The Official Miami Heat 09/10 Countdown to Contention Thread.

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  1. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Dude...WTF else do we have on the bench?

    He played Wade 12 minutes straight. he got his rest when Allen and Garnett got their rest.

    we have nothing else on the bench.
     
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    BTW HD, SPO did what you wanted him to do...He put Dorrell On Rondo...

    Rondo used him up like a rubber.

    If it were a fight, they would have stopped it in the first round.
     
  3. High Definition

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    As I stated many times in the past, it is clear that you DID NOT read any of my posts in that discussion. You just went on and on and on defending Spo at all costs.

    And this is proof...

    I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SUGGESTED DORELL WRIGHT ON RONDO.
     
  4. High Definition

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    Anyways, this team is approaching the 50 game mark under .500 -- pretty sad.

    Personnel isn't all that needs changing and that is very obvious to me. Very.
     
  5. Section126

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    That's right...you wanted Wade on Rondo.

    That didn;t work out so hot either.

    Last night was on Beasley. I think he bet on Boston.

    This team lacks scoring and all of our younger players except Beasley have regressed BADLY.

    Fouling Rondo with .03 seconds left in the half and giving him 3 FT's? jeeeez.

    That Thornton trade on draft day is making Riley look bad lately.


    Our bench needs an overhaul, and you can tell that Riley was thinking the same thing, with how he structured the team.
     
  6. High Definition

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    Another MVP like first half followed by a D-League second half against Cleveland for Wade...

    Hopefully we miss the playoffs. I'd rather get lottery talent. This team is destined to be swept (we suck just as much at home), and that would be embarrassing.
     
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    Seen a rumor somewhere where Howard might head our way.
     
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    I'd pay you to pay the original poster of that rumor to pay the starter of that rumor to pay who he heard it from if true.

    No way in hell it happens, though.
     
  9. High Definition

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    OH! Lol... yeah, I read something about "Miami or Toronto" on RealGM earlier in the week. I'd rather not if he's not expiring. I'd rather not either way, maybe, as he'd probably require Haslem. I'd do it for James Jones, Cook, and a pick or something, but Dallas wouldn't.

    We're also now 1-7 in our last 8; SWEET! I don't get how we suck so bad.
     
  10. Big E

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    IDK why either...but I can tell ou what I see. JO looks old, Q looks like a bum Beas looks like we drafted him too high...this team just isnt meshing.
     
  11. Section126

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    ???

    JO Just came off a 25 and 16 performance. He shows up with a great game every 3 games. he is what he is.

    Beasley was drafted in the correct spot. He is developing nicely, his game does not mesh with #3. Que is a rotation player playing too many minutes because we have nobody else.

    They are the least of the problems. In fact, they are what is good about this team.

    This team has structural problems and a bench that can't help the team win.

    If we had a halfway competent bench, we would have the 5 seed by about 4 games now.
     
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    If we lose tonight we're going into the break 5 games under .500

    I did not even see this possible at any point in the offseason or once the season started.

    Good job, players and coaching staff.
     
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    OMFG I think we're going to get a win.

    Hey look at Dae Dae warming up for the 3 point shoot out. I forgot he even left Ohio State.
     
  14. Section126

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    so we beat up on the Rockets by 33.

    we got the second of a back to back tommorow night.

    you KNOW what that means......
     
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    Sect and myself went round and round about this happening, but I though JO would play better due to the contract yr and also that Alston would provide a spark and it just has not happened like that so far.
     
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    I saw that.

    Bye Bosh or LeBron... and bye to whatever third option Beasley could net us via sign-and-trade.

    Getting Amare and losing Beasley is an epic failure. It puts Miami on the Atlanta Hawks caliber. Nothing more.

    BTW - Adrian W. is the most trustworthy basketball source on the net.
     
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    HOWEVER... If I know Pat Riley this is a three way deal that includes Beasley, JON, and Jones or Cook and brings in Amare and say, maybe Caron Butler. Maybe Kirk Hinrich.

    If this is a two team deal we CANNOT include JON. He's all we have left. We'll have to swing a second deal to use his expiring to get us a Caron Butler or Kirk Hinrich + Salmons, because we won't be able to use him (expiring) in the summer. Chicago is desperately trying to unload Hinrich and Salmons; they want a shot at adding a top free agent next year in the worst way. Do we help them, knowing that Wade will be their primary target? If it makes us a contender which makes Wade happy, then the answer is yes.

    G - Hinrich / Alston / Chalmers
    G - Wade / Cook
    F - Salmons / Q / Wright
    F - Haslem / ?
    C - Amare / Anthony / Magloire

    That's a pretty damn good team. Needs one or two pieces to win a title, though. Wonder if Chalmers can net a PF or C. Boston is offering Big Baby for D.J. Augustine, HMMM!

    Might still have enough cap space to sign a Brendan Haywood in the summer, which drops Amare down to PF and Haslem coming off the bench.
     
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    And yes I still have the biggest man crush on Kirk Hinrich out there... he's the perfect compliment to Wade in the backcourt. It doesn't get any better unless you're talking superstar.
     
  20. Section126

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    not really. it makes it easier to get a lebron via a sign and trade especially if Amare opts in.

    the bird rights games we can play especially if we dump James Jones would do wonders.

    I do not support dumping Beasley and not getting a point guard.

    he is our piece to leverage a team into giving us a front line PG to go with Wade and his MAX partner.
     
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    I know for a fact that Cleveland would never be willing to do a sign-and-trade deal with LeBron.

    I was talking more on the lines of Bosh, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, etc.

    We don't have anything to offer those teams via sign-and-trade without Beasley.

    Still, moving Beasley for Amare is a failure unless it's a three team deal that nets us one or two more starters.

    EDIT: My bad. Completely forgot and overlooked the bird rights thing. Forgot we'd now own Amare's. Imagine Joe Johnson or Gay with Amare and Wade.
     
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    With all of the names being discussed from Miami's side, if this is a two way deal, there must be one or two more names popping up from Phoenix's side. Would not mind Barbosa; would definitely mind J-Rich. I hate Jason Richardson as a player with a passion. Absolutely.
     
  24. Desides

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    So much for standing "pat" and waiting for the offseason. :pity:

    Then again, LeFraud was never coming to Miami in the first place. Bosh, however, would be more than welcome.
     
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    I think Beasley is not long for this team one way or another. Either he's the key component in a trade for Amare now or Bosh later, or we outright sign one of those guys and trade Beasley for help elsewhere.

    While I love Beasley's potential, I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off taking Mayo just from a team construction standpoint
     
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    Think about something.

    Trading Beasley and Dumping James Jones would save another 9 million in cap space.

    If Amare opts in, there is a savings to be had int he mere fact that there is an extra roster spot and Amare would come with Bird Rights.

    Amare, Wade and Bosh? pretty strong. Strong enough to put that Laker front line to shame. I hand the trophy over right now with a front line of Amare and Bosh with Superstar Wade in the back court.

    That also is not taking into account that players will throw themselves at us for the MLE. We can end up with a starting lineup with 3 current and one former all-star.
     
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    Season tickets.

    I'll be good with Wade, Amare, and Joe Johnson or Gay. But Bosh?
     
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    Iggy is a pretty interesting option right now as well if we move Beasley for Amare without parting ways with JON. Philly is really trying to unload him for an expiring; I'd take Iggy + Dalembert off their hands provided we already have Amare in place.
     
  30. Section126

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    Pretty impressive win last night.

    Kick the crap out of Atlanta in Atlanta in the second of a B2B?

    best win of the season.

    I was surprised they played so well.

    This game among a few others tell me that keeping JO to play with a Bosh or Amare in the front court, should be a priority.

    Beasley looks further and further out of our plans.
     
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    I remember lots of hand-wringing before we drafted him about how he doesn't fit on this team. Sounds like the case.
     
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    He is a up tempo player on a half court team.

    Worst yet is that our superstar is a great Pick and Roll player and Beasley is horrible at P&R offense.

    he doesn't comliment Wade well.

    he is a perfect fit in a more PG oriented offense.
     
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    I smell Phoenix.
     
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    John Hollinger catches onto what I have been saying for almost 2 years now:

     
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    Your theory was no player will sign for less than the MAX...
     
  36. Section126

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    Not true.

    I have been pushing the Wade +Max + Junior Max idea for almost 2 years now.

    In this scenario Amare is the Junior Max.

    In the scenarios I was pushing, I had Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay as the Junior Max with Bosh being the Max to go coupled with Wade.

    Riley, if he pulls off the trade would be finding a very creative way to make "the big three" happen.


    Contracts that have to be moved before July: James Jones (4.9), Daquan Cook (2.1). That would help to boost that junior MAX into something closer to a full MAX.
     
  37. FinSane

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    its beyond obvious at this point Wade and Beasley dont go have chemistry and likely never will. Theyre not friends off the court and do not communicate well on the court. Its as if Wade has his posse on the team and Beasley has his. Hopefully if we do this trade, Amare's knees dont give out. We already have an overpaid center on bad knees that's past his prime, I'd hope we dont have to continue that trend with another. I really like Bosh and hope we can get him one way or another. He seems like a textbook Riley type player. I'll cross my fingers and hope we find a way to get him.
     
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    If we acquire amare I think this scenario is likely. There is zero chance he doesn't opt out. Any potential free agent must get a long term deal under the current CBA as the max numbers will only decrease.

    We'd be scrambling a bit to fill out the roster, particularly at point guard, but you've got to figure plenty of older ring chasers will jump aboard.
     
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    i was at the rockets game tuesday and beasley made a bucket on a wade assist. when they ran back, beasley tried his hardest to give wade five. wade kept ignoring him. beasley eventually slapped him on the bicep and got into position to play d.

    another thing i saw at the game, that might not get caught on camera, is the players never listen to spo. it was cracking me and my friend up. they seriously NEVER acknowledge him.
     
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