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5 Mistakes The Phins Can't Afford To Make This Offseason - Bleacher Report

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  1. shamegame13

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  2. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Solid article. The small blurb about players with colorful past was something I glossed over.
     
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  3. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    I think the title should be changed to "5 areas The Phins wish they could address but won't be able to Afford This Offseason"
    - addressing the need for a NT and keeping Odrick, may not be able to do both
    - addressing the #2 CB position is pretty high on my wish list
    - addressing the OLine is the #1 need IMO
     
  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    I notice the article is by Ian Wharton. I've read a few pieces by him now and rated every one of them. Starting to become a Dolphins writer I pay attention to.
     
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  5. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    I dont think he was putting them in a specific order. He was just telling the readers the 5 things that need to be done, not necessarily in an order. We can pick up Odrick and a NT. Like the article states, Starks becomes expendable this year and we can grab a guy like Goldman or Shelton in rd 1 to go with Odrick or sign another guy who won't cost a lot of money but will be efficient in the run. Keeping Odrick is key IMO, his best years are about to hit as he is entering his prime years. I believe the staff will have a plan for #2 CB by signing a VET that won't cost a ton of money to compete with Jamar Taylor, maybe use a mid round pick on another.
     
  6. pmj

    pmj New Member

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    We also have AJ Francis coming back. I'd be ok with just taking a project NT rather than trying to take a DT in round 1 if they aren't special. Top 2 rounds need to be BPA aka most likely to be a star, not just draft a position to draft a position.
     
  7. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Eddie Goldman is a heck of a talent and a big NT. He will be up the board as far as BPA goes and NT is a HUGE need for Miami unless you forgot all them teams running the rock down our throats last year? If we dont grab a good NT in Free Agency that can hold up in the run game, I see us going NT early in the draft, especially if a guy like Goldman is sitting there for the taking in round 1.
     
  8. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    He's a great follow on Twitter.
     
  9. pmj

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    I've just heard mixed reviews in general about the DTs that will be available to us like him and Shelton. I'm just saying whoever Hickey feels is the best player is who we need to get. We had a lot of issues last year, not just the DTs wearing down.
     
  10. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Well first off, we need a NT, not just a DT. Its NT thats a huge whole on our team. Secondly, their is mixed reviews on every player coming out of the draft including the 2 top prospects Mariota and Winston. Theres a reason they say the draft is just a "crap shoot". Its known Goldman is gonna be high on most teams boards, whether you like it or not. As you can see from my signature, I want Holliman or Gordon, im not gonna throw a fit if we grab Goldman though because NT is one of our biggest needs if not the biggest.
     
  11. Aquafin

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    I hope we address the oline first dline second, linebackers third , cb fourth , and runningback 5 but not necesarly in that order.
     
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  12. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Tannehill getting some semblance of pocket awareness would help the Oline out dramatically...
     
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  13. pmj

    pmj New Member

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    Yeah agreed draft is a crapshoot. That's why I feel you have to go BPA (obviously within the confines of the needs we have like DT, WR, LB, S/DB, OL), that's all I'm saying. Team needs more stars.
     
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    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Agreed, with all of our needs, it will be easy for Miami to go BPA this year, but you better believe Goldman is gonna be high on there if we dont grab a NT in FA. I believe we should go WR in rd 2 as its a deep class this year but im not completely opposed to grabbing one in rd 1, I just think it would be smarter to grab another position first in rd 1 then address WR in rd 2 (because of how deep the class is, and how many other needs we have on the team).
     
  15. CaribPhin

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    A NT in a 4-3? I'm assuming he's meaning someone who can play on the interior, play two gaps/blockers, and still get penetration.
     
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    I really wouldn't mind Shelton either, hes bigger then Goldman, but Goldman is know to be a good player at stopping the run. Shelton eats up space/blockers though. I think Miami has their eye on Shelton right now too.
     
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    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    You would be assuming correctly. A NT is still essential to a 4-3 defense. NT arent just made for 3-4, this isnt the Madden video game.
     
  18. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    And which pocket was he supposed to showcase this talent in? He really didn't have a much of a pocket during the season to even utilize pocket awareness.
     
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  19. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    well, I'm sure he was aware that he had no pocket, that must count.
     
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  20. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Letting Odrick walk is not a mistake, paying him would be the mistake unless he's willing to accept something like 4 million per season like Earl Mitchell. He's not that good.
     
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    LOL ok. He was only the best DT on our team last year, I can make an argument and say he was our only good DT last year. But, it's all good, he will go to a team like NE, SEA, GB, BAL and tear it up and make the playoffs and us fans will realize just how vital he was to us.
     
  22. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Yeah he going to tear it up alright. He and his 1 sack, 29 tackles all season long. He is to our defensive line what Hartline is to our receiving corps.

    Earl Mitchell had 33 tackles and 2 sacks.

    Someone post some advanced stats of these two players if you have them with you, for you can see how barely of a difference there is between them.

    Jared Odrick is not that good, and that is why some want to draft a DT in the first round.

    4 years 16 million just like Mitchell is the highest we should go, some team wants to give him 6-7 million or god forbid more, he can leave, we won't miss a beat.
     
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  23. Sceeto

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    Have to agree.
     
  24. shamegame13

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    Yea, lets also forget that the guy has been a great teammate being asked to play 3-4 DE to a 4-3 DE to a 4-3 DT and lets also forget that he lead our D-Line in Pass' Defended this year with 5, something that MVP candidate JJ Watt gets high praise for doing for his team.
     
  25. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Odrick doesn't get nearly enough respect from our fan base. He is a very solid player and we should do our best to keep him a Dolphin.
     
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  26. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    I agree, we should keep all our mediocre players and continue the treadmill.
     
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    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    dammit i just lost 20 bucks. you're alive and/or not in jail
     
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  28. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    stop whining. Odrick is a good, but not great DT. If he goes out and someone overpays for him, then let him walk. that's no different than any other position. but, if we upgrade the position with either FA or draft pick (hopefully the latter) and Odrick comes back at a reasonable price (4ish mill/year) than I'd love to have him as the 3rd DT in our rotation.
     
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    So you say about Mike Wallace who's stats were pathetic in comparison to what hes getting paid "Wallace does more then stats show" and Odrick is a guy who does more then stats show but way lesser price then Wallace. Lol Talk about irony and contradiction.

    I like Wallace but he is an overpaid one trick pony, Odrick is a guy that can do a lot for our D, and there is a reason he is in store for a big payday.
     
  30. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Vagina.
     
  31. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I actually expect them to make all of those mistakes.....
     
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  32. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    #MiamiDolphinsFansExpectations lol
     
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  33. MikeHoncho

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    Reading the article title, I was half-expecting a blurb along the lines of:

    "Number 4 will shock you!"
    "NFL GMs hate him!"
    "You'd never guess number 5!"

    Oh BleacherReport, you silly goose.
     
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  34. dolphin25

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    I think the OL will be ok with the people getting healthy and playing in their correct spots. I would not mind signing 1 vet guard to make it more solid.

    I'm thinking DT right now.
     
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    I just pray to god they don't make the mistake of extending Mr Average (Tannehill) this offseason.
     
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    Odrick is basically the Koa Misi of the DL...he's nothing more than solid.
     
  37. shamegame13

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    I dont want to extend him this offseason for a couple reasons, such as:
    -Let this year be a 'prove it' year
    -If we miss the playoffs, I imagine the coaching staff is gonna get fired in this situation, let the new HC decide whether he wants to keep RT17 or he might want his own guy that will fit his system better, no point in handcuffing the next HC if we dont have to
     
  38. resnor

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    My prayer is that you anti-Tannehill people get your wish, and we don't extend him this year, and then next year he plays lights out, and gets a massive payday.
     
  39. MikeHoncho

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    I'd be okay with this. Any scenario where he plays lights out.
     
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  40. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Be nice if this staff could actually develop Ant Johnson... He flashed a lot at LSU, just wasn't consistent. We also still have Deandre Coleman and Kamal Johnson.

    Considering Kamal Johnson's domestic violence and other issues in college, I'm surprised he's still with the team at all.
     

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