Merged:Michael Lombardi: Parcells has convinced Ross to keep Sparano

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/12/bill-parcells-has-not-spoken-with-ross.html

Armando's blog where he refutes Lombardi report.

 

Wait till the end of the season; I believe if Jerry doesn't promote Jason Garrett then hes first on the list on Ireland desk.

 

Oh great, more sparano = more wasted timeouts
but most importantly, more field goals!!!

Im still on the fence about him though, while I dont like some aspects of his coaching tenure here, and how he's really failed to improve in many key areas, what I do love is his passion for the game, and for the players, and how the players love him. I'm kind of torn still with this one. Just have to wait and see what happens I suppose.

 

That's a done deal. The only reason he hasn't been promoted already is because of the Rooney Rule, which Jerry Jones has said publicly he wishes would be eliminated.

 

Mine too but his relationship with the Denver owner makes his the choice there. Plus they have two young QB's that he could develop. There is no way he doesn't take that job.

henne has been the same QB for the last 7 years. He has shown very little improvement since High School. What makes you think he can do a major leap? I'll say it again. henne = Jamarcus Russell.

I hope not.

The thing about this story to me is why would Ross even talk with Parcells? He took the money and ran. I think he would talk more with his other friend who's name escapes me (the guy who ran the Chiefs before).

 

Dolphins bringing back Sparano?. . . news article from Yahoo Sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Dolphins-bringing-back-Sparano-?urn=nfl-301748

Enjoy!

 

You're about 14 hours late bro.

 

Carl Peterson

 

Merge!

 

JaMarcus Russell?? You're kidding, right?

Russell's 25 game career- 52% comp, 18 TD, 23 INT, 65 QBR

Henne's first 25 games- 61% comp, 26 TD, 29 INT, 77 QBR

Russell spent 2 1/2 years in the NFL and was out. In his last season he threw 3 TD's and 11 INT's. Not to mention that he was drafted 1st overall in the draft while Henne was drafted 57th overall. Henne is finishing his 3rd year in the NFLand at the very LEAST will be competing for the starting QB position of the Miami Dolphins in his 4th.

Russel was a slob. Lazy. Stupid. Innacurate. Problem child.

Henne is none of those things.

Please, share with us their similarities.

 

I'm not predicting he will but he certainly could. Henne's problems are that he hasnt put it all together yet. At times he does various things well. A few weeks ago, Henne was leading his receivers out of their breaks for a qtr or two before he stopped. At times he gets excellent accuracy. At times he looks off his receivers. At some point he will understand how to attack cover 2. The problem this year was that he couldnt do it for an entire game. He would revert back to bad habits. At some point in his career it will all click for him. If it is to benfit the Dolphins and not some other team it will have to happen next year. Whether it will or not I dont know

 

I concur

I could live with Kubiak as OC

This I've been saying all along...Henne's failure as a QB has been Henning's failure as a mentor and coach.

Again, concur

Have you been watching the Miami Dolphins this season??????? Running the ball????? Uh....WHERE???? Our lack of running the ball this season has been exactly what's been giving Chad Henne his problems!!! Everyone we've played has known that Dan Henning was going to call Henne's number 35-40 times a game.

Need proof of this? Go back and look at each individual games' stats. Games in which we've won, we've run the ball at least 25 times. The games we've lost, we've not run the ball at all.

Besides, running the ball, clock management and having your defense make the other team go 3 and out is the receipe for a championship team.

 

The problem is he doesn't do those things well back to back on any play. He only has a few supporters left and they try to blame the OC or the rest of the players. One of them even said if we gave henne an all-star RB, OL, and WR's he could be good. Every QB in the world would be good with an all-star cast. Russell would still be in the NFL if he had that cast. Henne has mostly taken two steps back this year.

That's what I'm talking about right there. Henne will play aweful as a QB and show flashes of a average/good QB that gives his supporters hope. My comparison would be last year and Paul Soliai. Soliai would play like an average NT and at times would show flashes of an all-pro. Not playing terrible and showing flashes of good.

That's the big question "can he". I don't think he can. If he was playing average and shown flashes of superb play, I would think he could. He has shown me the opposite. Russell had a coach who wasn't afraid to cut his QB because he had another QB he was comfortable plugging in. We don't have the option now that Penny is out.

 

Is it Hennings fault or David Lee's? I think Hennning calls the plays and it's Lee's job to craft the QB to fit the OC. I personally hope both Lee and Henning are gone. If that means we have to get rid of Sparano, so be it. If Sparano is going to insert Lee as the OC when Henning "retires", then I'd say good bye to Sparano too. This team needs a complete overhaul.

The NFL game has changed from when Henning ran his tough run offenses. Even the rules are favoring the passing game.

 

Henne's inconsistency isn't any different today than it was for 4 years at Michigan where he routinely drove fans up the wall.

He is what he is at this point. The problem is, the times he is good isn;t good enough to outweigh the bad times, unlike a guy like Favre.

 

I totally blame Henning for the atrocious play calling but overall David Lee gets the blame for Henne's development. The guy shouldn't be a QB coach at all. Henne has a lot of talent which should have shown through but his footwork is still iffy and his drops are still slow. A good QB coach would make him better. You can't take a guy who was an arm only in college and expect him to do just that. It is called development and Lee has stunted Henne's growth.

Dead on!
Baltimore game and the Chicago game( although it was Thigpen) are classic examples.
Very winnable games and no run support for the young QB.
Henning makes me lose my mind!

 

The only question is when does Henning "RETIRE"?

 

What? Henne played pretty well at Michigan and for a 2 year NFL starter he's played as well as many of the "elites" did in their first 2 seasons.

Please, out of these two College stat groupings, tell me what QB they belong to.

60% comp rate, 9700 yards, 7.0 Y/A, 87 TD's, 37 INT's, 134 QBR

62% comp rate, 11000 yards, 7.8 Y/A, 89 TD's, 33 INT's, 142 QBR

 

Don't matter if he doesn't want to retire he has to be fired and David Lee is gone with him. If Ross decides to retain Sparano it absolutely has to be one of his conditions.

 

I'm assuming one is Henne and the other must be Peyton Manning or some other great QB. Why don't you just tell me?

And those numbers have nothing to do with being inconsistent. Henne showed the same tendency to look great at times, terrible at other times while in college the same way he has in the NFL. You just aren't punished as much for terrible play in college as you are in the pros.

 

Henne and P. Manning

In that order.

 

If Henne looked terrible at times it wasn't much more often than P. Manning looked terrible. If he did the stats would reflect that.

Henne was an accurate, confident, smart, strong armed kid in college. His professional "coaching" has caused him to crawl inside of a shell.

 

And what's your point?

I'm sure we could find a ton of college qB's that had similar stats. How does that have anything to do with performance at the NFL level?

 

Then why wasn't he the #1 pick? Why did this guy, with stats comparable to Peyton Manning last until pick #57?

 

All due respect gentleman but does every thread have to turn into a Henne battle?

 

It doesn't. However, you said that Henne was inconsistent in college. YOU'RE the one who brought up COLLEGE.

Jesus Christ!

 

It seems that way. lol...

 

War Room scouting report on Henne

http://warroomreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=1

 

Because Manning is probably going to be the greatest QB to have ever played. Henne "just" has the ability to be "good", IMO.

BTW, Brady was 199th picked.

 

I didn't read your link. I looked at the MEASUREABLE data. If you were to ask 15 different scouts about a player yo'd get 15 differnet opinions. However, TD's are TD's and INT's are INT's.

 

I'm beginning to think that ANY thread becomes a battle for MarinePhinFan.

 

The reason I place more of the blame on Henning than I do Lee...let me put it in military terms that makes sense to me.

As a platoon sergeant, I'm ultimately responsible for the performance of each and every soldier in my platoon. It's my responsibility to emplace and assign tasks to each soldier based on their strengths and weaknesses, even though these soldiers have squad leaders as mentors, it's MY responsibility. I don't assign tasks to soldiers who aren't ready for that task and if I'm forced to place a soldier in a position to do a task he's not ready for, I assign others to help to accomplish the mission.

Okay, that said...

Henning is the Platoon Sergeant. Lee is the squad leader. Henne is the soldier NOT ready to launch the ball 35-40 times a game. Henning has other "soldiers" ie; Brown, Williams, Police, etc in the platoon to help Henne accomplish his mission, but Henning hasn't done that. He's basically been an *** of a platoon sergeant telling Henne he WILL accomplish the mission on his own.

Good thing this isn't combat, because if it was, Henne or worse, someone else would be killed for Henne's lack of ability and Hennings poor leadership and poor decision making.

 

Would you rather everyone just agree and kiss each other's ***? I have my opinions. You have yours. I will debate my opinions with whomever wants to debate with me.

 

Friend Pagan:
understand your frustration
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posting the thread is not roasting the poster
however
we're all guilty @ one time or another of a heated exchange
it is a good thing to try to limit these negative excursions
Friend MarinePhinFan has made many fine contributions to the board

 

Fair enough but my point being is that David Lee has never developed an NFL QB in his life so he really has no clue how to go about it. In Henne's case he hasn't helped him at all he has only hindered his development . Agree though that Dan Henning is the boss of the offense and the heat definitely should be put on him.

 

Why exactly does one have to be independent of the the other? Pennington is probably done, and Thigpen is going to be a free agent. You're probably going to need 2 QB's anyway.

And the key here is QB prospects that they love. You don't spend extra resources just to get a QB unless you're 1000% sure on him, and you don't do it just to appease a fan base.

 

I find it unbelievable that Ross would listen to the advice of Parcells in this matter. Parcells showed his true colors earlier in the year when he cleaned out his office and basically told Ross that he was finished with the Dolphins. Of course he still receives four million dollars from Ross in 2011, for doing nothing. Now it is reported that Parcells has convinced Ross to keep Sparano and Ireland. This has nothing to do with Parcells trying to do what is best for the Dolphins in the future. Parcells is only trying to save his now tarnished reputation. Because if Ross fires Sparano and Ireland after three years. This will be seen as a failure by Parcells to perform the job he was hired for in the first place. Which was to establish a foundation which would lead Miami back to the top of the NFL. If Ross were to get rid of the coach and GM, which Parcells hired to perform this task. Parcells entire time is Miami would be seen as a complete failure. So in an attempt to not be seen as this complete failure. Parcells, based on one report has convinced Ross to keep Sparano and Ireland. Parcells only cares about how HE would look if everything he tried to build in Miami was abandoned and a new regime took over the team. He seems to care less about the fans who have supported the team all these years. Mr. Ross needs to look at all those empty seats the last three home games if he wants to know how the Dolphin fans feel about the job Sparano and Ireland have done. What Ross should be telling Parcells is. "Take your money and get lost". " This is my team and I don't need any more advice from a quitter".

 

please, end the henne ...
no more excuses
man-up, turn lose
it is over, move on
we will be looking
to the draft or free-agency
to resolve the QB crisis
in the 2011 season
forget about it & stop
@ best, if not traded, he'll be the back-up
The End

 

If you watched the same thing I did this morning then it seemed to me Lombardi was 100% speculating.

Edited to add: My bad, seems like there's more to this than speculation. From what I saw on NFL network seemed like speculation.

 

My thoughts exactly when I saw it last night. Anytime someone on Total Access starts off with " I think......."
It usually is speculation.
That is why I said bs to the OP last night.