm mistaken, but I don't think they're required to have every practice open to the public. I don't see how opening a practice and then the biggest story coming from it is the 20 ******s who chanted for Orton is good for marketing. lol If you're a Dolphins fan and you get to watch a practice, you should be ****ing grateful. I'm in NY, I'd kill to see a practice. Where did I say cheer for Henne? You don't have to do ****. But I'd think that any fan with common sense and not having a 15 year-old girl's mentality would see that the Orton chants are pretty immature.
How classy. What league rule says that Dolphins have to open up practices to public? Really? That is what it would look like?
If any Dolphin's fans got sold a QB upgrade then it's their fault for taking everything the media as fact. And if anyone paid to see Motley Crue, then they don't deserve to hear good music anyways lol
wrong philosophy. Your theory would hold water if and only IF the player were giving a half-assed effort, and fans called him out b/c of it (because a player typically knows when he's giving it his all and when he isn't..... and not giving it your all and being called out for it can be a motivating experience). Your theory is more likely to backfire and NOT motivate a player if that player is giving 110% toward success, and this player sees that unappreciative fans dont support his effort. Fans should always be entitled to voice their disappointment if a team is giving less than 100%. Unfortunately that is NOT the case right now, so these irrational, cancerous fans should learn to shut the heck up and realize their crappy, poisoning attitudes are doing more harm than good.
What did I say that isn't "classy"? And yeah, if the Dolphins decided to close practices, which have been opened for 40+ years because Chad Henne got booed ONCE by a small smattering of fans they would look like a bunch of fools.
Disagree. This is the time that Henne should be ironing out the kinks of being in a new offense with some new personnel around him.
Again, you're way overreacting to a small smattering of people doing something that is not that bad to begin with. They only look like fools because they are expressing somehting you don't like. If they were chanting "Henne's Great" you would be applading. Either is dumb to do at a practice
LMFAO @ the word "fame". But you're half-right. It IS kind of amazing how I can say the same things I always did, argue the same way I always have, and then be accused by ignorant folk like you of having "changed" because I penned a few articles on a blog and spent an uncomfortable 90 seconds in front of a camera discussing the portion of a co-written article that I didn't even write. But, it's not really that surprising. People like you have been arguing ineffectively against me for years. That's not to say others never argue effectively against me, plenty do, many of them right here in this thread. You're just not one of those people. You don't think things through very well or very intelligently, and you express yourself even worse. And so instead of actually having a more well thought out opinion, instead of actually knowing what you're talking about, you sharpen your claws and go after people personally, or grasp onto anything you can to make it seem like you're arguing well. People will tell you they respect your opinion, but they're being polite. There's not really anything to respect. Just truncated responses that substitute vigor for knowledge, insults for arguments, and freshly-aborted "opinions" based on games only half-watched (or not watched at all and lied about). So is it surprising that one like you would grab onto anything at all, like the word "fame" and the absurd concept that I've somehow been changed by articles and arguments I've been penning for years, to avoid having to actually know what you're talking about and go trhough the trouble of expressing it well? No. Pretty unsurprising.
Again because Burnett is head and tails above most anybody in free agency at that position this year...to cut Crowder was a given...if Burnett wasnt a free agent, Crowder would be a dolphin still...
Right now, I see too many fans looking for Henne to fail so that it validates their previous belief of him. It honestly seems like some of these "fans" would rather be proven right than to see Henne turn the corner and take us to the playoffs (after a typical sophomore slump season). If some of these fans had the choice between Henne or Orton taking us the the AFC Champ game, they would choose Orton just to feel better about themselves despite Orton costing a draft pick and more money. It's asinine.
