Draft thread

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fishhead, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

    3,860
    3,896
    113
    Jul 8, 2020
    [​IMG]
     
    Phil Hutchings likes this.
  2. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

    3,860
    3,896
    113
    Jul 8, 2020
    I haven't seen a full list of UDFAs, but here is what thephinsider.com has compiled:

    Andrew Meyer, C, UTEP - per Aaron Wilson

    Bayron Matos, T, South Florida - per Tom Pelissero

    • Basketball convert who has never played in a football game. Update: USF sent a correction to Barry Jackson that Matos has played snaps on special teams and on defensive line in one game before switching to offensive line. He has never played on offense.
    • $22,500 signing bonus, $225,000 salary guaranteed per Aaron Wilson
    Mark Perry, S, TCU - per Barry Jackson

    • Several teams were interested in Perry after the draft, with the Dolphins winning a bidding war by offering him a $15,000 signing bonus and $150,000 guaranteed, according to Aaron Wilson.
    Grayson Murphy, Edge, UCLA - per Barry Jackson

    Je’Quan Burton, WR, Florida Atlantic - per Aaron Wilson

    Gavin Hardison, QB, UTEP - per Tom Pelissero

    Storm Duck, CB, Louisville - per Tom Pelissero
    • Dolphins clearly wanted to sign Duck. They gave him a $20,000 signing bonus and $150,000 guaranteed with multiple members of the front office calling him to recruit him to South Florida, according to Barry Jackson.
    Isaiah Johnson, CB, Syracuse - per Barry Jackson

    Matthew Jones, G/C, Ohio State - per Barry Jackson

    Leonard Payne, Jr., DT, Colorado - per University of Colorado Football

    Hayden Rucci, TE, Wisconsin - per Wisconsin Football

    Jordan Colbert, S, Rhode Island - per Coach S. Colbert (his dad)

    Rookie minicamp invites

    Geoff Cantin-Ark, LB, Memphis - per Barry Jackson

    Mario Kenricks, DT, Virginia - per Aaron Wilson

    https://www.thephinsider.com/2024/4...e-agent-tracker-2024-nfl-draft-picks-signings
     
  3. Springveldt

    Springveldt Season Ticket Holder

    If anyone wants to know more about Bayron Matos, he was an NFL IPPP player this year. With those guys you can keep them on the practice squad for 3 years without them counting as taking up a space (not sure with Matos though since he was draft eligible). It's why Louis Rees-Zammit signed a 3 year deal with the Chiefs.

    Anyway the whole pathway thing was on YouTube this year, I watched them all as I was interested in how a few of the UK lads would do. Matos is huge and insanely athletic. Ran the 40 in 4.88 at what they said was 315lb.

    The guy the Bills drafted in the 7th round ran 4.79 at 300lb, mental.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVeVOQq_bXNXgir7aot4Db0G1WdNUO9pD
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    112,302
    68,483
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Lot of dolphins pundits trashing Paul
     
  5. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

    4,665
    1,791
    113
    Nov 25, 2012
    Germany
    Must have passed me, thought you were talking on here.
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2024
  6. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    Mohamed is in some very good company there.
     
  7. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

    1,802
    663
    113
    Apr 21, 2008
    Aurora, Colorado
    The Dolphins coaches feel they can fix the mechanical shortcomings of both Robinson and Paul. If they felt the OT class of 2025 was going to be weak, then taking on a project like Paul would make more sense too. I still would have liked to see them address IOL over OT. Other than that, I'm good with this draft. I liked doubling up at Edge and slot WR.
     
    dolphin25 likes this.
  8. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

    11,042
    4,427
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Honestly, with our limited picks, I think we did okay. My only complaint is that we didn't go after wide receivers with a bit more size.
     
  9. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

    6,381
    2,427
    113
    Nov 22, 2014
    I believe I would have preferred the best CB in the draft over our first pick.
     
  10. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    I remember reading years ago that teams should draft, while in a position of strength

    Maybe this pick falls into that category.
     
  11. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
  12. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    Bloody hell!

    If he’s quicker than Achane, he must be like lightning!
     
    Fishhead and resnor like this.
  13. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

    2,121
    1,766
    113
    Sep 29, 2016
    Maybe coach is thinking about using him in an unconventional role - kinda like a smaller, but much faster Deebo Samuel. Could you imagine him, Achane, Hill and Waddle out there together? There’s not a team out there with the speed to cover all those guys.
     
    dolphin25 and Phil Hutchings like this.
  14. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

    3,860
    3,896
    113
    Jul 8, 2020
    Malik Washington is easily the player I'm most interested in watching from this draft. Getting him so late was a steal.

     
    Two Tacos likes this.
  15. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    And Mostert isn’t exactly slow.
     
    Fishhead likes this.
  16. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    A question.

    Do franchises HAVE to give a place on the roster to all their draft picks each year?
     
  17. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

    1,802
    663
    113
    Apr 21, 2008
    Aurora, Colorado
    No but if you try to place them on the practice squad some team is likely to pick them up.
     
    Phil Hutchings and resnor like this.
  18. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

    3,860
    3,896
    113
    Jul 8, 2020
    Something about Chop makes me really want him to succeed. Seems like a good kid. Sitting with his grandma and family for the call makes me think he's grounded.
     
  19. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

    2,121
    1,766
    113
    Sep 29, 2016
    He got his wish!
     
    OwesOwn614 likes this.
  20. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

    3,860
    3,896
    113
    Jul 8, 2020
    From a cbssports.com article about the best pick of each team:

    EDGE Chop Robinson (Round 1, No. 21 overall)
    Honorable mention: WR Malik Washington

    As my EDGE1, I have to feature Robinson here, and his selection filled a low-key need in Miami given the late-season injuries to Jaelan Phillips and Bradley Chubb. What I like too is -- Robinson doesn't necessarily need to be the No. 1 700-snap outside rusher as a rookie. There is development to be had with his game. But the upside is magnificent. Oh, and he was productive at Penn State. It just didn't show in the sack department. A career pressure-creation rate of 17.5% is darn good, especially for someone as young as Robinson.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ls-among-best-single-picks-made-by-each-team/

    I find it interesting that although I love the pick of Robinson, it's debatable whether he's our best selection.
     
  21. Phil Hutchings

    Phil Hutchings Well-Known Member

    780
    424
    63
    Sep 16, 2018
    Thanks for the reply.
     
  22. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

    11,908
    10,420
    113
    Nov 24, 2007
    Rockledge, FL
    Although Robinson didn’t register a high number of sacks, which has been mentioned numerous times by a few as to him being a poor pick, he was able to cause disruption in offenses’ backfield.

    If he can replicate just that…causing disruption in the backfields it’s going to open opportunities for the defense to make big plays…a sack by Seiler…an interception by Ramsey, etc just by the mere disruption of the offensive play flow.
     
    dolphin25 and danmarino like this.
  23. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

    6,381
    2,427
    113
    Nov 22, 2014
    I like the person, but 11 total tackles in a season is a worry.
     
  24. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    Good thing he didn’t have 11 total tackles, then.
     
    Phil Hutchings likes this.
  25. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    11,147
    5,872
    113
    Nov 24, 2007
     
    OwesOwn614 likes this.
  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    Right.

    He had 12 solo tackles in 10 games started last season, if I'm not mistaken.
     
    dolphin25 likes this.
  27. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    I didn't realize that Chop wasn't even a starter for the majority of his collegiate career. Started one game freshman year. Zero games sophomore year, and 10 his junior year.

    Not sure what to think about that. Certainly doesn't make me too thrilled that we grabbed him in the first.
     
    dolphin25 likes this.
  28. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    Yes.

    Change parameters so you can whine about it and claim you’re being misrepresented.

    He said TOTAL TACKLES… he said 11 TOTAL TACKLES. Is that true or not?

    Then you come in with 12 SOLO tackles which is still more than 11. Right? 11<12…FACTS… lol


    I know… I know… I’m mean. You’re so affected. Lol
     
    ExplosionsInDaSky likes this.
  29. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    He just turned 21. If you know anything about PSU’s defense you’d understand why his snaps weren’t very high. Maybe you should read a little about him and his former team before you cherry pick with the hot takes.



    Sophomore season: “Awards: Selected All-Big Ten honorable mention by the coaches and media...Named a Pro Football Focus All-Big Ten second team selection...Earned the team's Reid Robinson Outstanding Defensive Lineman Award with Adisa Isaac.

    Appeared in 12 games...Posted 26 tackles (19 solo), 10 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks, two pass breakups, three quarterback hurries, a fumble recovery and a forced fumble...Named the coaching staff's Defensive Player of the Week three times (Ohio, 9/10; Maryland 11/12; Utah, 1/2).”

    “he StArtEd zErO GaMEs” lol

    Junior Season: “Awards: Postseason: Earned first-team All-Big Ten honors from the coaches and media...Recognized as a second-team All-American by Pro Football Focus and USA Today...Tabbed a third-team All-American by the Associated Press...Was Penn State's Team MVP along with Olumuyiwa Fashanu...Named the team's Reid-Robinson Award winner, recognizing the outstanding defensive lineman, along with teammate Adisa Isaac. Preseason: Earned preseason second-team All-American honors...Named to the Bednarik Award, Lombardi Award and Bronko Nagurski Trophy watch lists.”
     
  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    You really are unhinged, man. Cherry picked stats again? I was looking into his tackles since you decided to quibble with someone over that. In that process, I found out about his lack of starts, and so I posted about that in here, where we are taking about him.

    Further, I stated "I don't know what that means," and then I said it didn't make feel good. You could have just answered my concern without being a condescending dick.

    Also I had already read the accolades you posted, but that still doesn't mean he was a good choice in the first round. This is my general problem with Grier. It's not that he picks bad players. It's that IN MY OPINION he picks safe players when there are better choices for that spot available. Your response did nothing to address that.
     
    dolphin25 and pumpdogs like this.
  31. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

    3,193
    2,373
    113
    Sep 13, 2011
    I'm really sorry that you don't like the pick, but maybe he'll work out for us? Or are you ready to just call him a bust just because Grier picked him??? Have you even done any research on him? Do you even watch college football? I'm not a huge college fan, but the one team I do like is coincidentally Penn State. I think he's got a chance to succeed in the pros, but that's me.
     
    Phil Hutchings likes this.
  32. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    And further, I wasn't even bashing the pick or the player. ANY criticism of the tab or players and you immediately act like the poster hates whatever it is they were taking about.
     
    dolphin25 and JJ_79 like this.
  33. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    It was just a comment. Did you know he has only started that many games? I'm not bashing.

    If you read my next post you'd see that I only saw his starts when I was doing a little research on him because Dan was quibbling over ONE TACKLE.

    You would think dudes could just give answers without being douchey about it.
     
    dolphin25 likes this.
  34. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    Chris Grier picks for the ceiling. He’s as far away from “safe” pick as there is.

    Uneducated, farcical, and just plain old pessimistic posts that are not backed up with any semblance of rational thought or levelheadedness deserve condescension and nothing more. Not to mention that it really doesn’t matter how I respond. If I disagree I’m “mean”. lol
     
  35. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    “One tackle”? Lmao

    One tackle, 5 tackles, or 50 tackles… doesn’t matter. He has a penchant for fudging stats. He does it so often I’ve made frequent remarks about how bad he is at transcribing them.
     
  36. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    Chops athleticism is off the charts. He was the leader in QB pressures last season. His ceiling is higher than Everest. Will he reach that peak? Maybe, maybe not, but picking for highest FLOOR is not how this works. And no one knows high how, or low, Chop will be in a couple years. Some here like to pretend that drafting these guys is an exact science or they judge based on nonsensical things like ROY or whatever. Cherry picking things and using asinine things like that is just a way for them to troll. Now, I don’t think resnor is a troll, but he’s an emotional train wreck that’s been brainwashed by the trolls.
     
    Tuanon4Life likes this.
  37. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

    15,819
    21,595
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
     
    OwesOwn614, Tuanon4Life and Striking like this.
  38. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

    746
    834
    93
    Dec 23, 2022
    This kid is going to turn out being a stud.
     
    dolphin25 and danmarino like this.
  39. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

    13,540
    6,283
    113
    Oct 13, 2008
    New York
    :sidelol: :mullet4:
     
    resnor likes this.
  40. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

    16,417
    9,977
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    New Hampshire
    Oh so it doesn't matter if you misrepresent others, or act like they're stupid for saying 11 tackles when it is really 12? Treat others the way you want to be treated.

    You've turned into one of the most disingenuous posters on this site.
     
    dolphin25 and Sceeto like this.

Share This Page