Go back in threads two weeks before this day and then tell me where it was leading. I have to credit Pat Kirwan for the thought. It wasn't me but he said it. "You begin to think that you are coaching the quarterback for the next guy. Everybody wants a winner. Winning is the deodarant." Shortsighted? Hell yes. But South Florida has never been known for it's long term planning. Never has been......
Bubble screens.... doesn't work the middle of the field... play action on third and 13.......Polite as an outlet
This. If there is any fan base in the world that should know that having the best QB doesn't mean winning championships it's this one. LT is harder to find than QB. Jake is in his third year and is top 3 on any LT list that I can find, and is clearly the best in the league through my homer eyes. Carey looked ok at LT, until we got Jake. Now look at him. You want Carey back there? You can find a great QB in free agency. I cannot think of one LT. Brees, Warner, Hasslebeck off the top of my head, and two of those guys we chose not to bring in. Name one LT of that caliber that’s been a free agent.
I'm blind. Go to the gamebook. Tell me when the game went wrong. Here, I'll link it for you. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20101...ox-score#analyze-channels:cat-post-playbyplay
ever read the dan henning qb manual Dan Henning QB Manual A quarterback must accept two facts: * Knowledge, self-discipline and concentration lead to consistency. Only careful and sound preparation will produce the results to develop into a championship quarterback. * You will be subject to more second-guessing and criticism than any other player. ***A good quarterback has total control at the line of scrimmage*** Performance Characteristics A quarterback has natural passing, faking, ball handling and play calling ability. He knows and can read defenses. He can throw long and short. He can drill and can soften and throw with a light touch. He sets up quickly without wasted motion. He can pump the ball and look off defenders when it is appropriate. He has quickness with arms, feet and hands. He gets the ball away fast. He has a great arm and mind, a rare combination. A good quarterback always takes inventory of himself. In the analysis of the former great ones at the quarterback position, these qualities very definitely prevailed. They always came off the practice field a better player in at least one of these areas. Having good arm strength to throw over the defense and complete the deep pass really opens up an offensive attack. Huddle Control and Mechanics The quarterback must have total control of the huddle. You must always take charge and have the ability to keep control. You cannot afford to be distracted. Suggestions should be discussed on the sideline, not during a drive. You must stay away from the huddle until the play is given to you or until you have reached a decision on what play to call. Once the decision has been made, move into the huddle, call the play distinctly, never talking too fast, and never lacking authority and assurance that it is the best play. Once at the line of scrimmage, it is important that the quarterback be consistent. He should always do the following, in the same order: * Scan the defense * Put his hands under the center * Go through the cadence properly * Be positive and distinct in calling the cadence Good ball handling is the result of many hours of practice with a quarterback and the running backs who will be executing the play together on game day. The QB-Center Exchange Stance The feet should be comfortably spread, approximately the width of the armpits, with the toes pointed straight ahead. The knees should be slightly bent to facilitate getting away from the center faster after taking the snap. For balance, the body weight should be over the balls of the feet, slightly shifted to the push off foot. The quarterback should always stand tall, with a slight bend at the waist and a slight forward shoulder roll. The hips should be lowered so that the knees are slightly bent. The arms should always be kept slightly bent, relaxed, loose and close to the body. This enables the quarterback to follow the center and adjust to the ball if the center does not hit dead center of the top hand. Hands The upper hand should be pressed firmly against the center's crotch, wrist deep. The fingers should be spread but relaxed. The upper hand should be dead center in the center's crotch, with the wrist fitting the curve of the center's behind, knuckle deep. Pressure should be applied upward. This is the center's target. Make him feel the pressure. The thumb of the upper hand may be under the thumb of the lower hand, with interlacing them an option. The thumbs should be pressed together, or as stated earlier, you may interlace the lower hand thumb on top of the upper hand thumb. The Lower hand should face the center's opposite foot. The fingers of the lower hand should be extended and spread, pointed toward the ground. Snap -- Exchange of Ball The center must adjust the laces before the snap. The QB must get the laces where he wants them when he takes a snap. The QB must keep pressure on the center's crotch until the ball is in his hands. The snap should be as hard as possible by the center. The exchange must be executed with speed. The ball must SMACK into the crease of the upper hand quickly. The center should give it a slight twist so it fits the QB's hands. The ball should be close to parallel to the ground at contact with the rear point slightly upward. If the ball hits the groove of the upper hand properly, you will hear the SMACK. The QB should receive the ball "well up" into both hands. Both hands should be just back of the middle of the ball. The lower hand should be used to trap the ball. When the ball SMACKS into the crease of the upper hand, fold under it with the lower hand. Both hands must follow the center forward. Hand Off As the ball is snapped, pressure should be applied to the center's crotch while turning the head and shoulders to locate the belt buckle or the mid section of the ball carrier. The quarterback should keep his elbows and ball close to the midsection. The ball should be "looked" into the ball carrier's midsection while making the handoff. Faking A quarterback must be convincing when he fakes by having the proper attitude. A good fake can be executed using TWO HANDS, with both hands remaining on the football or it can be done with ONE HAND, with the ball held close to the body with one hand and placing the empty hand against the ball carrier as he fakes by. When possible, follow a fake with your head and eyes. Offensive Huddle Drill Purpose: To give the quarterback practice in stepping into the huddle, calling a play, breaking the huddle in unison, and getting to the line of scrimmage and executing a running play. Equipment: Football Procedure: 1. Offensive team huddles 5 to 7 yards from the football. 2. Coach signals play to quarterback from sideline. 3. QB steps into huddle and calls play and snap count. He then leads the huddle break and moves with the offense to the line of scrimmage. 4. Once lined up, the QB calls the cadence and the ball is snapped on proper snap count, and play is executed. 5. Entire offense, including QB, should sprint to a yard line determined by coaches. Then they should jog back, to the outside, and rehudddle for their next play as another offensive unit is running a play. No defense is needed for this drill Coaching Points: 1. Coaches should be sure huddle is exactly as they want it. As offense breaks the huddle, it should be in unison as determined by coaches. 2. Every offensive player should sprint off the ball full speed. 3. Emphasis should be placed on perfect execution of the ball exchange between the quarterback and ball carrier. 4. QB should always execute his fakes after handing off the ball. Dropback Passing Fundamentals Setting to Pass 1. If you expect protection, you must understand the area we are trying to protect and stay there. 2. The width of the protection area is from the outside hip of one offensive tackle to the another. 3. The depth of the protection area is 9 yards. 4. Setting to pass as fast as possible without losing body control will aid your completion record. It gives you time to look to your receiver and deliver the ball properly with the necessary timing. 5. The key to setting to pass with necessary speed is pushing or driving off the right foot. It prevents sitting out and throws the body away from the line fast. It also enables the quarterback to follow the center on the snap. 6. DISCIPLINE: the key to successful passing. You must accomplish the following to become a top passer: - Read the coverage before the ball is snapped. (Pre-snap read) - After the ball is snapped, push of your key foot, the right foot. - Get away from the line of scrimmage as quickly as you can. - The first stride should be a long one. - At the snap, you must study your reading area. - You must use the proper footwork to fit the route run by the receiver in order to obtain good timing of the throw. - After reaching your setting spot, if the receiver is not open, move up into the pocket for additional protection and time. - Be certain to read the underneath coverage as the flare action (back swinging) may be your best receiver. - Throw or run at first daylight. - 7. Our setup areas vary according to the type of pass (route or pattern) being thrown. It is measured in length of stride: - 1 and 2 (3 steps) - 7,9,4 (5 and 2) (7 steps) - 8,6,3,5 (3 and 2) (5 steps) 8. The ball must be held chest high and with two hands. Unless the pattern requires pumping the ball, pound it into your left hand. Keep the ball chest high and in both hands, ready to unload quickly. 9. Steps in drop must not be longer than can be controlled. 10. Setting up in the pocket must be done as quickly as possible. 11. Break your sprint back with the right foot and get cocked and ready for delivery. Make a move into the pocket. 12. The key to good passing technique is to drop off to the required distance with intense speed. Set up to pass in a good balanced position. Keep the ball chest high: hold the ball with two hands prepared for a quick delivery. Stay in the pocket and be oblivious to the rush. Put the ball in the air at the proper time with the proper speed and trajectory. Accomplish this and you have it made. 13. Types of Footwork on delivery: Hit -Throw. The basic throwing footwork is to push off rear foot, step with forward foot parallel to target and throw. Hit- Hang or Sit- Throw. Hang or sit on a plant foot, and after hesitation push, step and throw. Hit-Shuffle-Throw. When you need more power, push off rear foot and shuffle along target line, then throw. 14. Make your move up and out- never around. This will result in a big loss. You must avoid the big loss. Second and ten is nothing. Second and 20 kills us. Wandering off and running around rushers hurts us, and more especially, you. 15. If you don't like what you see and can't go to your outlet, run-straight away. Coaching Points for Play Action Passes 1. You must be willing to take a shot at a touchdown from anywhere on the field. 2. You must script and practice the play action pass you will use from various field positions: backed up inside own 5 yard line, +50, +25 +5, goal line, etc 3. Our best play action shots come off our three basic run plays: Counter Gap, Inside Zone, and Draw. Use your best-run plays to set up your play action pass game. Good draw fake will freeze linebackers. We have a great deal more variety than this, but these are three plays that have been very productive "shots" for touchdowns on mix downs. http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...at&cd=17&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
how in the hell do you win a football game when you run 9 god dam times!!!!!!! We have ricky williams and ronnie brown! You people are clueless
Why it's spread don't you know.?.?.? I mean Robert Horry just linked a video of the Florida/Michigan bowl game where CHAD HENNE had TWO interceptions and told me that it's EXACTLY what we need to be doing.
Apparently they thinks he has all that because he was the starting QB. But they changed their minds in one week. This staff is on crack.
Just talking about this same point with a Steelers fan this morning at work. The best franchises show patience even through a tough year and give coaches and players time to develop. They also have the advantage of not having new ownership like we do.
That's not productive. Now the link is right before you. Show me senile. Show me undeniable proof that this man should be committed to the insane asylum.
Because non-franchise LTs can't pass protect? It's a shame some fans will buy into anything a new regime sells even if it goes against common sense. You do not pass on a franchise qb when you need one. Jake wasn't a bad pick but considering our QB situation back in '08, as of 11/12/10 he wasn't the right pick. We "needed" a franchise LT you say? The last ten SB winners: 2009 N.O. Saints LT Jermon Bushrod 4th rd 2008 PIT Stealers LT Max Starks 3rd rd 2007 NY Giants LT David Diehl 5th rd 2006 IND Colts LT Tarik Glenn 1st rd (19th) 2005 PIT Stealers LT Marvel Smith 2nd rd 2004 NE Taintriots LT Matt Light 2nd rd 2003 NE Taintriots LT Matt Light 2nd rd 2002 TB Bucs LT Roman Oben 3rd rd 2001 NE Taintriots LT Matt Light 2nd rd 2000 BAL Ravens LT Jonathan Ogden 1st rd (4th) Jake is a future HOFer. That's great for the franchise, we can add another to the list. But what about the ultimate team goal? Someone made a comparison about having a stud LT but a shaky qb is like having the military guarding your garbage can. Even though it's at our expense that was funny as hell. Gotta laugh to keep from crying. Anyway, we had Carey at LT. Why not keep him there for a year and then draft a LT in the following year?
I don't even see why some think that Ryan would be a success here. He could have fell flat on his face for all we know. Success at situation A (team A) doesn't equate to success at any given situation (team).
well one of the things that Henne has to work on is this part of Henning's philosophy 1. You must be willing to take a shot at a touchdown from anywhere on the field. Henne simply is too gunshy to do it though at this point in his career. Next time he starts he better start taking those shots
you run when you're ahead or when your behind but the defense has proven its capable of stopping the other teams offense. The Ravens didnt punt once in the last game. It became pretty clear ealry on we were going to have to pass to try to stay in the game
Geez that thing has to be old. Generally, notes like that come from coaching clinics and you seldom find any coordinators on the clinic circuit. They make too much money already. I just scoured glazierclinics.com to find one. All I could find was a few in LA. http://www.glazierclinics.com/tabid/261/Default.aspx?cid=305
They have groomed Henne to be Pennington and play safe. Yet they throw 35 times a game. I will agree though they need to take more shots.
I am sure the colts would be fine without manning.Hell they would be a 5 win team at best.Qbs don't make a difference at all.
you are not the only person to say that and for the life of me i dont know where that comes from. jake delhomme used to wing it to steve smith 30, 40 yds down the field on a regular basis. doug williams was doing the same in his SB. I think people are mistaking the grooming of a QB where its sort of like the marines where you break a QB down and then build him back up. Trust me Dan Henning is not a thorw everything in a 20 yd box type of coordinator. If that's what our offense is doing now its due to the QBs abilities and not Henning's wishes
Jake Long was pretty much the safest pick in the 08 draft. If we took Ryan at #1, and he turns out to be a David Carr or Alex Smith, while Jake Long is the best LT in the game, we would be making the same argument about who we should have drafted.
I look at you list and see that 3 of the 7 teams won with FA pick up QBs, and that most of the LTs on there were probowlers.
Brees is a franchise qb (unique situation - SD gave up on him, drafted rivers, light came on) TB & Bal won w/ outstanding defense. Just because they had journeymen qbs it doesn't mean that's the norm. You don't pass on franchise qbs and we had a chance at two in the first round. We even had ammo to trade back in the first and trump BAL for flacco.
Or, since we are going with hindsight, we could have picked up Brees with no draft picks spent. You also don't pass on HOF LTs, if Jake plays as he has with no improvement (and he's gotten better) he is a probowler until he retires and in the HOF. Ryan hasn't played at a probowl level yet. As for Brees being unique, Kolb anyone? It's to expensive to pay two "franchise" quality QBs. They'll have to keep Vick next year as he'll put more butts in the seats, so Kolb should be on the trading block, or he'll be a FA and they will get nothing, much like Shuab and Vick. Vick (though I wouldn't want him on my team for moral reasons) could also be a Dolphin right now, for no draft picks. Great QBs are available, great LTs are not. Why is that?
Seriously? Not allowed to fail in Miami? Tell me, just how many seasons did Dave Wannstedt get allowed to fail? And even when he left, the owner didn't WANT him to go! Cam Cameron only got fired because Huizenga brought in Parcells, who wanted his own guys in place. If Sparano loses his job it will be because Parcells left and our new owner might want to bring in another football guru who will want his own guys. Miami does NOT have an impatient front office. You're making the leap from what you consider to be impatient fans to impatient decisions, but the reality is, internet message boards have almost no effect on the decisions of the front office.
Believing & saying "passing on Ryan & Flacco was a mistake" has nothing to do with hindsight. Maybe for you. And who says Kolb is a franchise qb? Again, Jake is well on his way to an HOF career. Great. What does that do for the qb position? They didn't take advantage of the 2008 draft. Not having a great Lt doesn't set your team back the same way as not having a great qb. I'm sorry but every draft doesn't offer a qb who can eventually lead your team to a "ship." But bet your *** you can find a pro bowl LT just about every year (even if you have to trade). If all you want is HOF LTs who besides Jonathan Ogden on my list is going to Canton?
Let's not forget Aaron Rodgers. Everybody forgets that one. Nick Saban picked ronnie and Rodgers slid all the way to #24 because he was a "Tedford QB", Whoops!
It means Stafford may never realize his potential because of all the punishment he is taking because even though they had a chance to draft a franschise LT later on in the round, they passed for a TE.
Why is everyone speaking for Imeister3? So let me get this straight gilv13, because DET chose Stafford and he may end up injury prone, teams from here on out should not select qbs over LT? Is that what you're saying. That one example trumps a trend?
