March 25 (5:00 PM): New #1 in town … The Buzz coming out of Carolina is that the Panthers may have begun to lean toward taking Missouri QB Blaine Gabbert with the first pick overall at the 2011 draft ahead of Auburn QB Cam Newton. Not that Gabbert is yet a lock, but right now he simply looks like the safer pick in terms of both his skill set and character. Not that Newton is expected to fall all that much if he isn’t the first player chosen at next month’s draft. Buffalo G.M. Buddy Nix, for example, whose Bills have the 3rd pick this year, says he likes them both. In addition to a scheduled visit with Carolina in the coming weeks, Cincinnati will be at Auburn for two days next weekend for two days on on-field workouts with Newton and then will have him to Cincinnati for a visit. Newton is also scheduled to work out for Minnesota and Miami and has visits planned to Denver, Buffalo, Cleveland, Tennessee, and Washington. Interestingly, though, neither Arizona, which picks 5th this year, nor San Francisco, which has the 7th selection, are currently on Newton’s travel agenda… Speculation continues to bubble around the league as to which is the team that reportedly has already offered Philadelphia a first-round pick for QB Kevin Kolb. The early guessing was Seattle and Pete Carroll and the Seahawks made no attempt to deny interest when asked about the rumors. Several sources are now saying, though, that Seattle is not in fact the team. The other leading ‘contenders’ to be the mystery team in question are Minnesota and Miami which have the 12th and 15th picks respectively. Both the Vikings and Dolphins, though, are also among the team’s ost actively checking out this year’s rookie crop of QBs. Indeed, Vikings’ head coach Leslie Frazier is on record saying that he would prefer to draft and develop a QB if he had his druthers, while the Dolphins will be at private workouts for both Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert this weekend… http://www.gbnreport.com/draftbuzz.html
Yeah I read that too ... hmm. Kolb and their 2nd round pick for our 1st and I'd think about it ... not sure about that though. Straight up for our #15 = no way
Hell to the F'n no. You want to think about giving up our first for a 2nd and someone worse than Henne?
Want? No ... think about it? Yes ... Henne's confidence is shot IMO ... ruined by bad coaching and poor coordinating. Can't see him ever being a good QB. If Daboll were to fix that ... I'd proclaim it a miracle. As for Kolb being worse then Henne ... can't disagree more. Kolb has gotten 5 meaningful starts in 4 seasons to show what he can do. Two starts in games 2 & 3 of 2009 & three in 2010 when Vick got hurt. The rest of his playing time has been mostly mop up duty or in games where the 2nd & 3rd stringers played entire game at end of last season in preparation for playoffs. In those 5 starts he was 3-2 with a 97.5 QB rating. I'll be the first to say that he has never looked coming into a game after an injury. But in games he started that meant something, he has only had one bad showing against Washington last season. Again, not saying I'd make the trade ... but I wouldn't completely dismiss it either.
Not sure where you got those numbers from. Last year he basically had a 2-4 record with 7 TDs, 7 INTs, 76.1 rating.......... And that's in Philly's QB friendly offense. Verse our only common opponents, Tenn & GB, he lost....... and lost to Tenn miserably. (Kolb was down 14-3 at halftime vs GB.) Henne won both. For his career, he has 11 TDs, 14 INTS, and a 73 QB Rating with a 3-5 record if you count the Washington game and the first half of the Packer game where he was down 14-3. (and he has an extra year's worth of experience over Henne?) Kolb would be backing up Henne in Philly's offense.
Yes, Henne has more experience 19(Kolb) games vs 32(Henne) games plays = a lot more experience. But like I said, I am the first to say he has never looked good coming in mid game to replace an injured starter ... but in games where he got the reps as the #1 guy in the week leading up to the game he has played some really impressive football. Kolb has more time in the NFL but not as many games played as Henne ... so yes, Henne has a lot more game experience. The Packer game he was knocked out with a concussion. I can't knock a guy for getting hurt. He started games 2 & 3 of 2009, 3 games of 2010 after Vick got hurt, the GB game you mentioned where he was getting killed, and the Dallas game at the end of the season where almost no starters played ... the rest has been mostly mopping up in big wins or losses. Henne didnt start nor finish the Tenn game ... Pennington & Thigpen did ... so not really his victory. We won that game because of big plays on defense more then anything Henne did. Henne's two TDs drives were from the Tenn 31 & 13 yard line after the D forced two fumbles. The one FG drive we had was his one good series of the game. The rest of the drives were failures before he got hurt at the end of the 3rd Qtr. The Green Bay game was an OK effort by Henne. But Rogers was coming off a concussion and they were missing a lot of defensive starters due to injuries. If we had played them with a healthy squad I really doubt we win that game. Backing up Henne in Philly's offense? Irrelevant assumption bro. There is no way to validate that as anything more than opinion ... not a statement of fact. In what little data there is on Kolb is he has shown an ability to play great football as a starter and struggle as a backup ... those are the facts. There is nothing to indicate he is worse then Henne as a starter. If anything I'd say Henne has more data on him that he doesn't have "it" while Kolb has yet to be given anything close to an extended opportunity to start for a team. He has been stuck behind two really great QBs in Vick and McNabb. There is not anything I can fault him for other than not being as good as those two guys. Synopsis: We might as well agree to disagree ...
He started 5 games in 2010. Why do you make every excuse in the world for Kolb but disallow the same issues for Henne? When during the last half of the season did Henne have ALL of his starters in? He DIDN'T! The Oline was a disaster and 6 practice squad guys saw time at WR & TE. I seem to recall Henne playing the last game with ONLY 2 starters at WR & TE combined, with the rest being---- practice squadders. Gimme a break will ya. Now you're just reaching. Pennington played 2 snaps. The score was 20-17 with Henne, who was 19/28 for 240 yards and a TD. He gets the win, not the guy (Thigpen) who comes in afterwards and adds some points onto an already existing lead while only throwing 6 passes. Cmon now. It seems like you'll go to any lengths to justify your hatred for our QB. GB was injured all year. "great football as a starter"? He has a losing record as a starter. If you can say he looks great b/c he's looked great "at times", then I'm saying Henne's a great starter b/c he's looked great at times, too. Again, nice of you to make excuses for Kolb and glorifying him will burning Henne at the cross. If Chad were afforded the same opportunity in Miami that Kolb is in Philly, then a lot of people might be singing a different tune. Look at all the weapons, speed, and playmakers Kolb has to make him look good and allow him to succeed, and then look at the complete opposite for Henne. One's a QB friendly offense while the other is a QB's nightmare.
The Kolb news is potentially distressing. Philly's offense is one of the most QB friendly in the league. I wouldn't trade more than a 3rd for Kolb (maybe) unless the trade included Andy Reid.
thank you. A voice of reason. lol. I'd much rather use a first on Ponder than Kolb IF #15 is going towards a QB.
Just agree to disagree man ... lets not waste each others time. I posted my facts based on actual game data ... but you aren't going to accept it because invalidates your argument. So its a pointless debate ... just let it go
Kolb, eh? Sure, if he’s part of a package. Kevin Kolb, Mike McGlynn, LeSean McCoy, Quintin Mikell, and Andy Reid sounds about right.
