I think this trade is being over-analyzed a bit. We essentially traded the no.4 receiver (albiet beloved), who didn't play special teams for a decent nickel CB who is solid on special teams (which we obviously need) because our slotted nickel guy has a balky knee and his backup is a rookie.
B/c Cam never made the great catch. He catches everything he's expected to catch. Drops are a subjective stat but in general are only counted for passes that hit both hands and the receiver doesn't have to make any great effort to get to. That's why when Chris Chambers was here we'd complain about two drops per game but he'd end the year with 4-6 total drops. Bess made several great catches on poorly thrown balls. If he had missed those they wouldn't have even been called drops, but he made them and the team benefitted. So Cam is more consistent, but Bess makes more of the difficult catches. IMO it's debatable which is/should be considered "better".
IMO most detractors are basically saying, "they traded a guy I liked for a guy I know nothing about, therefore it must be a bad trade".
Tough to say without a known value. Assuming room = X though, then the square root of this room = (X)^(1/2).
While I agree with that statement, I think what we see in Cam is the opposite. On poorly thrown balls he has no chance. He never flashes that great ability. Sometimes you see Bess make catches that are just jaw dropping once you see them in slow-motion. You see where he comes out of his route and where the ball is placed and you realize Bess saved the QB on that play. Bess is a player that can make the QB better. You can't say that about Cam. What you can say is that if it's a good pass, he'll catch it. He won't make the QB look bad, but he's also not going to make the QB look good.
I just traded Camarillo for Sapp on Madden. Sapp was inserted as one of my gunners on defense and upon the first punt, he mollywhopped the return man, forced a fumble that was recovered by Miami and thus, ended the debate about this trade...
i dont recall any games where we were absolutley blown out......so i think its fair to say they were mostly during crunch time....or atleast when we needed them.
I suppose we'll have to just disagree, as I see what you're saying, I just don't think a number of 4th quarter catches translates to a player being clutch.
i could be wrong, but i actually think the thing i saw was 10 first down catches in the 4th quarter last season.....which imo is the definition of clutch if true.....when i get home from work ill be able to double check that though.
Cam, 2009 4th quarter 18 Cth 192 yards 0 TD's 1 over 20 yards 10 were for 1st downs Ted Ginn 4th quarter 2009 16 Cths 252 yards 1 TD 3 over 20 11 were 1st downs Maybe this helps the argument NFL.com was the source
