A lot of people questioned if Tyreek Hill would work in Miami because of concerns with Tua's deep accuracy but in his first year in Miami, on passes thrown 15+ yards, Tyreek posted: career-best catch rate career-high receptions career-high success rate that should have quieted the critics but it did not so then last year, Tyreek bested all of his career-highs on deep receptions YET AGAIN! career-best catch rate career-high receptions career-high success rate back-to-back seasons with superior results than in any season in KC and massive improvements in 2023 in fact, last year on targets 15+ yards downfield, Hill ranked: #1 in catch rate (69%) #1 in receptions (43) #1 in receiving yards (1,209) How does his 69% catch rate stack historically? Of 309 players 35+ targets of 15+ yards downfield since 2010, Hill's 69% catch rate in 2023 season with Tua ranks: #1 #1 of 309 the #1 best deep completion accuracy we've seen in the modern NFL Tua & Tyreek
Fact of the matter is, when people don't like you, there's always going to be a shift in the narrative, a moving of the goalposts, if you will. When news of Tyreek being traded to Miami broke, people were talking about how it was a stupid trade because Tua doesn't have the arm the offense would need to take advantage of Tyreek's skills (especially his skills as a deep threat). Two years later, it's about Tyreek carrying Tua.
I admit to being skeptical of the Tyreek trade. That was based more on questioning if Tyreek would continue to play at a high level or coast by once he got paid. I had no doubts that Tua would be able to take advantage of his skills, although I was expecting more of Tua hitting him in stride on a 5 yard slant and Tyreek taking it to the house not the second coming of Daryl Lamonica.
The elite traits that we’ve talked about him having since the beginning are shining through in these stats. The most innately accurate Qb in the game Easily the best anticipatory thrower in the game. Easily the fastest operational Qb in the game. McDaniel had built an offense around these three traits. Now Dano we need to figure out how we can operate this sophisticated offense when the communication breaks down or literally is difficult to hear. We need to figure if there are imbalances in the offense that is derailing it when it comes to sustaining drives and scoring points. All of this points to this, “if you protect him he will shred” I understand bpa but, upgrades on the Oline can have serious positive trickle down affects on the run game and pass game.
Couldn’t agree more. It would have been nice to be able to depend on the oline to hold up under more conventional plays last season when the communication was off, Tua was off, Tyreek/Waddle were hurt, etc. I’m with you on wanting our first pick to be an olineman…. As long as it’s not a reach where that same guy could be had with our 55 for example. My ideal draft would be us trading back a few spots, picking up a late second or early 3rd, grabbing Barton with the 1st round pick (I’m just afraid he may be gone before 21 though) and then BPA at edge, DT, or DB with #55, then doing the same thing with that extra pick.
Barton feels like the player I start dreaming for us to pick only for him to go one spot before we pick.
He’s such a fighter that guy, imo he’s an all pro future guard masking as a tackle but man he will fight you tooth and nail to get the job done, held his own against FSU and Jared Verse
Couldn't agree more. Think I'd at least let him fight for a tackle slot because I know he'd at least keep things interesting but his future is inside.
This is the tweet I copied and pasted above. I gave Sharp credit, but didn’t post the X link because I know some people don’t like to visit X.
Stupid me. I thought you posted some of it but, in hindsight, I see that you did post all of it. Sorry about that.
Copy & paste the information in the browser address bar. When they changed the name, it gummed up a lot of message boards but fortunately, the address bar still works. It still has "twitter" in it and it allows you to paste the tweet here instead of just the link. Or you can replace "x" in the pasted link with "twitter" and it does the same thing.
They’ve actually fixed the issue where all you have to do is post the link and it embeds on this forum now. What I’m talking about is someone using an excuse for not clicking the embedded post in order to claim they didn’t read it. IOW, some here have claimed in the past that they didn’t see a post because they didn’t want to click the link or embedded tweet. (Typically it’s because the info contradicted their opinions.) I was trying to not have to spell that out because inevitably someone is going to say I’m being mean to them. Lol
“If you protect him, he will shred” LOVE IT!!!! I couldn’t agree with you more about the affects of a good OL will have on not only the passing game, but the running game as well. Imagine an OL that can push the LOS 5 yards downfield before the RB even has the ball in his hands. That’s why Riggins was so phenomenal with the “Hogs” blocking for him. Would love to have the confidence to know we could hand the ball off on 3rd and 3 and be guaranteed of moving the sticks…and chewing up the clock.
With that you aren’t getting the elite pocket play that Tua provides. Perhaps Tua has been fat shamed enough to show the world he can make some plays.
Speaking of Tyreek, he was called out by McDaniel during the playoff game for getting manhandled by Snead all game.
No. The argument some have given is that because he's so overly friendly/chummy with the players, A CONCERN IS that players might not take him seriously when he's being serious. People had/have a concern, based on things they see. Acting like they're afford or trolls is a native freaking problem. A mod intentionally(?) misrepresenting other posters positions seems to be problematic also. You guys do you. You are the only ones who know football, and the only ones who can see the truth. You have all the answers. Ali the rest of us are just mongoloid, sensitive trolls.
No, I heard some people say they had concerns, and one concern was that because he was too friendly with the players that when he was being serious the players might not care. Another concern was that they hadn't seen him publicly going after a player.
Here's a guy who is actually on the team telling you what the coach is doing. Yet you hang on to a made-up narrative from some other poster who has never spent any time with any of these guys. Also whose position am I misrepresenting? Did I name anyone? Triggered much?
And now you hear it from the actual star player that this unequivocally isn't true. Not some distant source that isn't even on the team.
You misrepresent everything you disagree with. Posters here were writing that McD was more of a friend than a leader. They, and you agreed if I recall, wrote that McD is not a leader of men because he’s too nice, goofy…soft. You agreed. Now we have Tyreek Hill, one of the biggest super stars in the NFL telling you how he was called out in front of the team. How that LEADERSHIP exuded by McD fired him up and made him work harder. And here you are whining over some faux conspiracy against the guys who wrote and agreed to the failure of leadership crap. Some people just aren’t emotionally strong enough for the internet. Lol
Tyreek has proven he‘s not the most reliable source a couple of times now. Not saying this is this case here and I believe him and I think McD is great, but I can understand the doubts especially with us failing towards the end. No reason to ridicule one, just my two cents.
I literally posted a video from the best player on the Dolphins saying that coach McDaniel openly holds his players accountable, including the star ones in the biggest moments, and it makes them want to get better. lol
Tua Tagovailoa has come into his own as quarterback of the Miami Dolphins in the last two seasons. Tagovailoa showed what he’s capable of when he doesn’t have to compete for the starting job each week and – at least this year – showed what he can do when he’s 100% healthy. For the fifth-year quarterback, he chalked it up to at least two things that have helped him out tremendously: the weapons put around him and the head-coaching style of Mike McDaniel. The Dolphins traded for Tyreek Hill, signed Raheem Mostert and drafted Jaylen Waddle and De’Von Achane in the last two years. It’s helped the Dolphins go from the top 25 in yards and scoring to the top 10 in each category, including first in yards and second in points in 2023. "It’s been all of it. I would be [remiss] to say it was one person and miss out the other people. But for sure, the guys that I’m surrounded with help me take my game to another level. And I would say the same if it were vice versa; I am also able to help those guys take their game to another level." As fans may have seen on HBO’s "Hard Knocks," it’s not exactly a house of pain in the Dolphins' locker room. Tagovailoa highlighted McDaniel’s approach. "Now, with our head coach … I think the thing that he’s done that’s been really good is he has a heightened sense of emotional intelligence in reaching out to guys. … Coaching is trying to get guys to do the same thing at once," he told Fox News Digital. "But some guys don’t learn the same way as others. And so, he tried to find ways around: ‘How can I get this guy to be on the same page as that guy? OK, that’s how he learns? That’s how we’re going to do it.’" "I think taking that sort of approach has really helped everyone on the team throughout the past two years." Tagovailoa suggested that he relished being able to "actually be myself" and that he didn’t have to "pretend to like this play." The 2023 season was Tagovailoa’s best by far, despite only making it to the divisional round once again. He led the NFL with 4,624 passing yards and had 29 touchdown passes as well.
NFL defenses do not allow much "elite pocket play", which is why NFL teams now draft somewhat mobile quarterbacks.
No. A true scramble happens only about 15% of the time in the NFL. Pocket awareness, and the ability to avoid, not just “scramble”, is a trait that most QB’s need nowadays in order to succeed at a higher rate. However, the ability to avoid pressure can be done with a simple side step or roll out. Which has always been a part of the NFL since passing became the norm. QB’s MUST have elite pocket play or they are not going to be elite. You can argue that avoiding pressure by side stepping and rolling out is “scrambling”, but I disagree. Marino was elite at wide stepping, was he a scrambling QB? Of course not. Mahomes is terrific at avoiding pressure and knows when to scramble, but he’s slower than molasses and is successful because he’s so good at identifying when to run and avoiding pressure while in the pocket. If Mahomes never crossed the LOS he’d still be an elite QB because he has elite pocket play. All one has to do is look at QB’s with elite speed and scrambling ability, but average to below average pocket play, to see that QB’s have to be good from the pocket. Those QB’s rarely are successful long term and rarely, if ever, are on SB winning teams.
No I agreed that it could be a problem. You often want to paint me into a position that I haven't actually taken.
