Ryan Tannehill's Contract: Team Success as a Function of QB Play & Salary

If he wants to win he'll take the friendliest deal possible..I think he's that kind of guy..

 

This is not a realistic expectation. There is only one notable player to have done this.

 

I still think that at this point a deal that averages 15-16M per year is fair for both parties.

 

I think that Tannehill will go with a team friendly deal as he knows that we need to have money to spend to continue to build our roster for us to be competitive. We need to sign at least one guard in FA to help complete our OL. We need Albert back healthy as well as Billy Turner to have a huge year. I really think that we are pretty lucky that we have someone with high character and team first beliefs as our QB in Miami.He is definitely smart enough to realize it will take allot more than him to win a Championship. There are 4 guys that if we could get for our defense that would make us the top unit..or very close anyways. DT SUH, LB PATRICK WILLIS, CB BYRON MAXWELL, FS DEVIN McCOURTEY. Think how good the Defense would be. Then pickup OL Tony Franklin or Clint Boling, I like Franklin BETTER as he can play tackle or GUARD. Resign Clay and Odrick if they go with team friendly deals with incentives. Then....we are ready for a highly productive draft with every pick as well as some good UDFA's.

 

NFL-wise? The NBA potentially set a precedent (although LeBron's latest actions and Carmelo's deal have done some damage). Brady restructures often and recently turned a bunch of money into non-guaranteed performance/playing dependent payments. In the NFL it's less likely though. Contracts are not fully guaranteed and injuries seemingly are.

 

That seems a little high for him at this point. He still has to prove he is better than he has been so far before seeing that kind of money. His contract can always be renogiated if he excels. Right now i think he is worth 6-8 million with modest garunteed money. I dont see him more than that on the open market

 

Yeah I'm only referring to the NFL. Brady is the only guy and this is a team that has cheated before, so circumventing the salary cap wouldn't be that surprising. He is an extreme outlier.

 

So, it's the right thing to do, and the example is Tom Brady..and the results speak for themselves..

Don't strap your team financially if you wanna play with a good team around you, makes sense to me..your the leader, set the example.

We should be ok, we're talking 12 mill a year probably.

And like I said, I actually think Ryan has that type of character, so hunch tells me he'll fall into that line of thinking..

 

yup...deep down, if the qb is smart, he will do the right thing..I think Ryan is conscious of his surroundings.

 

How is it the right thing to do? We are talking about financial security that Tannehill can leave his family for generations to come.

Why is Tannehill the only one held to this standard? Why aren't Branden Albert, Mike Wallace, and others expected to give away millions of dollars for the benefit of the Miami Dolphins?

 

If we re-sign him to an extension THIS offseason, give him no more the 14-16 million, he doesn't deserve a dollar more than that.

 

With so much unknown going forward Ryan really isn't in a position to make too good of a deal for the Dolphins...what if this is the only extension/big contract he ever gets a chance to sign? I wont blame him for trying to get all he can.

 

because he's the qb, rules are and expectations are different, comes with the territory..if another player on the team doesn't get it then all the more important he does...

He touches the ball every play, he has a much bigger responsibility...he should do everything in his power to negotiate a team friendly deal....if he doesn't then his chances of success are diminished, and that won't get you job security now will it..

It's about keeping your job as long as possible, longevity...an investment into yourself, what's better, go after the big bucks, strap your team, and maybe get killed or not have sufficient weapons or defense to support you, or make a little less, have a better chance of having a better team around you with greater cap flexibility and extend your career and security with your team..l

Your the qb, the face of the franchise, your not doing this for personal achievement or early financial security, if you are then imo, it's the wrong approach to the position.

 

well they have had their peeps there for a long time, they can avoid the mike Wallace type mistakes, we have a new front office, so you might have to take the hit for another year, check out his production, then see what's going on with the contract in relation to the production.

 

Which imo is about where he ranks anyways

 

Trying to get all he can is the worst approach at that position I can think of..if that's who he is, and I don't think he is, then failure is imminent.

 

The question is, do you pay Tannehill for where he is now, or is he looking for money in line with where thinks he'll rank in a couple seasons.

 

Nobody in the Dolphins front office is nostradamus so you pay him for what he did up to date... Which is worth 14-16 million, nobody has a crystal ball and I dont want my favorite franchise to "Jay Cutler" themselves, that is the number 1 way to keep your franchise swimming in mediocrity, overpaying a QB because you think he will be a top 5 QB someday when he has never proved such..Dont believe me? Look no further then the Bears and where they are now as a franchise.

 

Tannehill is probably going to get paid at least as much as Andy Dalton. Dalton's stupid contract completely skewed everything.

But Dwyane Wade doesn't play football.

 

Slippery slope with those...team incentives is more like it.

 

You guys realize Tom Brady's wife make more than him right? It's unrealistic to expect Ryan to take less than market value and that value is around the same as Dalton and Kaeps contract.

The ONLY thing we can hope for in the contract is low guaranteed per year so we can cut bait if needed.

 

Ryan's agent, is that you?

 

NBA players get a lot more endorsement money and they have longer careers. They actually could be better off financially by taking a lower salary. NFL players don't really have those opportunities.

 

Quarterbacks do.

 

Just out of curiosity is there anything in the rules that would prevent ross from selling a player a million dollar propertyfor pennies?

 

Look up. There's a point.

I'm saying you are wrong about there being even one notable player to take less money. It's most likely that you meant Tom Brady, but Tom Brady hasn't done that. He lowered his cap number, but that means more years in his contract and more guaranteed money. He's still getting paid among the best at his position. He just isn't doing it in the same harmful way that Peyton Manning did with the Colts.

 

Tom Brady is a not an example for other Qbs, he has a wife that makes more money than anyone in the NFL makes. Ryan should get as much as he can unless he's stupid. Most NFL careers are short and he's risking his long term health. I don't know why people bring up Brady, he's not selfless he just literally has more money between him and his wife than he would ever make with a big contract so he doesn't care.

 

The most he should be looking for a year is 16 million with team incentives TOPS... Anything above that, he is just delusional.

If he wants to bet on himself and get paid next offseason in hopes of getting a bigger contract, go ahead, IM ALL FOR IT! I rather do that then pay him this year because if we suck again next year and cut ties with Philbin, maybe the next HC doesn't feel RT17 will be a fit with him and might want to grab his own QB that fits his system next offseason.

 

While that is true, much of the business is trying to predict where they will be. If you think Tannehill will be a top five player, you pay him that to keep him in Miami, or risk losing him If someone else offers him to five money, if another team sees him as that.

 

Well, he's not a top five QB right now. This is how you set franchises back YEARS! By paying a 25-30 TD per year guy a 40-45 TD per year contract and in two years we will be screaming at the roofs saying "WTF did we pay him this huge contract?!?!?" Bears are doing it with Jay Cutler, for years they been saying that he would be a top 5 and it has never happened. Just saying. Pay RT17 for what he HAS done, not what you THINK he will do, that is called being a smart GM. 16 million tops. Otherwise, let him prove it.

 

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Pay him right where he is, don't give him no top 5 contract.

 

Not to mention that Brady's wife is worth nearly 3 times as much. The vast majority of NFL players are the primary breadwinners in their households. Not many instances of the star QB worth over $100 million being the secondary income.

 

Not even close. IIRC the top 10 endorsement earners in the NFL combine for $55M, while the top 10 in the NBA combine for $155M. Peyton Manning is at the top, and only gets $12M per year in endorsements.

 

I think he's looking in neighborhood that Kapernick and Dalton in terms of a contract, I think they set the bar for guys like Tannehill. He's not Rodgers or Brees by any stretch but I think he's in the same conversation as Stafford, Dalton, Kap, etc. so 16 or something similar is probably about right.

 

However we wanna categorize it, just do the right thing with the best interest of the team and its cap structure...

This whole get what you can mentality doesn't apply to qbs who know who they are and what's best for them and their team..

You want long term success, then do the deal that is friendly..

Nothing wrong with that.