Draft thread

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  1. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Next one in Mohamed Kamara (Edge) Colorado State.
     
  2. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    He‘s got a point with the rest of what he wrote, that part you left away. Dud is an overreaction I agree.
     
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  3. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Other than Igbinoghene, what other 1st or 2nd round pick has been an utter bust?
     
  4. pumpdogs

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    Did nothing in this draft to fix the offensive line.
     
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  5. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I mean, you left out like 98% of the post.

    I mean, saying someone is a dud can just mean not exciting. Drafting oline in the first often feels like a dud as compared to drafting your QB or flashy running back
     
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  6. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Which pick has been a Fitzpatrick or Tunsil pick(that fell into our laps)? Really loved the Holland pick, besides that he did okay but not good/great imo. and this draft looks like a boom or bust draft to me at least the first 2 picks.
     
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  7. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    You can't just ignore success because a player "fell". Grier took the player. Lots of other teams did not. They all made choices.

    I think it's fair to say Grier isn't an elite drafter, but he's not bad, and the idea that he should be fired at this point is unwarranted.
     
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  8. pumpdogs

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    This is the bottom line.U can bash Grier or u can praise Grier for the past picks.Bottomline is this.
    We don't win a playoff game this year its.time for him to go!!
     
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  9. JJ_79

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    Agreed a lot comes down to next season and as of now I think we took a step back from last season. Still money to spend and games to play but there is reason to criticize Grier and if we fail to win a playoff game or even make the playoffs, he definitely should be in question if not even fired.
     
  10. Sceeto

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    He should have been gone after the 2020 draft.
     
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  11. pumpdogs

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    This team is going to killed in the trenches onboth sides of the ball.U can't beat good teams like that.This rebuild with all those drafts got us nowhere.And I don't want to hear we have had 3 winning seasons If that that's the goal it shows how far this once great franchise has fallen.
     
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  12. JJ_79

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    Next: Malik Washington WR Virginia.
     
  13. OwesOwn614

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  14. JJ_79

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    Just checked into the last 2 picks a little, like what I’m seeing and reading from the short look.
     
  15. TheHighExhaulted

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    Washington should be the slot receiver week 1. Great pick.
     
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    I like the Washington and Kamara picks. We needed a 3rd WR badly.
     
  17. JJ_79

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    Next: Patrick McMorris S California.

    Looks promising to me.
     
  18. hitman8

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    Look at Dan being disingenuous and inserting the word complete into the quote, while leaving out the rest of it. How surprising...
     
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  19. Fishhead

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    Not sure we needed to trade future assets for a RB.
     
  20. Sceeto

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    We did? I’m at work. F!
     
  21. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Why?
     
  22. Aquapride

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    You bring up a good point because I believe that some fans consider 'winning season' to be the goal (rather than properly building a team capable of winning a Superbowl).
     
  23. Fishhead

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    We traded a 2025 third rounder to move up in the fourth for Jaylen Wright from Tennessee.
     
  24. danmarino

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    “Dud: a thing that fails to work properly or is otherwise worthless.”

    Is there an incomplete dud? Nope. Learn the definitions of words before you use them.

    The rest of that post of yours doesn’t matter. It’s not like you changed your mind or something. You called Chop a dud.
     
  25. Sceeto

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    ?? F!!
    Now I love Grier.
    :2guns:
     
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  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    You clearly called him a Dud. What else were you meaning?
     
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  27. hitman8

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    Unbelievable, you insert words into my quote that were not there, then you leave words out of the definition you use to somehow justify putting extra words into my quote.

    The actual definition also defines dud as something unsatisfactory. See complete definition below, without putting extra words in or leaving others out as you conveniently did twice.

    noun
    1.
    a thing that fails to work properly or is otherwise unsatisfactory, or worthless.
     
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  28. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    Great draft!

    The 2 pass rushers are probably the most athletic edges in this draft! Crazy that Kamara fell that far. Not too worried about his height, when you see how explosive and strong he is at getting to the quarterback

    Armstead isn’t the answer long term. And you don’t want to be left with absolutely nothing and desperately throwing resources away to fill a gaping hole at Left tackle… that is an expensive position !
    Paul reminds me of Austin Jackson’s profile. Should develop into a player.

    Wright is another breakaway big play back. But his pass protection is very advanced. And his Recieving skills will probably be the best in the RB room right away as a rookie. He isn’t just raw speed. Pretty well rounded back and Could have easily been the 1st back off the board.

    Malik Washington was setting production records last year in the ACC. Another YAC king with speed and broke the most tackles among wide outs. Not to mention his hands are elite. Tough as nails and never drops the ball are perfect traits for a slot.

    Didn’t think we would be getting a haul like this… Especially with a relatively low amount of draft capital !
     
  29. texanphinatic

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    UDFAs https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...ins-undrafted-free-agent-tracker/73486923007/


    Can't say I am super familiar with them, but I do like Mark Perry, TCU puts out good DBs. Storm Duck is both a great name and a guy we apparently went after hard, a boundary guy as opposed to slot. Bayron Matos is a basketball player who really hasn't played football ... but just a massive human with great movement.
     
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  30. OwesOwn614

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  32. OwesOwn614

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    Antonio Gates 2.0, queuing up in South Beach:



    Dolphins sign USF project Bayron Matos, who barely played for Bulls
    The 6-foot-7 former basketball player logged only a handful of snaps for USF in 2022.

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    Joey KnightTimes staff
    Published 2 hours ago|Updated 1 hour ago
    TAMPA — Former USF basketball player Bayron Matos, whose organized football experience is limited to a handful of snaps for the Bulls in 2022, will have a chance to compete for an NFL job.

    The Dominican Republic native signed with the Miami Dolphins as an undrafted free agent Saturday, following the final day of the NFL draft.


    There was some thought before the draft that Matos might become the first Bulls player to be selected since receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling was taken by the Packers in the fifth round (No. 174 overall) in 2018. Instead, Matos was joined by Bulls offensive tackle Donovan Jennings in signing free-agent deals.

    Jennings, a Gaither High alumnus, reportedly signed with the Packers early Saturday evening.

    The quintessential NFL project, Matos drew attention based on his size (6-foot-7, 313 pounds) and the potential he brandished as part of the NFL International Player Pathway program, a league initiative designed to “cover and develop elite global talent capable of competing in the NFL.” The program’s participants worked out in March at USF’s pro day, where Matos ran the 40-yard dash in 4.88 seconds.

    Before that, he had experienced minimal success as a college basketball player, and never had tried football at any level. But former Bulls football coach Jeff Scott encouraged him to join the Bulls in the spring of 2022. He worked out on both the offensive and defensive lines and on special teams, but made only a couple of cameo appearances that fall.

    Contact Joey Knight at jknight@tampabay.com. Follow @TBTimes_Bulls

    https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bul...ndrafted-free-agent-usf-jeff-scott-nfl-draft/
     
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  33. The_Dark_Knight

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    If this link doesn’t work, let me know and I’ll get on my laptop to copy/paste content.

    https://atozsports.com/miami/miami-dolphins-2024-draft-class-reactions-and-analysis/

    Three “overreactions” to the Dolphins draft.

    I do agree we didn’t do much to address the offensive line but hopefully Paul develops this year to be the heir apparent to Armstead.

    I don’t agree with the writer however about the drafting of Wright. As much as I love Mostert, he’s getting up there and he’s not going to be around much longer. Hopefully he’ll be that back that can instantly step up and seamlessly take Moestert’s place when the time comes.
     
  34. Fishhead

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    One intriguing UDFA signing is Matthew Jones, G/C from Ohio State. Started 24 of 26 games the past two seasons and was second team All-Big 10 last year.
     
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  35. Fireland

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    I agree that Wright is a luxury pick but next years third is not a "substantial premium"
     
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  36. OwesOwn614

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    I'm actually impressed with this draft. No, we didn't get an IOL, but we'll probably have two off the streets by Friday.
    You're correct. Unless the wheels fall off, that pick will be later in the round and there's a solid chance that we're going to have at least one compensatory pick in the third round, and possibly two. And that, to get a guy who was graded a late second rounder by a lot of folks. Each of the three "overreactions" was basically detailing things that can be fixed in the next month and if concerning, not overly worrisome at this point for me.

    This was a very solid draft for the picks that were available.
     
  37. texanphinatic

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    May need to wait for the June cuts to take effect, but reports were that we had approached a few IOL guys like Tomlinson about post draft signings. Would feel better with that. Wynn is the starting LG, Brewer the C. RG is a competition atm but I assume Eichenberg is the preference. As queasy as that may make some of us, he had maybe his best game at that slot, and he played OK for a.bit until he also got hurt down the stretch. I think the IOL focus will be more on depth than anything. We didn't struggle because our starters were bad, we struggled because the depth was bad.

    Probably we bring in a vet WR as well. While I like the two late round guys, not sure how much we want to rely on them so soon.

    The draft itself I don't love, but don't hate. I think it's a nod to the economics of the league more than an attempt to maximize this singular year. That's fine long term but I hope it doesn't bite us.
     
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