http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=64727 The magnitude of the problem is beginning to dawn on the fans in the puke green jerseys.. "Oh yeah, Cromartie will play for 3.5 million this yr.." With 8 child support payments to make? He'd have to get a part time job to make ends meet..and it grows funnier from there: "Each guy we cut creates a hole, the rookies will have to play at a high level quickly" Uhm, because they may need them to play at a high level does not mean they will play at a high level..as in the case of Vlad Ducasse. or "Say the cap is 140 million.." Err, that would be a problem as 1 billion additional dollars will be taken away from the Cap if the owners have their proposal enacted, divide 1 billion by 32... That is 31 (roughly) million dollars that will be shaved off of the cap making it around 100 million per team..
There is no way in hell the salary cap will be 100 mil. Save this post if want. Not going to happen. sent from my EVO 4G
Where else will the owners 1 billion dollar clawback come from, that is what is at stake, in fact even the Dolphins are slightly over that 100 million dollar mark. I see the whole "the owners want 1 billion more in their pockets" has not quite sunk in over at Jetsland just yet..
Here is something that I found on what the salary cap numbers were for the 2010 season: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...alary-cap-numbers-if-there-were-a-salary-cap/ Based on those figures, the total salary cap number was $3,921,300. You are saying that it will be 100 mil per team, or 3.2 billion for the entire league. I just can't see that. First off, only 4 teams spent less than that (Cards, Jags, Chiefs, Bucs). The league average was $122,540,625. The Dolphins were in the top half at 123.8 mil. Now you are talking about players taking a MASSIVE paycut AND being asked to play two more regular season games. Riiiight. Any idea how you get last year's team from 123.8 mil to 100 mil? What happens when you actually have to pay a QB? If Henne takes the next step, is he going to play for $800k? If he falls on his face, what veteran are you going to sign that gets paid what Henne does? Every team in the AFCE spent more than 100 mil in salary cap dollars last year (according to PFT). Seriously, Padre...your predictions of doom and gloom regarding the Jets is getting old. You are like the guy that claims a team will lose before every game, are wrong for 6 straight weeks, and then when they finally lose you exclaim, "See! I was right!" For the last time, shouldn't we wait to see what happens with the CBA before we start assuming salary caps and how far over teams are? That would make sense. For all we know, there might not be a 2011 season.
The only place that money can come from is the players BB, now they could claw some of it back in the form of a Rookie Wage Scale, however after the Rds 1-3 picks the cost of drafted players is not enough to make a huge dent in the owners 1 billion dollar demand. The average fan has no idea what exactly the owners are proposing.
That is what the owners are selling to the players, that the clawback will go towards new stadiums which will then generate more revenue for a higher salary cap. Of course the fact of the matter is all new stadiums will do is increase Owners Franchise value. But to your point, the TV contracts are already signed, the revenue pool is as large as it is getting for the next 4 yrs unless Expansion happens.
Well, it appears the owners are attempting to do so via taking an additional 1 billion off of the table as well as pushing FA back 1 yr for 1st rd picks, that also will create more money for owners. What I find funny is the owners themselves control the purse strings already, if they do not want to spend, they do not have to spend, so all the cap is doing is equalizing say the Jets with the Browns in terms of what they have available to spend, think of it as putting teams on allowance. There is also a line of thought that revenue sharing needs to happen as well, however the owners would prefer to clawback the money from players rather than eat their own.
Adios Antonio "you my daddy?" Cromartie.. And Hunter is also a FA which means Ducasse will more or less have to play in 2011, along with Slaussen. With Brad Smith also likely to pull stumps that means three real strengths of the 09 and 10 Jets, Oline, Coverage Corners, and Special Teams are facing uhmm..Changes. Kyle Wilson, Joe McKnight and Vlad Ducasse are not close to the quality of players that Hunter, Cromartie and Smith were during those playoff runs...and it will grow even worse as financial reality sets in on Tannenbaum, and trading a #2 pick this yr for 1 yr of Cromartie does not look so sharp this time around as the draft nears. Small wonder the Jets are trying to sign every high pick bust linebacker they can lay their hands on as soon Thomas and Taylor will be gone as well all of those yrs of having basically no draft picks is coming back to haunt the Jets Franchise..
It's funny how Cromartie sucked and was allergic to tackling when the Jets traded for him and now if he leaves, we they are losing an All Pro corner. This thread just keeps on delivering. I honestly prefer the straight forward smack attacks from the likes of Fin D, Frumundah, etc. to the passive aggressive, duck behind a wall drivel that you post. Really, Padre. Talk about setting yourself up. God forbid the Jets have a more successful season that the Dolphins next year, considering they are rebuilding and losing so much All Pro talent, it will speak volumes of the job the Miami brain trust is performing down there. If Miami does not finish with a better records than the rebuilding Jets, then your team is a complete failure. Can we agree on that?
Hey now, it was jets fans themselves that created .gifs of Cromartie ducking a chance to tackle Shonn Green in 09's playoff game, he wound up a Jet and is now "indispensible". Talk to your bretheren BB..oh, that's right, no problem you cats will just sign Nnamndi... Is that before or after you trade 2 #1's for Haloti Ngata? Why Bickety, whatever do you mean? My jibes are meant in the spirit of competition, and they are probably hitting the mark so to speak, whether Jets fans care to admit it, or not. May as well add Tony Richardson to the list of starters who will be departing, if Hunter is looked on as a starter then he is a FA as well, that is 2 more to the 9 already on the "could be leaving" list.
No - you are going on and on about speculative scenarios. You did it all year. Sanchez was going to be an interception machine. Sanchez was going to wilt in the cold weather. The Jets were going to collapse in Dec. Miami was going to run the table and beat the Jets for the wild card. Thiggy was going to save the day. It goes on and on. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but you swung and missed all year. The bottom line is that none of us know what is going to happen until happens. We have no idea what the salary cap will be or what the CBA will look like (well, you seem to think you do). But you want a head start and choose every doomsday scenario you can come up with. You do it to bust balls. I say let's wait and see how it plays out. And if the Jets end up with a better record than the Dolphins, then you will have no choice but to admit your franchise is an utter failure at this point. That's not me saying that. That is the groundwork that you have layed. Everything that you have posted leads to the conclusion that the Jets are going to be a) rebuilding and b) losing many key contributers from the last two years. Yes or no? And if Miami can not produce a better record, while in the FOURTH year of their rebuilding plan, then the franchise has failed miserably. You just ducked that issue. Don't duck it again. Yes or no? And Tony Richardson? Come on. He is older than me for Christ's sake.
If the Jets lose the water boy, Padre will spin it to be the biggest personnel loss in Jets franchise history. And for what it's worth, I agree with you. If losing Cromartie means a chance to keep Holmes AND Edwards, then I am all for it. Cromartie is average. He excels at certain things and is horrible at others.
I think Cromartie is a great straight line athlete and has some really exceptional athleticism. The problem with him is that his technique is not good at all IMO. He's very sloppy and he will have mental lapses. I know Rex Ryan was a big fan of his coming out, so I wasn't surprised to see them trade for him. Rex Ryan said Cromartie's FSU Pro Day workout was the "best workout I've ever seen". He was big and ran fast. However, he is high cut and lacks short area quickness, two big things that CBs can't have IMO. Kyle Wilson should do a good job there if he ever figures out the technique. He's dirty, physical despite his smaller stature and he's more willing in the run game even though he sometimes will get washed out.
What is the point of chatting with opposing teams fans if you do not bust their balls? Where is the fun in not busting chops? Besides, to paraphrase Rexxy : "Not here to kiss your ring"..not that the Jets have any rings. Just one more name in the pile BB, they think they have his replacement in John Conner, whom I liked coming out last season, but it is one more question mark.
I expect a steep downwards trajectory now that Sal "the tripper" Alosi is no longer with the Jets. You'd be crazy not to, two good Starting Wr's vs a decent Corner Back is a no brainer, heck a 6th rd pick can come in and play Cb to start the yr, finding a Wr to do that just does not happen in the NFL, Rook Wr's have a tough go of it at first.
This leaves the Jets no room to sign anyone. I know you guys don't believe it, but you still have quite a bit of needs... DE RT OLB FS CB possibly WR possibly RB possibly (LT blows) I'm guessing the salary cap is going to be around $130mil. If they are $30mil under that before free agency, they are screwed. They have Harris, who will be franchised, which puts them $20mil under before the free agency. How are they going to be able to bring back their best players, sign draft picks, and fill in needs through Free Agency? Btw, you better hope NY brings back Braylon Edwards, because if they lose him and Smith, you are going to have to watch Sanchize try to run an efficient offense with only Cotchery and Holmes.
