Boom I love you mate (well not in that way) and I respect the amount of hours you put in for OUR benefit, to make our research easier, however I don't see it....people tell me I'm blind though so we will see....
I guess I'll have to watch him play if Boomer is head over heels for him So what is Baldwin the second coming of Fitzgerald?
simon thank you . your opinion means alot around here . that is all i wanted at the end of the season . nice work as usual keep it up brother.
I guess your right plus he had the advantage of running on a track surface. I wonder would he run faster on water?
Dez Bryant is this year's Darren McFadden. A player that doesn't match what this regime wants in its players yet many still think they might draft him. Ain't gonna happen folks. Plus we have too many needs on D to gamble on Bryant.
I don't recall anyone thinking we'd take McFadden at the 1st overall pick. I'd say Dez is closer to this year's Vontae Davis (in how it relates to us) than try and compare him to McFadden.
Davis is a good comparison actually. A guy who we werent really rumored to be high on, had a 'questionable' personality, was not a 'parcells guy' - but a true physical specimen. I would be excited to have Bryant. Among everything else guy is a red zone machine. We need to make sure Henne has the tools to succeed, and a kid like Bryant would really help. Id love to grab him and then grab Jimmy Graham in the third (or second if we can trade to the later part of the round) then focus on D for the rest of the draft. Bryant, Graham, Ricky/Ronnie, Hartline/Bess. What a nightmare to defend that would be.
Definitely would make our offense exciting to watch. WE have plenty of underneath Receivers getting a legitimate vertical threat would be amazing.
Thanks Boomer. And yeah I think he is going to be a hellva NFL player, if we don't get him I just pray the Pat or Jets don't pick him up.
Hard for me to believe that Carlos Dunlap slips to the 2nd rd. I know your not high on him, But I think he is gone somewhere in the 1st rd. Reports are that Haden just ran a 4.46 on a wet surface. I think that should answer questions on his time.
I think it answers questions about how Haden runs on his home surface. He's not a 4.43 runner on film by any means.
Would have to somewhat depend on the teams picking, but if hes Fitz/CJ good its definitely possible. With the league turning into a passing league WRs are high value. Even though there are some nice WRs coming out next year, there is no guarantee we will be in a position to draft any of them, which is why passing on Dez would be a mistake imo.
Not to disagree with you, but the NFL isn't "turning into a passing league," it already IS a passing league. Has been since the 1980s, if not earlier.
Won't do any good FS, I haven't seen mancrushes like this since 07 and Brady Quinn and no argument to the contrary, health, divaness, the good possibility of a contract holdout, will matter.
All this from a guy who wants a tight end who hasn't played football for 2 years, has a knee problem and can't block.
In a year that a Qb will be taken #1 overall with inseason shoulder surgery after twice injurying the joint? Absolutely
Yep. Ever heard of Drew Brees. Gresham has had at least one ACL and possibly two and won't have played a meaningful game for 20 months on opening day. That's not value. And the Bryant/ mancrush is nonsense. As for Brady Quinn, I seem to remember a lot of people wanting BQ. And what? After 12 games he's not good enough? Please.
He was a second rd pick. So Bradford's 3 and Bryant's 2 count against that 20 months stuff as well? What would that put them at? 18 months without a game? He had an ACL as a HS senior, clearly he recovered fully..and that was his left knee, his right knee was a menescus issue from what I've been able to dig up. ' I've yet to see a single drop of objectivity aimed towards Mr. Bryant Boom, it's very much like the Brady Quinn frenzy of 07, no warts with that one, he's an All Pro from Day 1...
I respect your opinion, and Im a fan of Gresham as well, but this is just crap imo. Bryant has some issues, but they are being way overblown by people hoping we take a short armed OLB or an ILB who wouldnt be on the field for 3rd and long just because we "need defense." Bryant DOES have #1 game changing potential, and no amount of baggage will change that - true or hyperbole as it may be. There is nothing wrong with wanting a player of his caliber on this team.
I could see them taking Clausen now but I don't think they do after investing in Wallace and Delhome. I think they go QB later in the draft. Is Haden worth the 7 pick? I don't think so I think Haden slips a bit on draft day they could go OL but I doubt they reach unless Okung is there. So they could go BPA which would be Bryant IMO.
Bunk and you know it, padre. People here like Bryant because he can be an elite player at a position that Miami has sucked at for years and years and years, a position that not coincidentally is very important in our modern pass-oriented NFL. We have a young QB who could turn out to be a franchise player, but to deny him good tools would be to stunt his growth and inhibit his potential. (No, a TE who could be very good is not an acceptable substitute for a WR who could be great.) And just to cover all the bases, while we do indeed need to improve our defense, that does not automatically mean the offense should be neglected. If he falls to #12, Dez Bryant will automatically be the best player available, unless Suh, McCoy, or Berry fall to #12 too. Bryant is better at WR than Gresham is at TE, Thomas is at S, or Graham is at DE/OLB.
I agree but it's all coming from the anti-Bryant crowd. He has never torn apart a locker room or made any outrageous comments to the media yet he's T.O. He has never been implicated, accused, arrested, charged or convicted of any crime yet he is Moss or Marshall. He hands the ball to the ref after TDs yet he's attention craving.
Spiller is possible there as a change of pace back/ weapon x to be paired with Cribbs. Imagine Cribbs and Spiller together in a wildcat. Holy ****.
Most of us wanted Quinn, indeed. And as for Bryant, I am never sure what to believe as the draft approaches. Is he engaged in a fantastic image-rehabiliation campaign right now? Yes. Is it all true? More true than a year of 'rumors' leaking out? Who knows. Can he play? Yes. Will he make it to #12 anyways? Nope.
I agree. I doubt he is there at 12. If he is, I'm still torn on what I'd want to do. If his character issues have been blown out of proportion, Then I say draft him and watch Henne and the offense get better. I just want to know why Bryant was at Pacman Jones workout. IF he's hanging with that clown, forget it.
Assume he is there, and "play" GM.. Dez Bryant-Wr is not as high of a need as OLB. But would improve the offense So the question then becomes: Who at #43 compares to the OLB/DE talent available at #12 AND is a better prospect to play in a 3-4 Defense than a NT at #43? Or Safety? Or Te? For example, if we drafted Dez Bryant at #12, the draft board at OLB is reduced by 4 to 6 OLB/De's who will be drafted from #13-#42. And that is the opportunity cost to selecting D Bryant, to compound the complexity, they also have to project the other Wr's they may draft, for example "if" Dez Bryant is 98% of what we needed, Brandon Lefell would be 80%, is that 18% trade off in projected upside worth it?
The question really is whether we can get a better OLB porspect at 43 or a better WR prospect. A month ago I would've said take someone like Graham at 12 and then Demaryius Thomas at 43. But it's starting to look like Thomas won't be there at 43. Also, I don't agree that OLB is a higher need than WR. Our WR corps consists of a bunch of #3 and #4 WR. If anything I would call it equal.
Will be very interesting to see what direction Denver and Jacksonville go in. Both have very similar needs to ours. I think if Marshall is dealt, it may very well be a draft day trade. Pick Bryant at 11 if hes there, trade Marshall to Seattle for 14 (actual number may be wrong, their second pick whatever it is), then take the best defender at that spot - McClain/Thomas(E or D)/Mays/Haden/Morgan. I dont know how willing they will be to trade Marshall without knowing if Bryant will be an option or not. They also to my knowledge have not made any moves for WR during the FA period here. Considering after Marshall its Eddie Royal coming off a major sophmore slump and an aging Stokely...
You said it much better than I did. The 09 defense was one of the worst scoring defenses in Dolphins history, as bad as the 07 defense, they will address an upgrade imho. One of the reasons why I like Earl Thomas ( and D Morgan) is Thomas at least could play in nickel and dime packages from Day 1, his cover skills are good enough that he is also being looked at as a Cb.
I agree about the defense. I think I would rather see us go DB at 12 instead of OLB. But I still can't get past the glaring need at WR. I can't go aonther season with Ginn as the defacto #1 WR. I love guys like Cammy and Bess but they are what they are. What they are not is #2 WR, which is what they are being used as.
