The Official Miami Heat 09/10 Countdown to Contention Thread.

I'd hate to get rid of Beasley.

 

Crazy, twisted thought... if the Amare deal goes through, would you take Caron Butler and Gilbert Arenas in a JON deal? Washington would not hesitate. They're trying to blow it all up, especially Arenas, Butler, and Jamison.

Oh the potential for that team next year is breath taking. Friend of mine heard this idea on the radio today; I think he said Ira brought it up. Not as a rumor, but as an idea. It tags along with a rumor, though, with that being Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood in place of Gilbert Arenas.

 

Every time I read into this more and more, I'm saying goodbye to Beasley no longer as a gut feeling, but as a wishful feeling! I want Amare down here right now. I'm convinced. I think it keeps Wade satisfied for the moment by being able to make a second or third round push, and it prepares us much better for the summer as well as piece #2 is already in place. I want this deal to go through now. Love Beasley, but he will NEVER fit this team UNLESS Dwyane Wade leaves... let's face it (you already have, I know, you've convinced me).

I'm off the Bron / Bosh talks as of right now, though. LeBron is staying in Cleveland. Toronto is playing well enough, IMO, for Bosh to highly consider staying put. He loves Canada.

In addition to Amare, I'm cool with one of Johnson, Gay, or David Lee. No one is really mentioning Lee, but he compliments Amare's game to perfection. Forgot he'll be unrestricted!

Some other decent (cheaper) options that could be had around mid-level money or less:

- Brendan Haywood
- Ray Allen
- Raymond Felton
- Josh Howard (very happy to see him having the worst season of his career; Dallas won't pick up that team option and he'll come cheaper than his ability)
- Marcus Camby
- Joel Przybilla
- Shannon Brown
- Luke Ridnour
- Channing Frye
- Steve Blake
- Travis Outlaw
- Kyle Korver

We could fill in the roster pretty well. Spend big on a big man, sign a Josh Howard or Travis Outlaw. Spend big on a small forward, sign a Przybilla or a Haywood.

I refuse to list Carlos Boozer. Do not want.

 

Thats not good.

 

I'd bet some cash that Steve Blake ends up here if we don't land a better PG via trade.

Riley has been trying to get him on this team for years. Almost had him via free agency; almost had him via trade several times. Rings a bell with so many former Heat transactions.

 

I don't know what the Celtics have to offer, Big Baby? I think Josh Howard/Haslem works straight up, which I would be fine with

 

Celtics have been trying to move two players: Ray Allen and Big Baby.

They'd have to part with Perkins to get Ray Allen, though. And I'd give them some draft picks in that deal, but the Celtics would lose interest.

From Portland's perspective, think Travis Outlaw / Steve Blake. Again, no on the Haslem front, but that's PROBABLY the best offer we'd get for UD.

I'm pretty sure Dallas is talking Josh Howard... but no.

We can sign Outlaw, Blake, and Howard out right in the summer for mid level money or lower.

 

I'd be willing to move Haslem to Portland for a deal that involves Bayless, but it'd have to include more. When is Przybilla coming back?

If Przybilla was healthy, I'd do a Haslem + Cook / Chalmers for Pzybilla + Bayless + Outlaw / Webster / Batum deal.

Basically, any deal that includes Haslem to Portland has to net Miami one of those young 3's. I'd involve Chalmers to get Bayless.

 

Apparently Ferry and Kerr will be negotiating all weekend, and if nothing gets done, Cleveland will strike a deal for Troy Murphy. It is widely believed that there is already something in place with Indiana for Cleveland; it's being put on hold to see if they can land Amare instead.

This leads me to believe one thing and one thing only... Michael Beasley was never truly offered. There's no way Phoenix would pass on Michael Beasley at $4 million + cap space for all expiring contracts. It's $4 million, and a 21-year old potential all star that is already a proven 16/7 player. You can't tell me J.J. Hickson is more enticing as a prospect.

I would laugh my *** off if Cleveland lands Amare, gets owned in the playoffs, LeBron leaves, and Amare opts in. I don't know, though. They'd instantly become the heaviest favorites in years.

On the flip side... does Amare going to Cleveland eventually push Bosh out? His only chance to EVER win a title in his prime would be to join forces with Wade in Miami to try and take down Cleveland. That would make for epic playoff series after epic playoff series year after year after year. LeBron / Amare / Williams vs. Wade / Bosh / Beasley? (or whoever we trade him for). If David Stern has any influence, Amare ends up with Cleveland and Bosh signs here in the summer.

 

Flip Side: If I am Dwyane Wade and Cleveland gets Amare and Bosh stays in Toronto, I sign with Chicago. Just saying...

 

And give up 20 mil?

 

Yep.

There is nothing Miami can do to compete with a Bron / Amare / Mo-Will trio without adding Bosh.

Not to mention Kobe / Gasol / Bynum / Odom / Artest on the other side.

 

I really, really, really hope we land Amare. My current dream is trading for Amare, signing Johnson, Gay, or Lee, and begging Steve Nash to sign a 2-year deal to win a title.

If Cleveland decides to take on J-Rich, however, then forget about it. I wouldn't go that far.

 

iirc, i think nash signed an extension and isn't available.

 

"my dream" would be bosh, gay and keeping haslem. then hopefully we can draft a legit pg with the two first round picks. i'm still not big on trading for amare.

 

Repeat after me "Max Contract...MAX Contract"

A theory I don't particularly buy into btw.

Now what if that did happen, but Riles decided that Beasley was "the" building block?

How much cap space would then be freed up?

 

Suns insider on their RealGM board (he's reliable; gave a scoop on both Shaq deals before the media did - not sure about anything else, as I don't pay attention to their board unless it involves Miami) says that Miami has the edge in the Amare sweepstakes. Cleveland's proposal offers more cap flexibility, Miami's proposal isn't far off in terms of cap flexibility, and also offers much better talent (Beasley).

EDIT: I find it kind of interesting that the majority of the Suns board DOES NOT want Michael Beasley! In fact, some would prefer Hickson. Of course they have no say, but lol, that's kind of funny. I don't know how this compares with actual executives, but based on reading around, I've found that most fans around the league do not like Michael Beasley as a player at all. Kind of odd.

 

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/1479429.html

Ignore the politically correct crap about not involving Beasley in the talks. We have to say that in case nothing goes down and he remains a Heat. Everything else has been said already, but I found THIS to be very interesting:

Likely targets based on our needs/wants + availability:

Phoenix: Amare (Beasley)
Memphis: Gay (Beasley)
Houston: Pass
Portland: Jerryd Bayless, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, Martell Webster (hell, entire team aside from Roy, Aldridge, Rudy, and Oden) (Haslem)
Charlotte: Ray Felton, D.J. Augustine, Tyson Chandler (Haslem)
Sacramento: Pass
Boston: Ray Allen, Glen Davis (Haslem)

Guessing that a few of these teams are being brought up in talks as potential third parties in other trades, i.e. a partner to jump in and pick up Jason Richardson. I'm only making this assumption because Cleveland is trying to find a third team to get involved with their Amare pursuit to do so.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305

What a cluster**** of a team Steve Kerr is running if the best he can get for Amare Stoudemire is J.J. Hickson.

 

Well if Amare/Shaq didn't work in Pheonix, no reason to think it would work in Clev.

 

Now we need to get the guy another Finals MVP.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the player has no say in where he's traded. So just because Amare wants to be here doesn't mean he will be here.

Though I'd package Beasley for him immediately.

 

False report by that ****ty outlet we all know as the Miami Herald. It's already been cleared up by several media outlets around the world, and Amare even chimed in HIMSELF on Twitter to clear that up as false. Miami Herald is an embarrassment.

We're still Amare's preference, but he simply isn't opposed to joining Cleveland. It's not really his choice, though. I do genuinely believe that Steve Kerry DOES NOT LIKE Michael Beasley, though. He is NOT well liked or sought after around the league at all. If Miami likes Amare, IMO, we'll have to find a third team to take Beasley and give Phoenix more preferable talent. Either that, or maybe Kerr comes to his senses and realizes the fact that Beasley is the best player he's being offered.

If Philly offers Iguadola, that deal gets agreed upon right away. If not, I see Amare going to Cleveland. Don't see him coming to Miami although I'd be all for it.

 

Also, anyone see how mad and jealous LeBron looked last night when Dwyane received his award? Not to mention how SELFISH LBJ played in the 4th quarter to try and outscore Wade to the MVP, while Wade and Bosh stuck within the team element. LeBron basically shot the West back into the game. Not a good look at all! I question his ego playing with Wade, but I don't care. I want Bosh.

 

At least pretend to look happy for your "buddy" *******.

 

Section 301 row 1.
March 4th, Lakers v Heat.
My first basketball game.
WooHoo!

 

And you guys wonder why I call him LeFraud.

Wade, Bosh, Amare. Let's do it.

 

Good explanation, thanks. I'm a very casual NBA fan, so I really don't know how the contract system works. I wasn't sure if there was a right of refusal going on here.

So Amare's preferences mean something in terms of whether or not the team he's traded to gets appropriate value for him by keeping him longer than his current contract. Makes sense.

Too bad he's shot down the "no Cleveland" thing...

 

Well, how does Shaq's contract expiring effect the Cavs moving forwards Sect?

They could rent Shaq, sign Amare and LeBron as well?

 

Congratulations, bro. I'll be there. You should enjoy it. Kobe should be back to full strength by then.

I can't even remember my first basketball game... O'Lord. I was like three. We sucked!