Rumor denied-Crowder possibly Out for the Season

Don't make Padre school yall.

 

He's taking off the gloves....... ala Pat White

 

well i guess we need to hire killerphins and padre in our front office, cause they obviously know something about crowder the guys who gave him a nice contract didnt see

 

Difference between White and Crowder is one has literally thousands of snaps in the NFL and has started for 5 yrs now, it is obvious what he is.

White had 52 snaps at Qb and 5 passes.

If you cannot tell the difference then you can be convicted for mopery.

 

LOL Pads, he was referring to you! Not Pat/Crowder...

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0MQf8Hr-z4"]YouTube- Channing Crowder meets Mike Bell[/ame]

 

I could be wrong but so will the ESPN Crodwer Game Log for 2008... it does not show him out, like his Game Log for 2009 does...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=8484&sYear=2008

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=8484&sYear=2009

So if Im am wrong I take what I said back...

 

Nah, I was trying to see if JS recalled the classic scene from Revenge of the Nerds where the desk sgt tells them "see that man, he was arrested for mopery"

 

So Rotoworld saw Crowder was out for the season albeit on a game from last year? Uh derr, it's July, of course the news at the bottom isn't new.

 

oh noezzzzz crowder was being blocked and 2 guys 400+ pounds knocked him down! he sucks! dobbins is better! better hide the kevin muwai dominating zach thomas videos.....cause people will start thinking ZT sucks

 

Padre, take a look at Crowders 2008 season.

 

lol... Pads, you should be arrested for how badly you missed that joke

 

he will counter with dobbins starting 2 games being better......even though he wasnt even starting but 2 games!!!!!!!

 

Like I said in a previous post, since there is very little going on with the team right now there has been a flood of truly daffy news articles out there.
Ah, the power of the idiots in the press. . . . . .

 

A lowlight reel for Crowder is much longer than the highlight reel.

Dallas Clark toasting him is a painful memory.

Heck, I'd bet Wilson's crap games coincided with Crowders



Crowder



Wilson's, though the Gerbil finished strongly, per PFF, the first 3 games he and Crowder both weren't very good, we dumped da Gerbil...

 

Sect we have been through this before... and I am not in an argument, I have stated where the stats of this team without Crowder is not as good as it is with him...

Now can they be better with better talent???

Now Sect, I and others might be tired of seen Crowder get stood up time and time again by a every Running Back when he blitzes...

 

You need to watch the whole vid Sick. Crowder got jacked by a third string RB on the 2nd play.
Putting Zach's name in comparison to Crowder is um ridiculous.

 

im not comparing them. i am saying you using 1 or 2 plays to prove that he is bad is ridiculous.

 

Yes but the front office gave Wilson a nice contract ala Crowder so the must know better.

 

so instead the chart makers do. thanks! can you sign something for me since you will be a nfl exec soon

 

I have, as the argument in favor of Crowder has been "but he had a great 2008 season!"

Well, no, it was typical Crowder:



Wow! Amazing!

Not really, we had that 1-15 schedule in our favor that year, his best games:

-NE, that was the WC game
-Houston, which featured the highest rating he has ever had via PFF,
-wk 11..a wretched Oakland team

His worst games

wk 17, against the Jest for the AFCE Title
wk 12, 2nd patsies game

We just did not play that many teams that were even good that yr Rafi.

Now compare that to Jerod Mayo's chart:



Notice wk 10? A slightly below average performance for Jerod Mayo, but it was against the Colts, notice what Crowder's number was against them?

-2.8 wasn't it? Crowder graded out twice as bad vs the Colts

There are reasons why I'm not a huge Crowder fan, I do like him, like his backstory, his father was an NFLer but he came up really poor.

 

That is all I could find on You Tube.
Stop by my place I could show you a highlight reel.
He gets schooled every Sunday in one way or another. The FO resigned him hoping for structure and it didn't happen. Said it before he has a motor and that is it.

 

wait......did you just ask me out?

 

I saw that coming a mile away after I hit that submit button.

 

Exactly. It did buy a little time which is now up.

 

The same excuse can be used this year that you used. This season we had the toughest schedule in the league, so struggles were expected. And he wasn't even that bad.

What I don't understand is all the love for Dobbins. He wasn't even a starter the last two years, and all of a sudden he's going to replace Crowder.

 

That chart you posted was for his overall rating not run defense. It seems nonsensical to post overall stats and then claim they prove something about run defense. And in 2009 he also played injured. If you want to see see his rankings when he's healthy you'd have to go back to 2008.


http://profootballfocus.com/PlayerBar.php?id=2287&season=2008

If you do you'll find that there were only two games in which his overall rating was in the red. And if you're talking about run defense then there was only one game where his ranking was in the red. You should probably reach for the LOL (whatever that means) and apply them to yourself for posting nonsensical stats.

 

They drafted Edds to be the nickel LB on third down to take Crowder off the field on 3rd down because his coverage stinks. They also know Crowder has health issues which increases the need for someone else who could start. Dobbins wasn't a throw in on the trade. They had been looking at him for a quite some time said coach. Do the math.

 

Already posted, we played a 1-15 schedule, and his worst games were against the best teams we played ie "in the red".

And his numbers against the run are all he has Rafi, he can't cover anyone and he was healthy all of 2009 he didn't injure his foot until week 15, so what's the next excuse?

Yes indeed lol kitty appears:

 

Obviously Dansby was signed to be the coverage and big play guy, while Crowder will be the banger going after running backs and blitzing. That's how Nolan's D works (Ck did a beautiful breakdown of Nolan's scheme, if you haven't read it).

 

That simply isn't true. He was only in the red in the run game once that was against Buffalo. I'm not sure when you decided that was the best team? Overall, he was only in the red twice, once against NE and once against the Jets. Now if you're paying attention you probably have noticed that we play our division opponents twice every year. And since he was only in the red against the run once and overall twice, that would mean that he played better against those teams the other time we played them.

And anyway that's why we brought in Dansby to be the cover guy. When healthy and used to his strengths than Crowder is anything but a liability, in fact, he's an asset.

In 2008, he missed one game, week 16. Our run defense in that game allowed 180 yards rushing. Our average rush yards allowed in the other games that regular season was 96.

In 2009, he missed 2 games, week 8 and 9. Our run defense in that game allowed 127 and 109 yards rushing for an average 118. Our average rush yards allowed in the other games that regular season was 114.

In both years we played better against the run when he played. And when he was healthy that difference was significant. I'm not sure why you think we should count his play when he's injured and discount it when he's healthy? And I don't feel like running the numbers now but IIRC we actually played better running teams in 2008 than in 2009. What killed us in 2009 was that we played better passing teams and our pass defense was considerably weaker.

 

You do realize in the KC game in 2008 the defense only gave up 3 points in the second half. Without Crowder.

On a different note when Crowder sits...Torbor replaced him. We all know Channing was better against the run than Reggie. That skews the whole argument of CC not being in there to me.

 

It is quite true, he played decently against teams that were .500 or below that season, against teams with winning records he was not that effective and it was the same thing in 09.

Basically, when Brady came back in 09 Crowder's performance tanked, even in 08, he had a good first game, though it could just as easily be said it was a very green Matt Cassel as the reason.

If one recalls the KC game, Charles had two long runs early in the game that accounted for their high rushing totals

And as your stats show, Crowder wasn't missed in those two games as a 8 yd difference is statistical noise.

As for "when he was injured" he started 15 games in 09, didn't he start 15 in 08 as well?

 

Some posts have been deleted.Please refrain from making personal attacks.

 

At least Sick and Killer had a love connection..

No offense meant to anyone in all of this, it's been a long, hot, stressful summer but we are inching towards the 30th and Training Camp opening which will finally provide something of substance to chew on.

To be clear, i'm not a fan of Channing Crowder's game, imho we could do better, but we could also do worse, and I think it is pertinent to point out that 6 of the players on the back 8, Taylor, Porter, Akin A, Torbor, Wilson, Jones, are no longer phins, only YBell, Culver, Crowder, Smith, Davis and the two Allen's are left of the players who had significant snaps last season, that change over could easily be an ongoing process this Camp and Preseason.

We just weren't good enough in the movement positions on Defense last season.

 

I think judgement has to be withheld on Crowder until this season is done. The biggest reason for that is because I believe the defenses he's played in previously have been too passive for his style of play to be effective. He's as mad as a hatter and as vicious as a junkyard dog, more than anything he needs to be pointed in a direction and be allowed to destroy anything in his path.

Nolan's defense is all about penetration and overwhelming the defense, then capitalizing on the subsequent panic by the offense. You know all three linemen are going to be coming, you know at least one OLB is going to be coming, and more often than not at least one ILB is going to be coming. That's going to force offenses out of three-plus receiver sets unless they like multiple sacks and turnovers.

 

Funfact: The reporter who made that mistake was the Jets Beat writter, so yes even Jurnalists associated with the Jests are no smarter than their fans.

How the hell he confused the ESPN Crawl on the old footage with the NFLN cawl is beyond me.

NFLN: Blue

ESPN: Red.

If Mark Sanchez can understand color coding I'm sure this dumbass should be able to.

 

expect something from Channing tomorrow.

Everyone thinks he is out for the year because of the blunder...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38194326/ns/sports-player_news/

this may end up being as good as the gun in the truck

only that was true

 

Actually he was the third highest rated ILB in the league in 2008. He didn't just play well against the bad teams. He played well all year.

And he played injured almost all year in 2009. I believe he got hurt in camp, but I definitely know he was hurt by late October.


THE MIAMI HERALD
Posted on Sat, Oct. 31, 2009
Miami Dolphins LB Channing Crowder doubtful for Sunday



Although middle linebacker Channing Crowder missed all the practice reps this week as the Dolphins installed their defensive game plan for the Jets, coach Tony Sparano said he doesn't anticipate any problems with Crowder being mentally ready if his left shoulder is ready to go Sunday.
``You always worry about a guy being prepared mentally if they don't practice,'' Sparano said. ``But from Channing's standpoint, I don't worry about that stuff. He is smart enough mentally to be one of our coaches.''

Crowder's physical readiness, on the other hand, is officially ``doubtful,'' according to Friday's injury report. Statistically, the Dolphins' rush defense is hampered greatly without Crowder, allowing an average of 168 rushing yards over the past five games he has missed. And when he missed the second half against Oakland in 2007, the Raiders, after running for 101 yards on 25 carries in the first half, ran for 198 on 24 carries in the second half. The Jets come in with the NFL's No. 1 rushing offense, with consecutive games of at least 300 rushing yards.

Sparano explained Friday why the overall defense drops off so much without a player who rarely gets a sack or interception, or causes or recovers a fumble.

``Channing makes a lot of tackles,'' he said. ``The guy is all over the place, and when he is not making tackles, he is not a selfish player. In other words, he is giving himself up so somebody else can make a tackle, one way or other. If he is supposed to spill something, he spills it. If he is supposed to send it out, he sends it out. The guy does a bunch of those things, but he is also the quarterback out here.''



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