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Jeff Ireland Joining Saints Personnel Department

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shamegame13, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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  2. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's a guy who should be employed, and probably should be getting another shot at a GM job if he can learn from his mistakes.

    The guy had no problem identifying talent, his problem was largely roster management.
     
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  3. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Yeah thats his forte......he will do well there.
     
  4. DcDolfan420

    DcDolfan420 Banned

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    Ireland....Like a Boss.
     
  5. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He'll never be a GM again. Those guys don't recycled very often anyway.

    Especially true when you have Jeff Ireland's, let's say colorful history and foibles.
     
  6. DcDolfan420

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    You should patent that crystal ball now lol. I love this dude.
     
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  7. shamegame13

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    There is really no telling what can happen in FO's. F.I., A GM might get fired, HC of same team gets retained, HC has good chemistry with Jeff Ireland and Jeff Ireland gets promoted to role. It's almost that easy. A number of things can happen in the future, for the best or worst of Jeff Ireland.
     
  8. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Name the last GM that got another GM job after being fired.

    I think it's bill Polian (and I'm not sure if he was fired by Carolina or he quit to go to the Colts). And he had actually accomplished incredible things.

    Ireland accomplished nothing.
     
  9. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I suppose he could be a nominal GM again, in a structure where an EVPFO or coach is making the final calls, but he will never have the kind of job he had here ever again.
     
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  10. MikeHoncho

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    Over/under on the number of saints discussion forums joined by LBsFinest since Ireland's hiring?
     
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  11. DcDolfan420

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    TBH I don't know the nfl THAT well. But to be fair history doesn't always repeat itself. I just personally love the guy, and today marks his return.
     
  12. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Rick Spielman
     
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  13. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There you go.

    One.

    And I'm still not sure how that happened or how he's kept that Vikings job as long as he has.
     
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  14. Disgustipate

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    I could be wrong, but I think the only decision-maker in the league on his second shot right now is Scot McCloughan, and his issues were personnel, not professional.

    Ireland probably won't get a second shot, but I think there's pretty good grounds for it.
     
  15. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You love Jeff Ireland?
     
  16. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Was McCloughan actually a final decision maker in SF before his problems cropped up?
     
  17. DcDolfan420

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    Dawg, today might as well be Christmas to me. And Coach K 1 win away from 1k, life is good.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Rick Spielman got another chance, I don't see why Jeff Ireland wouldn't.
     
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  19. FinSane

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    Well color me surprised. Let's see how long he lasts. Both he and Payton are Parcells guys so maybe it'll work.
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The mess at oline falls squarely on him IMO. If he had built an oline, he might even still be here. Problem is, every decision he made in regards to that unit, with the exceptions of mike pouncey and jake long, were bad/awful. Jon Martin, incognito, clabo, Dallas Thomas, Colombo, John Jerry...just all bad. He drafts a franchise qb but can't protect him for ****.
     
  21. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I've heard Jeff Ireland is already looking into the possibility that Drew Brees' mother is a working girl.
     
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  22. Stitches

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    But what happened to him never getting a job in the NFL again?
     
  23. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I was literally 3 seconds away from posting this.
     
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  24. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's who I missed.
     
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  26. Fin-Omenal

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    Not sure Jeff Ireland finishes in the top 5 of our 2015 Phins.com GML.
     
  27. DcDolfan420

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    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Justice, that is what. Intelligence rises over time. Most people just aren't that intelligent lol. Ask Coach K.
     
  28. shamegame13

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    Bitterness runs strong in these forums sometimes.
     
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  29. schmolioot

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    And that worked out well for Washington.

    Point is it's rare. We've come up with 2 sort of recent examples and one guy just lost that job and the other is still employed beyond all reason and logic.
     
  30. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Are you seriously comparing Jeff Ireland to Coach K?

    Are you TooGoodForDez in disguise? Is this a new off season performance art project?
     
  31. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    ....intelligence? Calling Dez's mom a whore. Dez, a big strong #1 wr we still need btw. I've already mentioned his incompetence at the oline unit. Sturgis has been less than stellar. Ellerbe? Wheeler? Legedu naanee? Trading vontae Davis?

    INTELLIGENCE?!
     
  32. Larry Little

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    I can't say I agree with you. He had some good picks, however, he had some REALLY bad 2nd round picks. I want to stress... REALLY bad. Ireland targeted some questionable guys and whiffed BIG time.

    His 2nd round picks were his downfall, IMHO.
     
  33. shamegame13

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    His 3 Big Mistakes IMO
    1. Trading Vontae Davis
    2. Drafting Johnathan Martin in 2nd Round
    3. Asking Dez Bryant if his mom was a 'Lady of the Night'
     
  34. Disgustipate

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    I don't think it's really anything other trivia if you're cutting it that way. The results on high draft picks weren't outside of a "normal" range, and I'm not sure 2nd round picks have any special character.
     
  35. DcDolfan420

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    When Tannehill wins the superbowl, ya'll will find out what a troll truly is.
     
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    Of course not Coach K is a legend. I'm just a massive Duke fan and wanted to mention his name. I do think Ireland is intelligent however, if I'm not mistaken even Ross said so when he basically fired him. It was Ireland's disloyalty to failbin that did him in, in the end. Not his IQ or GM ability. He was the bullygate scapegoat imho and speaking truth about Ross's b**** didn't help.
     
  37. schmolioot

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    Per Alex Marvez, he spoke to El Jeffe who told him he has not been hired by the Saints but interviewed there and hopes to get the job.

    So, not back in the league just yet
     
  38. Fin-Omenal

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    Trading up to secure Daniel Thomas was a fantastic move.
     
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  39. invid

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    Pat White? Patrick Turner? Daniel Thomas? Michael Egnew? Dallas Thomas? John Jerry (arguable, maybe)? Clyde Gates? Horrible jobs in the mid-rounds, some of them were even 2nd round picks.
     
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    Miller, Simms, Clay, Tannehill, Pouncy, Wallace, Hartline, Matthews, Gibson, Vernon, Jordan, Wake, Shelby, Starks, Odrick, Jenkins, Misi, Grimes, Jones, Taylor, Davis. Sorry he missed on Thomas.
     

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