Was unaware of Avril's tender, thanks for pointing that out. But, to me, I'd rather pay someone who has been more productive than Tony McDaniel over the course of 3 years (Kendall Langford) than someone whose production is not much better than what Phillip Merling did in 2009. And, since Langford's going into a contract year, I'd bet he's got a little something extra going on, much like Paul Soliai did. I mean, why overpay for McDaniel when you can justifiably get as much from Phillip Merling for less cost later on? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=11266
Avril would be an amazing fit in this D I agree there. If there is no hard cap then sure spend the money to resign a good player even if he is a rotation player and not a true starter. McDaniel was a major bargain for a 7th. But if there is a hard cap we got to let him go as there are other far more pressing concerns at TE (need a complement or an upgrade over Fasano), RB (Probably want a speed back to go with Thomas), finding another consistent pass rusher and upgrading over Crowder.
Imho they have to make a hole for Odrick, no way around it, and he will probably be on the nickel Dline, if they bring someone in at OLB for ST, and they should (Tim Shaw comes to mind), then Merling inherits a DE/DT role on the nickel line as well. Wake/Odrick/Merling/Misi or Wake/Starks/Odrick/Merling though I'd think they want to keep Starks snaps down a bit so if Q walks we should hope Ike Francis or Koa Misi comes into camp ready to do some work, a intriguing PS player is Mike Revira, nice measurables, along with Robert Rose who has all of the tools physically to replace Q if he walks in FA. Rose pumped out a 4.75/1.61/4.44 at 294 pds physically he is impressive whether or not he can play football though... http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=66292&draftyear=2010&genpos=DE Rivera: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=12263&draftyear=2009&genpos=olb Rose is an interesting prospect B14, nice size and speed combo with the height they like in a SOLB, maybe Bill Sheridan can do something with him.
IMO, McD is much better than Merling. Langford may be hard to resign next year. So getting resigned McD this off season, would make it less painful if we do lose Langford as a FA next year.
If he rotated about 50/50 with DT would he get that many snaps? McD got 500 last year as the 3rd DE. Merling has never shown himself IMO to be the equal of McD and while Odrick showed a glimpse, his health concerns would be a worry until he proves he can last a 16 game season.
I knew that we got McD for a 7th rounder and he was undrafted. I did not know he cost $1M in 09, and $1.85M last year. As of now I don't believe he's worth much more than that. He is not going to start this season but does have value for options and insurance. I was thinking of a base contract along the lines of 4 years and $11M, A $1M signing bonus with salaries of $1.5 M, $2M, $3M, and $3.5M. Add in a an incentive bonus for starting. If it does not work out, the salaries are not guaranteed. If it does, he gets paid starter money. What were you, and others, thinking about contract numbers?
I'd expect 3 million per yr minimum SB, Starting 3-4 De's rarely hit the FA market, toss in McD can play DT and NT and a team looking for a NT could pay him 4 million per to plug in at Nose Tackle and save 6 to 8 million Abrayo Franklin will command.
Disagree on Crowder. He was great vs the run, Dobbins played well as a backup, and Edds comes back. I don't see that need this year.
We're at the same number Padre, just a matter of how the deal is structured. I can see him as a DT but not a full time NT.
Thing is, a GM and Coach can see him as a Nose Tackle, a young NT, they never hit the FA market SB, and the tag for one is 12 million per yr, so from a value standpoint if you can get 80% of the production from McD that you can from Abrayo Farnklin for 4-6 million per yr, you sign him. And for us, that #4 DE/DT slot already has Odrick and Merling waiting to play, so why pay him 3 millon and why would he take 3 million per yr?
We didn't see him as a full time NT or would have put him there over Starks and Soliai. At the time, neither had shown they could do the job. Starks was a Pro Bowl DE and Many thought Solia would not make the team. Yet, no McD in the picture. If I knew we were keeping Langford and Merling, and that Odrick was better, I would not. That's why I structured the contract as I did. He said he wants to stay. No idea what teams may think he's worth.
This. And if you look at Merling's 2009 stats when he was healthy, his production was just about equal to Tony McDaniel's in 2010. I'd think if Odrick even fulfills 2/3 of the potential he had coming out of the Draft, his production will be better than McDaniel's. I'd rather pay someone who has proven his worth for 4 seasons - as Kendall Langford would be a safe bet to do going into a contract year - versus overpaying someone who has only flashed in a contract year, as Tony McDaniel did, when we have one player waiting who is most likely better, and another who has shown to be almost as good - referring to Odrick and Merling. Now, if you're to lop off Merling, then I'd see it somewhat differently. But Langford> McDaniel = Odrick, so in the end, I'm paying Kendall Langford and hoping that Odrick fulfills his potential to be better than McDaniel. Two or three years down the road, I'd expect Odrick and Langford are the starting DEs.
