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  1. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    Psssst, the Heat wont be playing Boston in the playoffs
     
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    Wow, so the Magic are taking Boston out in the second round?

    I agree BTW...but I want Boston in the ECF.
     
  3. Firesole

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    Nah I have a feeling they'll lose to Chicago in round 1 or possibly 2
     
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    man..I really don't like Chicago that much. Their coach is now benching Boozer in crunch time, he benched Rose the other day for an extended period...

    I see them as 2nd round meat to Miami.
     
  5. Fin-Omenal

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    Knicks will get the 6 seed and Beat the #3 seed Bulls....
     
  6. Desides

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    The Knicks will lose in the first round to the Bucks.
     
  7. Auburn

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    I respectfully disagree, the Celtics successfully held LeBron in check last year. I will give you Wade, but no one in the NBA matches up with him. LOL. But I think with the front line of Perk/KG/Shaq...your frontline of Bosh and a bunch of nobodies will have a very tough time matching up. Additionally Wade has a very tough time keeping up with Ray Allen on his pick and pops, you have to admit that as well. At full strength the Celts have more scoring options than the mighty Heat. And the difference between Rondo and your PG du jour is much greater than Wade/Bron vs. Allen/Pierce...all four are future HOF but while Wade/Bron are better scorers, Allen/Pierce are better shooters.
     
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    Oh, didnt know you thought NY was going to get that high of a seed....thanks for the faith young man!
     
  9. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Yeah really. The Bucks are going to be one of the lowest seeded playoff teams so to face the Knicks in roun one the Knicks would need to win the division over the Celtics...don't see that happening.
     
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    What!? Are you doubting another one of Desides bold predictions!?

    Run and hide big fella.
     
  11. Desides

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    I’m projecting the Knicks-Bucks matchup to be the 4 Seed vs 5 Seed. Doesn’t matter to me which team is which Seed. Knicks are losing that matchup.
     
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    WOW. You think the Magic are the 6 seed? That would be a colossal downfall and they look pretty good right now.
     
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    I think the Magic are the 3 Seed, even after they hit the reset button. (And I reserve the right to change my opinion. Chicago is playing better than I thought they would.)

    My main point here is that I think the Bucks are one of the worst possible matchups for the Knicks in the playoffs, and if that first round series happens, then the Knicks lose.
     
  14. Mrtree

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    I don't disagree that the Bucks would be a nightmare for the Knicks. Any team that bears down and plays tenacious defense will probably beat them and their all O no D system in a series. I just don't think the matchup is very likely.

    The Knicks can beat anyone on a given day if their shooters are hitting, but in a series the D will always grind them down.
     
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    This is moot, Knicks-Bucks 1st rd???

    Their is a better chance of a Seattle K.C super bowl.
     
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    I don't disagree with this. I think the Knicks are looking at a 5 seed and the Bucks 7 or 8.
     
  17. Auburn

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    Knicks are not built for the playoffs...more half court/D oriented. But like the Suns of old, they are fun to watch during the regular season.
     
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    Check Lebron's numbers in that series. You will be surprised. They held NOTHING in check.

    The Heat has played against MUCH better front lines than the Celtics and beat them SOUNDLY. So you get a big buzzer sound for that one.

    and it is time I throw the facts at the myths...I think it is time.

    the Heat is a better rebounding and defensive team. There ya go. Somebody had to say it.

    The Celtics will be so old by May that the series might be a dud. I still think it will be epic, but there is a possibility that it won't.

    The only matchup the Celtics CAN exploit is Rondo. That is it.
     
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    You are still under the impression that regular season and playoffs are identical. They are not, and WE DO NOT HAVE PERK YET, he is a big time rebounder. DO YOU AGREE? The real truth here is you have no idea how this Heat team will do in the playoffs, absolutely none. And you have to admit the Celts dominated LeBron and his Cavs last year, it was a 6-game shellacking. You are super condescending, which to me is interesting and you point to rebounding numbers this year, which are occurring during the REGULAR SEASON, who gives a rats @$$!!! In the playoffs, Perk will be there and he is a beast as a rebounder. You also have to admit that Pierce and Allen are potential defensive problems for the Heat. Bosh does help offset KG somewhat but his playoffs run is unproven at best. Would you at least agree that this Celts team is better than last year's? And stop using the age card, Wade is super injury prone and if he goes down so does the Heat, your team has minimal depth behind him.
     
  20. Desides

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    Why not? The Knicks are locked out of the top three Seeds at a minimum, and the Bucks are a better team than their record indicates—which will eventually change to reflect that.
     
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    The "Wade is injury prone" card. He is not injury prone. Check his GP numbers.

    Again, I am giving you facts, and you keep giving me "You will see...blah blah blah.."

    I know what I know, and I know what I see.

    You are overestimating the Celtics front line. I am not telling you that the Celtics will get smashed in 4 games. I have said it will be a very good series IMO, but do not be surprised if the Heat blow them out due to the Celtics being too injured.

    AGE matters. Teams get old very quickly in the NBA. It happens in one series to the next.

    The Celtics are showing their Age this year already. So if you think they will all of a sudden solve their injury problems by playoff time..then good luck. More than likely, they will be battling injuries all year due to age, which is not a recipe for success.

    usually, health is a huge factor.

    BTW, please stop telling me how the playoffs are different than the regular season. I know. The Heat is built for playoff basketball. If you want me to condescend, I can. I know plenty about the NBA. In fact, I know a TON about the NBA.

    No shame...all runs must come to an end...the Celtics run is soon to come to an end...maybe you can squeeze this year out of it.
     
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    You need a Orlando collapse....

    remember that the division champs get the top 3 seeds

    I see it like this:

    1. Miami
    2. Boston
    3. Chicago
    4. Orlando
    5. Atlanta
    6. New York
    7. Milwaukee
    8. Indiana
     
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    Anyway, to put a bow on this already...

    I think the Heat will win the east. Period.

    Would it shock me if the Celtics beat Miami in the ECF's? No.

    Would it shock me if anybody else beat Miami in the ECF's? Yes.

    What bothers me is that Celtics fans have this attitude as if the Heat has no chance whatsoever in a series versus the Celtics. Which is ludicrous.

    I especially love all these "matchup" questions. Seriously..if there is one team that is a matchup nightmare it is the Miami Heat for the rest of the league.
     
  24. Auburn

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    Facts? Did you watch the Celtics vs. Cavs last year, LeBron was shut down...numbers are misleading at best. That serious was hardly in doubt. We can look at games played, he played in 62% of the games in 06-07 and 07-08. He did better the last two years but already he has missed some time. He is just as likely to get hurt as Pierce and Allen. I will agree with you that the Celtics time is well at its end. But this year I am not sold that the Heat is better. We will see what happens in the playoffs, but you are sadly mistaken if you think LeBron was a solid playoff contributor during the Celts 6-game series last year. You are also sadly mistaken if you believe the Celtics bench to be weak.
     
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    Who would NY face in round 2....I dont recall how the nba playoffs work...IF U CAN BELIEVE THAT.
     
  26. Mrtree

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    I believe Miami as New York would be the lowest seeded team remaining.
     
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    They would face the Celtics I believe
     
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    I doubt the Celtics will be the 1 seed. They will start systematically resting starters much like they did last year to keep their older legs fresh fir the postseason. I think they can hold #2 pretty solidly even with the diminished minutes, but I don't think they want to log the regular season minutes they would have to to compete with the Heat for the 1 seed.
     
  29. Auburn

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    You may be right
     
  30. Mrtree

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    I don't even think they are overly concerned about it as long as they sew up their division. They are willing to travel.

    Of course the easier answer is "a bad matchup for the Knicks" who are in trouble in a seven game series against either team.
     
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    This team is a baby..ONE playoff series win and I'm ecstatic!!
     
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    I think Chicago would be your best draw. The Knicks aren't beating Miami or Boston in seven and are extremely unlikely to beat Orlando as well. I'm not a huge believer in the Bulls though.
     
  33. Desides

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    I forgot about that, thanks.
     
  34. Section126

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    those numbers are skewed by the 07-08 season were he shut it down intentionally. He is not injury prone. Just stop it already leprechan man.

    Lebron james had one particulary bad game in that series. To say he was bad in the entire series is bs. The celtics bench is not weak, it is just not as good as the heat,s.
     
  35. gamblerx

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    lol
     
  36. Firesole

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    I see the magic being #2 unless Miami hits a bad streak.
     
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    Only the most hopeless of Celtics homers can make a case that their bench is as good as Miami's. No more of these myths. Enough with that green Uni getting more props than they deserve.
     
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    The Magic can only get the #4 seed, since they won't win the Div.

    it is actually to the advantage of the #2 seed since they get to avoid the magic in the 2nd round.
     
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    We'll agree to disagree, Big Baby, Shaq, and Nate give them a decent eight, if you think otherwise, well you're entitled.
     
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    I agree with you. It is a very good 8.

    I disagree with the notion that it is better than miami's.
     
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