Ugh, yet another run heavy Qb seeks out a QB "guru" to work with prior to declaring for the draft, or already declaring, as if that will erase tens of hours of game tape, this is the ultimate in "I ate heavy during the holidays so now I'll starve to make up for it" thinking. As if NFL GM's are that stupid, to me he should work on what he does do well and let the GM's see the potential rather then try to fool'm by tutoring under a Qb Guru Type, the Eye in the Sky won't lie, may not tell the whole truth, never lies though.
The concept of "oh, my college tape doesn't matter, I'm going to work with Gruden!" Oh, okay, that makes everything better now.
I didn't get that out of it. I just got the rumor that he could be working with Gruden. It's no different to me than Ricky Stanzi working with Tom Martinez during draft process.
Apples to Oranges Alen, Stanzi had a body of film at Iowa as a pro style pocket Qb, Pryor does not, so why add Jon Gruden this late in the game? Well, it speaks for itself.
I don't see the issue with it. I'd rather he work with someone than sit on his *** and wait for the lockout to end then possibly get drafted in the supplemental draft.
Why wasn't he doing that work in his OSU offseasons? What could possibly change now by working with Gruden? Buzz is, his WI game tape is particularly poor, to me that would be fine "if" he showed what he can do well, and showed mental flexibility to learn, hiring Gruden amounts to a band aid, a Con, why would any half way intelligent GM buy into it?
Maybe he was? I don't know if he was or wasn't. He could possibly improve some. Its not buying into it, its just good to know he's at least willing to work. He could have just been like Jamarcus Russell and not even attempt to give a damn.
Wrong mentality Alen, where was this ethic to improve prior to being bounced off of the OSU campus? And THAT is why the thread title is what it is, hiring Gruden now is liking taking swimming lessons after the ship hit the iceberg.
No, its not a wrong mentality. Me, you and most, if not all, don't have a clue what work ethic Pryor had at OSU.
Alright, for the sake of discussion, what "do" we know about Terrell Pryor before he hired Gruden? What are the Sum Of Components Known about him, irrefutable facts as it were?
We know that he's all about the camera, that he's struggled in the passing game, that he's not a great teammate, that he's all about getting what he wants and that he lacks the desired intangibles (work ethic has not been questioned to my knowledge) for the position he plays.
Eh, take the emotion out of if though alen, can he make all of the throws? Is his elusiveness noteworthy? Can he make plays? If so, how? That, to me, is the bottom line, this hiring Gruden stuff to go through a couple of hundred reps is at best a distraction.
Well, you think X's an O's Alen, I think: -Scout -GM Anything that Gruden can possibly do with Pryor is a sideshow, no way any half way intelligent GM would give a moment's thought to Grudens' workouts with him over his body of work, it is foolishness.
Hmm, to me, I see Pryor, I see Adrian McPherson, and would not know where he fit into my roster no matter what he does with Gruden. Perhaps you see something different?
No, I don't. That's besides the point. My point was that I don't see it as a big issue that he's working with a guy to help improve himself, even if it is a little. It doesn't mean that I think of him higher than others. I am not high on Terrelle Pryor at all. That doesn't mean I will bash him when I don't need to.
If he would play a Brad Smith type role why not take him with a 5th round pick or so but as a Qb prospect I think he's extremely suspect, I don't see him being a starter in the NFL without 3-4 years of coaching/work.
This thread is baffling. Padre, are you saying you'd like Pryor more if he wasn't working with Gruden? Or wasn't working with anyone at all? Or are you saying that nothing short of throwing himself off a bridge will please you? I don't like him as a player at all, but I don't get this.
I see Cam Newton. Just to watch them when they drop back and pass down field...or when either rolls out to pass, or breaks from the pocket and runs, I do not see a nickel's worth of difference between the 2.
