Jason Cole's sources say we have interest in Reggie Bush.

As a general rule though, rookie RBs are probably the most likely of any position to be able to make a decent contribution, along with DL. Thomas may or may not.

 

you really think that this team is that bad though, why are you making a big deal out of the QB and RB position with FA not even having started yet, we clearly will be players once FA starts, so the team you see right now is not the finished product by any means as for the stuff you supposedly heard rosenhaus said, lets see how many more people will say they heard this, so far....NONE

 

Its because of the end of the season. We are not a team on the rise - at least perception wise. I was just watching NFL Access on NFL Network, and Brian Baldinger & Warren Sapp talking about "AFC East team needs", and the 1st point mentioned, was the Harbaugh and Sparano incident. It still hangs over the organization and is the 800 lb gorilla in the room. Some on here don't think that was big deal, but to me, and many people outside of Miami it was just horrible. Agents and their clients look at that and say "woa, no way I am going into that mess there, its not worth it", especially since the money will be more or less equal, its just not a place with good karma right now. On the show the next thing they brought up was Henne. Baldinger comes right out and lays it on the line (with Sapp laughing in the background by the way) and says since Dan Marino retired its the biggest reason Miami cannot seem to move forward, and that there was no QB drafted, that he (Baldinger) just doesn't see Miami doing well with Chad Henne.

I urge you to look at that and then tell me all is well in Dolphin Land. Those are two independent opinions from the outside looking in, and they basically said the same thing I have, and make my point about what Rosenhaus said too, that Miami is just not a good place to be right now.

Set your DVR please.

 

He did single out Miami, because of all the teams, this situation in Miami is the worst. I mean c'mon dude, the owner was out in California courting John Harbaugh. If you believe he made a trip out there "just to gauge what Harbaugh was thinking" I have some swamp land to sell you. You are just being a homer to the end. It was what it was, Ross making an a** of himself. He thought his money & Michigan connection would be an automatic in getting Harbaugh. Ross simply overplayed his hand, and got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Egg on face, he then crawled back to Miami and had to play kiss & make up with Tony Sparano. He didn't stop any of the pub in his trip to California because he thought for sure Harbaugh was coming back with him. He could have done that much more discreetly and no one would have known a thing about it. But Ross loved being "the man" and it was going to be such good pub for his team. He was going to snag the prize pig of the "in the minute" coaches. It was going to be Ross way to save the Dolphins, after what was easily one of the worst seasons in team history, despite only a 7-9 record. The home loss record was embarrassing, and then losing to Buffalo, Detroit, and Cleveland in a row at home - Henne getting booed off the field - and then getting completely humiliated at NE, Ross had to do something. He was clearly losing his fans. Remember he also wants the public to pay for his stadium renovations. The public was making it clear they were not happy with the Dolphins and certainly not in a giving mood, the renovations talk went over like a lead balloon. Ross was desperate, and desperate men do things that can make them look silly. Voila ! We got the Harbaugh Fiasco.

it was someone else in this debate that said Miami was not alone. I am not going to talk about other teams, because frankly the only one I care about is Miami. The focus is on Miami, and Rosenhaus saying he would not recommend to many of his clients that they seek to come to Miami unless it was a last resort, and he said he also had heard that other agents have been telling their clients the same thing.

Trust me bro, if the Dolphins come out of the gate like 2-6 next year, Sparano is gone, and possibly Ireland too. Then you bring in a new coach, with new philosophies & different personnel needs, and someone can sign a big FA contract (ala Porter) and then not exactly fit what the new regime wants. You then see JT fallouts and Joey Porter "bad fits" on your team. There are 31 other teams, and if you are a top flight, big time FA why not just sign somewhere else as the money is probably be very similar. Saves you a huge headache.

Can't you entertain that this scenario is at least possible ? Geeeeeesh.

 

Did I say I dislike DT or any of the rooks ? No, but do I think this year they will make the impact that other rookie classes have made with the Dolphins, no I don't think they will. They have missed way too much already. Many people dismiss the OTA's and mini-camps, but fail to realize that is where a lot of rookies every year have a chance to catch up to and get on par with a lot of seasoned vets. They help to level the playing field so to speak.

 

And all to play in a situation in which you aren't wanted by a new coaching staff, you are miserable and don't play up to your capabilities because of that. You become angry and resentful, and can't wait to get out of the situation.

Sound familar ? Joey Porter come to mind ?

Actually our weather is not as attractive as some think it is, especially if you come from somewhere out west. And others also prefer to have seasons. I believe that many of our players live elsewhere in the off-season, the actual time of the year that has any attractive weather (Jan-Feb-March). So I believe the weather aspect is a total non sequitur. As for being in a town "desirable for a young millionaire" that is anywhere actually. If you have money, you can make your life comfortable and fun wherever you are. If not, then you don't know how to spend your money wisely.

The tax issue is the only thing that could be used to sway someone, and then again I say is it worth being put in a position of being possibly miserable for a couple of million when we are talking about 10's of millions on any contract you sign ? If you make $ 25 million you won't miss 1 or 2 million to be in a situation that is more stable and with that usually means more wins, and more professional success.

 

Well on this board how many people, yourself included, actually live in So Fla, and have access to Channel 7 and Sports Extra to watch, which is where I heard him say it. This board shows just how dysfunctional the Miami Dolphins fanbase has become, as I would dare say the majority of the people on this board, don't actually live, not only in Miami, but not even in South Fla.

There is a reason that there are so many empty seats on game day, and also fans of other teams at the stadium. Its because a lot of the "old Miami" people have left. I graduated from Coral Park High in 1978 in a class of 856, and in 2008 we had a reunion (I was on the reunion committee so I know these numbers) only 171 of those I graduated with, just 30 years before, still lived in Miami-Dade County. Only 47 had passed away, and only 155 lived in Broward or Palm Beach counties. We found that more alumni lived out of the State of Florida than resided in state.

That is one of the biggest problems that the Dolphins face, is how to get new residents of Miami, a great deal of which have no interest in the Dolphins, to be interested. Remember Miami has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation, as well as one of the highest unemployment levels, and lowest household income per capita rates in the nation. If you take away the richest 10% of the Miami population, Miami then becomes one of the poorest cities in America. That can and does affect the attendance at Miami Dolphins games, as well as at the Marlins games too. The Heat are different in that now that is the place to be seen, and those with enough income are bandwagon jumping over to those games, but the last few years it was apparent at Heat games that the low income of Miami hampered attendance there too. The Heat's success I also think has pulled some season ticket holders from the Dolphins, especially those that can't do both, and choose the Heat simply because the reward and potential reward is greater. The Heat are miles closer to winning it all than the Dolphins may be for years to come.

The 2nd reason is the new availability of following your old team. Its easier than ever, so no reason to switch to a new team when you move to Miami. You just order NFL Sunday Ticket and you get to see your old team every week. 20 years ago, it wasn't like that, and eventually you and most probably your kids became Dolphins fans, because it was the team you were exposed to all the time. That's no longer the case.

 

You're putting your perspective on this rather than looking at what most people do. I used to work for an NFL agent and the fact of the matter is that your "quality of life" argument is rarely a factor for young NFL players. The vast majority are looking at money as the #1, #2 and #3 priorities. Additionally, NFL agents make money on a percentage so they are motivated to maximize the contract. If you ever saw Jerry Maguire, most agents act like Maguire at the beginning of the movie not the Maguire at the end. It's all about "show me the money". Also in my experience young black males have favored hot weather over a change of seasons. I happen to prefer a change of seasons and prefer the weather out west, but that's not the norm for most young athletes. And taxes are also a big factor when you're talking about large contract amounts. So Miami has some built in advantages, but for the vast majority of young athletes it's all about the money b/c they see their careers as short. They want to get theirs while they can. Even if they're not in their favorite place for a short time they are willing to do that to maximize their income. Now when you have older vets that already have the money then money is less of a priority. They may be looking for quality of life or chasing a ring. But I don't expect Miami to be looking for that type of FA.

 

Not the last few years they haven't been. Most of the higher profile ones can't stay healthy.

 

And I'm once again saying that Rosenhaus never said it! I've herd him say different and proved it...

 

Come on man! The situation in Miami is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be!

 

Same here.

There's just no way an agent would say that about any team that he wants to continue the opportunity to make money with. And even if he legitimately thought that about MIA, he wouldn't say it because of what that'll say to the other teams he works with.

And like you said lol, Miami is not that bad at all. Even when we were 1-15, it's still ****in Miami! Most people would like to live there regardless of the millions you're being paid.

 

I can actually believe that Rosenhaus said it just b/c the times I've spoken to him he says all kinds of things. I don't know if he does it for shock value or if he just speaks without thinking, but what he says and what he does are not necessarily related.

 

He could have said it so the Dolphins FO might feel more compelled to offer a bigger contract to potential clients. That in turn would up the ante for any other interested teams.

 

lol I'll think about why he said it after someone shows any kind of proof that it happened.

Doesn't anyone else think Florio would have at least a few articles on something like this?

If people already looked for it and found nothing then..

 

Reggie Bush would have to be down the list of FAs. There are several that would better suit what we need. His skillset is not at the RB spot, but at the KR/PR/specialty guy at WR...that's it...he's not a guy that can take 15 snaps from whoever is our #1 (I'm assuming Thomas, unless we pick up a De Williams). Too many missed games and not enough spark for my money...

 

I don't think he said it. He may have said something but I watch him on Channel 7 all the time and he mentions Miami as a possible fit for his clients often.

 

That would make sense.

Either way I think whether he said that or something similar that was misinterpreted, the notion that he or any other agent would steer players away from Miami for anything but a bigger contract is ridiculous.

 

Comments like that indicate you consider Miami the bottom of the barrel when it comes to desired locations for all the UFAs. That is a mind set I just cannot abide.

 

Well I'd rather be a homer than a Negative Nelly like you are. There are enough important things in the world to look negatively upon without doing so with spectator sports. Most folks use following their favorite teams as an outlet from the problems of day to day life and the crap going on the world. Not sit around and think woe is us, woe is us, woe is us, on and on and on, like you apparently do.

 

Exactly! He may have said something similar but I just don't see how an agent would tell his client to sign elsewhere for less because Miami's organization is in some sort of shambles! Money is the absolute bottom line for 99 percent of the players and agents!

 

No, what you may have heard is him saying something at a later date, for a reason for one of his clients, but it doesn't mean he didn't say what I heard him say earlier.

Ozzy, I wouldn't lie about this. I am a respectable person, and a Christian. I don't lie and won't lie, because I (unlike too many people these days) do believe there are consequences not only in this life for not telling the truth, but punishment in the afterlife for not telling the truth/being a good person.

Trust me, he said it, I heard it on Sunday night Sports Xtra on Channel 7. It was immediately following the Harbaugh fiasco. Now in the mean time, he may have changed his mind. I haven't heard him say anything one way or the other since then. But please do not keep calling me a liar. Unless you can, with a clear conscience say you watched every telecast of Sports Xtra on Sunday nights, and can say you definitely know he didn't say it, then I will relent and accept I MIGHT be wrong, and that maybe I may have misheard. But unless you can do that, and are doing it with a clear conscience, please do stop calling me a liar and I would expect a bit of an apology for that.

 

We were three plays away from being 4-12. That is fact.

1) Buffalo had all the momentum in the 4qtr in Buffalo in the opener last year, and can you say truthfully that you weren't glad there wasn't another 1 or 2 series for Buffalo ? We won 15-10.

2) Next week at Minnesota, if not for Koa Misi landing on a freak Farvre fumble in the endzone, we lose that game. Remember they were driving at the end and we won it luckily when Farvre mucked it up. We won 14-10

3) Green Bay, we could have easily lost this one as it was in overtime. Those are usually a lucky win, when you get them. We won 23-20.

Lose those 3 and you are 4-12. And I will give you we could have been as good as 11 wins had things gone our way. But still we were that close to 4-12.

Good teams don't have the capacity to be 4-12. NE if you look at their season, at worst would have been 9-7. Good teams are like that. We are not, right now, a good team.

 

At this point, I think it is. I think you guys will see this, if the FA period plays out like I think it will. Miami will be looking at the last day for scraps on the table. The good, difference making FA's will not be signing here. If I am wrong I will gladly accept your pounding me on the board, as long as it is not childish and obnoxious. But I believe I will be right.

 

Well I used to be that way. Always hopeful that THIS would be the year with the Dolphins. I have finally been broken down after 30+ years of disappointments. I have a Cubs Fan mentality. They have an old joke in Wrigley Field - after the 1st pitch of the season, they say, "wait til next year" because its been 102 seasons now, that the Cubs will not end their season as Champions. They accept it, and have fun with it. I am not at that point yet, but I can no longer just be hopeful only to be let down, year after year. I can deal with it easier by thinking they'll suck and then be surprised when they do win, than have high hopes only to be extremely depressed when reality hits, and once again the Dolphins end up out of the playoffs, and embarrassing themselves off the field as they did this offseason with the Harbaugh Fiasco.

 

actually the way i look at it, is that we were only some plays away from beeing 9-7 or 10-6, the pick six against cleveland, how many FG did carpenter miss against buffalo @ home ??? , what about the jets game, where jason allen slipped and let braylon edwards walk in from 65 yards, we all know how the pittsburgh game ended as well.....

 

i just dont think any player would not mind no income tax, a nice warm climate throughout the year...MIAMI BEACH baby....nuff said

 

If Miami could afford a fraction of the big names I've heard saying they want to play in Miami we would be stacked.
Such as
Wilford
Boldwin
Shockey
Sims Walker
Those few just off the top of my head

 

if you look at the whole schedule, there were only 4 games all season that we lost and couldn´t do anything about it, baltimore, new england* (still gets an asterisk since we were leading 7-6 at halftime but then the special teams took over...) and the bears game we lost but we played with like our 3rd QB and 3rd Center i believe and of course the 2nd new england game in week 17 the rest of the games we were competitive and could have gone either way

 

We dominated those games so much that we won by less than a TD ? C'mon DJ. Buffalo was coming back on us in that 1st game. You watched and rewatched it. Had their been a 5th qtr the Dolphins would have probably lost that one. At Minny the next week, even after playing like crap, you know as well as I do, that we had to hang on with a last minute drive that Favre screwed up for us to win that one. Our offense was horrendous in that game with Misi scoring a freak TD. Had he not gotten that lucky bounce and TD we lose that game 10-7. And GB, dude, any game in OT is a lucky win/unlucky loss. We should have won that one in regulation anyways except for a last minute TD by GB.

DJ don't argue just for argument's sake.

And I didn't say we should have lost them, I said we were 3 plays away from being 4-12 instead of 7-9. Those are two different statements.

 

DJ if you really knew me, you'd know I'm a pretty decent dude. And yes I do love my Dolphins, but I am just tired of the losing, and the embarrasment they have become. I grew up with a Dolphins that always stood for integrity, hard nosed play on the field, winning with dignity, and an owner & front office that didn't always have the most money, but they always outworked just about everyone else in the NFL to the point that for many years they averaged around 10 wins a season, and from 1970 to 2003 had I believe 2 losing seasons. That is a high standard yes, but one that I came to expect from my beloved Dolphins.

And now to see them struggle so mightily it breaks my heart, and it has broken my will to believe. But I also don't see the reasons to believe that you do that anything this year will be any different, and I really do believe that. I am not just being contrarian. I have already stated my reasons a few times I will not go over then again.

 

If you reread my post I said we could also have been as good as 11-5 had things gone our way, but reality is what reality is, and that is we easily could have been 4-12. Good teams do not leave themselves in that vunerable position.

 

SIGH, as usual those that live from afar, don't look at So Fla the way most of us who have lived here all of our lives do. Al13 to be quite honest, South Beach/Miami Beach is but a small part of So Fla, very small as a matter of fact. Living here, you have to deal with the rest of So Fla, and that, to be as nice as I can, can be rather horrible.

I was born and raised here, as were many people on this board. Many of which I can see from their present places they live, have chosen, for one reason or another to not live in Miami-Dade or Broward County any longer. I doubt many of them will refute much of what I have to say about this subject. I am stuck here for the forseeable future and when the time comes, I will be out of here just like many others who post on this board.

Yes players can insulate themselves rather nicely if they have the money to do so, and I even said in one of my posts that a player can make anywhere nice if they want to. But in many places you don't have to work that hard for it to be a nice place. There is no place that I have visited, where I have encountered as many rude people, as I find here in So Fla. Not in NY, Chicago or LA, or anywhere. I don't know why that is, but it just is that way. Its one of the reasons Mrs. Saban wanted to leave, and she begged and begged Saban to get out of here - she hated it here. Other have hated it here too - especially those that come from California, Vegas or AZ. Ask most people who know both cities, if they would rather live in Phoenix or Miami, and are honest about it, I would dare say many more than half would say Phoenix. I know I would in a heartbeat. No more hurricanes, absurd humidity, and definitely a friendlier population. Maybe its that the majority of the population there is from the Mid-West of the US, who have a great reputation for being more open & friendly people. It used to be like that when I was a kid, but for whatever reason that friendliness is gone from So Fla. Its just such a hedonistic atmosphere these days, that its quite frankly lost most of its old charm.

 

lol I'm sure that just sounds awful to 20-something male athletes with millions of dollars.