The Infield

That is the truth, but what does that have to do with the dirt infield & the bi*ching about the Marlins that takes place ?

 

Well I dount they will do anything about it because of the expense. It would only be for one more year.

 

so do I , so what

i guess marino loved every freakin piece of it...

honestly, who gives a damn about baseball

i still dont believe that in this technology years that no one could invent something to cover that ****ty infield for the game, there must be something out there

 

I was responding to the idea that we shouldn't complain about the infield b/c the Marlins are a good team and that people should love the Marlins. IMO it's irrelevant b/c baseball is becoming irrelevant compared to football.

 

No, actually I am not a Baseball fan at all. It is not my sport its too boring to watch and maybe if you play it that would be okay. I am born and raised in South FLA and if people really liked the Marlins so much I think they would make an effort to go support the team even if it is 30 miles from the closes Big City. The Marlins tickets go for about 15 to 20 dollars a ticket in the 400's section. And yes Joe Robbie has 74,000 seats but when ticket pricing is that low you would think more people would try going to the game just to support their Marlin's team.

IMHO I do not think that the Marlins really have that many fans unless they are winning which then the leaching bandwagon fans come along. When the Dolphins went 1-15 all but one game was blacked out. Games only get Blacked out when the game is not sold out. That means that the other 7 home games were sold out so CBS or who ever was showing the game can televise it.

 

those games are so skewed its not even funny. most of the time the owner or the TV station buys the remaining tickets so they can broadcast it.....dont even try to tell me the dolphins have every seat packed every game....because we can easily go back and see a flood of orange empty seats available.....

there are plenty of marlins fans, i am and have been since the begining, and there are more like me. But i was living in west palm beach (wellington) and it was about a 50 minute drive, not worth it if there was a possibility of rain out.....once that roof goes on, attendence will go up. the team is brutally young.....there are plenty of kids that will grow up in south florida being marlins fans....gotta give the team time.

 

And your opinion is based on nothing but conjecture. The fact is that while Marlins game attendance is low, their local TV ratings are high. People are following the franchise, just not going to the games. I like the Marlins but hate going to Sun Life Stadium, even though it's just a few miles from my house. Sitting there in the middle of summer is unbearable.

As for your other point, a good number of people who bought tickets for that 2003 playoff run were bandwagon drones, but the majority were people who were already following the team.

Easily. Our groundskeeping crew is excellent. They'll have the field ready to go without a problem.

 

Peanut butter spread on the infield.

 

sounds like my saturday night....

 

...not cool.

 

There is no way they can do a 1 day turnaround on the turf and make the field SAFE.

 

Considering that not only is the field modular, but that they've done it before... yes, they can.

 

There are also three teams in southern California and another one within the very general vicinity of the Dodgers. And you ABSOLUTELY can turn people's allegiances. How else do you explain the uptick in Angels fans in the past decade? I don't think Chuck Finley's fastball was wowing people who now grew up and financially supported that team. They turned people through great marketing and winning. Just like anything else, winning cures all.

You are also talking about an area where basketball is king. From UCLA to the L.A. Lakers, Dodgers baseball is well behind those two teams and is certainly behind USC football as well. At best, they are the fourth most popular team in the area, yet they somehow manage to draw a big crowd year in and year out, while other teams with less local competition and have been more succesful in terms of championships won, still can't seem to draw anyone.

But again, I really don't care as to why the reasons the Marlins can or cannot draw people to watch their brand. I hate the football field when it shares with baseball, and we have experienced plenty of shanks, miscues and injuries to warrant this being a concern. Yes the solution is put in place, yes in two years it is no longer a problem and yes, until then it will still be an eyesore and cause me to hold my breath everytime someone changes directions while switching surfaces.

 

There's a chance the game against the Pats won't have the dirt, since it's the day after the Marlins final game. They work quick.

 

The heck with the Marlins and the heck with baseball. I have never forgiven them for the strike in 1994 and I have never watched a game since. Baseball should have folded up in '94 for all I care. So to have to deal with that dirt infield and the crappy stadium layout because of baseball is just insult to injury. No amount of rent or concessions proceeds is worth that crap from that crappy joke of a game.

 

Suspposedly they can but I an guessing if that is the case maybe the Pats game will have the dirt infield afterall.

 

Maybe to you, and maybe to the majority who visit this board, but its still EXTREMELY relevant to others. There is nothing quite like having the World Series in your town. Everyone is buzzing about it all day, for more than a week. It beats the Super Bowl, hands down.

 

Then how about the labor strikes in the NFL ? Have you a problem with those ? Get ready dude, expect one in the near future. It will be either the owners locking the NFL players out, or the players refusing to play without a CBA. That is happening in 2011, unless something drastic happens. Are you ready to forgo your Dolphins games if this comes to pass ?

 

I say it every year this subject comes up.
I'm not a Marlins fan,so I want them out.
It wouldn't matter if I was Marlins fan either,would want them to leave anyway.

THIS IS A FOOTBALL STADIUM ! GET YOUR OWN PLACE !

 

actually you are wrong, joe robbie made the stadium for a baseball team as well

 

If you had brought Joe Robbie into the future and shown him what a cluster**** that would cause, he'd likely say, "oh, no - **** THAT, then!"

 

I remember when I was 7 going to a Marlins game in their inaugural season. I made the jumbo tron. Watched both of the championship runs. Ill always have a special place in my heart for the Marlins and Ill miss their presence at Joe Robbie, despite me no longer being into baseball like when I was a kid.

 

Yes I am. I have better things to do, ultimately, than support a bunch of people, Players and Owners alike, that make more money than any of us will ever see, who can't find a way to equitably divide a huge sum of money.

I am hoping it will not come to that.

 

There's no question that Robbie intended it to be both, but there's also no question that the rest of the country believes that such a combination just results in a lesser football stadium and a lesser baseball stadium. The vast majority of the complaints at Dolphin Stadium from football fans, the poor field and the distance between the fans and the field, are related to it's baseball component. And likewise the empty appearance and lack of intimacy as a baseball stadium are the result of the football component. I would think that if Robbie could have seen the future, he would realize that was a mistake. Maybe it was the only way to get a team here due to his finances, so there was no choice, but the reality is that both fan experiences are hurt by it.

 

Compared to football, every other sport in the country is irrelevant. Super Bowl XLIV drew 106 million viewers. Hell, it passed the series finale of M*A*S*H to become the most-watched television event ever.

Talk about stacking the deck.

 

Wasn't soccer also considered during the stadium's design?

 

Correct.

Joe Robbie envisioned multiple sports played at the stadium. Admirable, but Miami never bids for the Olympics and no one cares about Miami's MLS team, so it's wasted.

 

Dude, don't you get it, the Marlins have a new place that's being built right now, and will open in Apr 2012. So what is the point of your post ?

 

Well he really truly made it for soccer & football. He used to own or have part ownership in the old Ft Lauderdale Strikers. He built it because he believed that soccer would make it big one day in the US, and that a World Cup would be played here as well.

This is the reason the stands are so far back from the field, because the standard soccer pitch is about 15 or 20 yards more across.

But baseball was only an afterthought actually. It was always speculated it could be refitted for baseball and then Huizenga did just that in 1992, after he had sole ownership of the team and stadium. But he had to have engineers come up with a plan from scratch, that part I remember, and that is what a bunch of the tax credit he got went to, was the actually planning for the retrofit of the stadium for baseball.

 

Oh and the greatest of irony's is that we indeed did get the World Cup in the US, but alas because of the Marlins we did not get any World Cup games in JRS, but instead they were played in the Orange Bowl.

 

Because we can't post in the future, so we are complaining about the eyesore that it presents to us currently.

 

agreed, so people should be pissed at joe robbie....not the marlins....

Sucks for you.....i can...

 

People should be pissed off at the city of Miami. The Marlins have been trying to get a new stadium for years, but the city hasn't been as willing. Had they been, the Marlins could have been out by now.

 

And soccer

 

Well the Marlins were supposed to be gone from Sun Life years ago. Remember when Wayne proposed "Blockbuster Park" in Pembroke Pines ? That was 1996 I believe. Its been since then that the Marlins owners, be it Wayne, John Henry or Loria have wanted a stadium for the Marlins.

Also blame has to go on current Red Sox owner John Henry for all this mess. He was the Marlins owner between 1998 and 2002, and he said he would build a stadium himself, and then when pushed he claimed to not have enough money. Then 3 or 4 months later, he ponies up $ 700 million to buy the Boston Red Sox. BIGGEST SPORTS OWNER A-HOLE EVER. He could have built a stadium for the Marlins and spent enough to make them a winner, yet abandoned them to MLB which in turn gave the Marlins to the failed owner of the Montreal Expos, a man so ******ed as an owner, the Expos had to leave Montreal and go to Washington.

 

Buncha wimmins.....

(j/k)