Draft thread

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fishhead, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Butch surprised us all, but I think a lot of his success has to do with how Tua plays and McD coaches and gameplans. That’s not taking anything away from Butch because like you wrote he made chicken salad out of crap last season.

    Paul definitely has question marks. I think he has a fine line between being a bust or a pro bowler. His ceiling is definitely sky high… IF…big IF, he can be coached up and clean up his technique. However, even with his poor technique he was the best pass pro T in all of college football. Imagine if he puts it all together.
     
  2. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Sceeto may be a Dolphins fan, but he’s definitely a troll who rarely adds anything to the board. Unless we want to count asinine posts and the complete negativity he adds for all things Dolphins.
     
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  3. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Sceeto brings absolutely nothing to this forum.
     
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  4. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Like I said we will let it play out and see what happens.I have my doubts..
     
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  5. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Your main concern about the offensive line was them being able to run the ball late in the season and Brewer excels at run blocking.
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Absolutely being self aware to know what you need to work on is a very positive trait. I think it’s a minority
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The issue for me is sloppiness and a lack of precision in the run game.

    Also the level of comp is about to raise exponentially so while playing at the univ of Houston he can get away with sloppy technique he will get murdered at this level every week with the talent at edge in this league

    Now I can’t find it but I’ll continue to look, I saw these certain plays and angle s from the senior bowl where I saw him buckle down and really up his level of game to the comp he was facing, he was faster, more aggressive and you could really identify the hi level talent he does have.
     
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  8. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    :sidelol::oldtoker:
     
  9. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    One of the principles of military leadership…

    “Know yourself and seek self improvement”

    I believe ALL of us can use a dose of this.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Another principle is get rid of the helpless and weak minded :)
     
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  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    It's not whether or not his play is any worse, but is it a bigger drop off? I honestly don't know. I mean, people have posted stats regarding when Tua throws outside etc when the middle is taken away. It's not great. How does that compare to other QBs? I don't know. But those are the things we should be arguing/discussing.. those are beneficial discussions for both sides.
     
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  12. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    It's not elite but in by no way, shape, or form is it "not great".
     
  13. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    And compare Tua to these guys:
     
  14. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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  15. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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  16. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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  17. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    Waiting for "but Tua can't run" arguments to begin.
     
  18. Aquapride

    Aquapride Active Member

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    By "context" do you mean excuses for losing games?
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sure, there are legit reasons why teams lose games so if the context makes sense it’s your decision to respect it or not.
     
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  20. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Hey cherry picker in chief. Why don't you pull up Allen's rushing stats in those games and compare them to Tua's? Allen was a major part of why buffalo won the majority of those games by rushing even if not as much passing, although he was still better than Tua passing as well.
     
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  21. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    No, by context I mean using your brain and some common sense to find out why a team lost a game rather than just spewing asinine sh!t.

    With that criteria I understand why you don’t know how to utilize context.
     
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  22. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Hey, nose picker in chief. We were discussing arm strength in cold weather, why would anyone with half a brain talk about rushing?

    Run along, boy…
     
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  23. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    I called it. Just sayin...
     
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  24. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    It's so awesome when Josh Allen runs it in from the 1 yard line to steal the stats from his RBs. Great team player!
     
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  25. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. Why don't people bring up chicken when discussing the best cut of steak?
     
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  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I see you've signed in to your alternate account. It's getting hot in here. Had to get some backup.
     
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  27. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Because Allen finds a way to get it done in cold weather games, Tua does not. You were arguing like Allen had nothing to do with winning those games and he's no better than Tua.
     
  28. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah sure, if you think that's all Allen does, fine. Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

    I just wish Tua could also do it to win the big games in cold weather.
     
  29. Sceeto

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  30. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Wow… I find it extremely surprising that someone with your superior intellect would double down on the nose picking. Lmao

    Dan: “Tua’s passing in the cold is comparable with most QB’s”

    Hitman: “Josh Allen runs fast!” *wipes booger on the wall*

    Great job.
     
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  31. Aquapride

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    You should enter Fantasy Football because those leagues are all about individual stats (rather than winning football games). It's becoming crystal clear that your criteria for evaluating players is 100% statistics. For the upcoming season please learn some of the nuances of the game and then you might understand why it makes good sense for the Dolphins to give a new QB a chance to lead the team.
     
  32. Aquapride

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    I have one account here at ThePhins , which honors the definition of forum (a place where different opinions and perspectives may be shared).. A mod at TuaHeaven forum expelled me 2 months ago for no reason other than I suggested that the Dolphins consider trading Tua for draft pick (s).
     
  33. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Tua has the 7th highest winning percentage of all active starting quarterbacks in the league right now. He puts up elite stats and wins games. He lost one playoff game. Time to cut bait.
     
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  34. Aquapride

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    For the 2022 season the Dolphins lost 4 of their final 5 regular season games.
    For the 2023 season the Dolphins lost 3 of their final 5 regular season games.
    I am o.k. with cutting (Tua) bait now but in March of 2023 the Dolphins exercised their 5th year option to have Tua play the 2024 season, and if he is cut now the team would still have to pay him for the year. So I suggest letting him play one more season.
     
  35. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    YOU’RE the one claiming that the QB wins and loses games. When talking about individual players individual stats are needed. Wins and losses are not individual stats.

    If you want to talk about the reasons for TEAM losses, do it, but thinking that one player is the cause (especially a player with elite stats such as Tua) is shortsighted and ignorant.

    You obviously don’t know enough about football to come up with anything other than “QB bad”. When you spew that nonsense then individual stats come into play.

    Do better.
     
  36. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Lmao… perfect example of what I just posted. You honestly believe that one player, Tua, was responsible for going 2-3 in their final 5 games. You completely disregard the injuries, strength of opponents, home field, special teams collapses, or anything else.

    Do better
     
  37. Phil Hutchings

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    Let’s hope so.
     
  38. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Perhaps it’s how you expressed your opinion as to why you received a ban.

    Self reflection is a good thing
     
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  39. Aquapride

    Aquapride Active Member

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    Several weeks prior to the draft I started a thread soliciting opinions for whether other teams might have an interest to trade draft pick (s) or players to acquire Tua. And for that I was banned.
    Now my take is that a forum owner has the right to expel any participant he wants, but doing so simply because a minority opinion was proffered makes for a soliloquy, not a forum.
     
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  40. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I’m not saying there is anything wrong with you suggesting we trade Tua, it’s your opinion, you also have to understand your suggesting trading a 25 year old Qb who plays faster than anyone in the game, quickest release in the game, most accurate in the game, and happened to lead the league in passing, all that and did not have a favorable beginning with our team as far as development goes.

    The mere suggestion to trading him for picks while being your opinion is quite non sensical, but that alone should not get you banned, it would have to come down to how you presented it and how your responded in the heat of the debate.
     
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