Lombardi says there is growing concern about Mark Ingrams knee.

There are only 2 speedy feature backs in the NFL. CJ2K and Jamaal Charles. On other teams, speedy guys are merely complimentary. Bush in NO, Washington in SEA, McCluster in KC. If you can find a speedster who can run through the tackles like CJ or JC, then take him. Otherwise, you draft a guy like Ingram and complement him with a speedster like Sheets if he's healthy and performing.

 

Wouldn't surprise me with this regime
and considering it has been 18 years since
a center has been drafted top 15

Why not break the trend

 

You got a point there. However, I'd argue that Ahmad Bradshaw, DeAngelo Williams, MJD, and Fred Jackson are speedy RBs who are more than simply complimentary backs. But then, that's only 6 out of 32 teams....

 

This is how I feel about Heisman Trophy winners
2000 Crhis Weinke NFL FAIL
2001 Eric Crouch NFL FAIL
2002 Carson Palmer NFL a few DECENT YEARS beyond that, mediocre
2003 Jason White NFL never even made it in.
2004 Matt Leinart NFL good bench warmer
2005 Reggie Bush Good role player in a good offense but now relegated to spot duty
2006 Troy Smith NFL FAIL
2007 Tim Tebow NFL still huge question marks loom about this kid.
2008 Sam Bradford NFL did resurrect a stagnant offense to 7-9 his rookie season but is in weakest division in the NFL,
2009 Mark Ingram not in NFL
2010 Cam Newton NFL seems to be headed for high draft pick

If you look back the last 10 y ears outside of the upside of Bradford, the rest turned into also rans real quick in the NFL. Winning a Heisman in college football means crap when you reach the NFL.

 

I don't think a tremendous amount of people are using the Heisman as a huge selling point on Ingram.

 

Probably not but just bringing up a point. Times have changed in regards to the winner of the Heisman Trophy. IMO, Ingram is NOT a good number one running back in the NFL. Especially in our system. A grind em out power back with durability and some decent run people over type such as a Steven Jackson as our number one back with a speedy get outside type of a backup back. Ingram would fade real fast as a feature back in our system. Just my opinion.

 

What has time changed? I don't think the Heisman has ever been a great judge of NFL performance.

I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support that, especially in the context of the Dolphins "system". I'd go so far as to say that the style of a runningback is really not all that important in the context of a "system" that is installed in an offense. Daboll had success with Peyton Hillis and Jerome Harrison, and did it by emphasizing different kinds of runs.

 

I don't think there is anything ground breaking or extraordinary, but he altered what he did to fit better with what he had. With Harrison there seemed at least to be more outside zone or zone stretch stuff, and with Hillis it was more inside zone and the outside plays seemed more man toss plays with a fullback and pulling guard lead blocking. It seems like he did a good job altering what he did with what he had.

I like the outside zone plays for the Dolphins. The strength right now is the edges of the blocking scheme(Tackles, Fasano, and Polite arguably fits), rather than the interior. I don't think it inherently points to a type of back or anything, or that they'll run their game like the old Broncos scheme and want undersized linemen or anything, but its nice to see a good variety.

 

No offense, but Seattle is in Washington. I hate when people don't know their geography. Carry on.

 

What, the higher gear bs again?

Idk what exactly speedy means, but Ingram is very quick for how powerful of a runner he is.

 

Eff you

 

So, out of the last ten, the only one you call a good player is the one running back. I think that says more about Heisman quarterbacks than anything else.

 

As If there was any more reason to trade down.

 

I'm not really a fan of taking a RB with a high pick unless we are talking Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson. There is no indication Ingram will be near the player either of those backs are in my opinion so I'd much rather pick up a back later in the draft.