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2014 Fins Offense = Boring

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by normaldude, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. normaldude

    normaldude Active Member

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    In past years, the Dolphins offense always provided some iconic plays that we'll remember forever. Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Charles Clay, even Brian Hartline had some memorable plays. Like..

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    But this year (2014), I don't think the fins offense has had a single amazing play that I'll remember 10 years from now. It's all been very boring. Is this the future of the fins offense?
     
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  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I thought the Mike Wallace one handed TD catch was pretty damn nice.
     
  3. normaldude

    normaldude Active Member

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    It was a nice catch. But it's not the type of play that I'll remember 10 years from now.

    I'm more likely to remember the Brent Grimes one-handed interception, or the Oronde Gadsden catch..

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  4. Fin-Omenal

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    That's because everything on offense is all about playing it safe and trying to methodically move down the field, it's worked to an extent, but when teams have the personnel to take those 6 yd passes away we falter. You're absolutely right though, no signature plays have really occurred offensively.
     
  5. Fins Hipster

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    If you're going to be the team that throws the fewest downfield (20+ yards) passes in the air, you'd better have receivers and running backs who can catch the short ball and make plays with it after the catch. Darren Sproles, Wes Welker, Sammy Watkins, Percy Harvin, LeSean McCoy, etc. The Dolphins have Jarvis Landry and the occasional Lamar Miller play. No one else is offering that sort of skill set. The Charles Clay play above is the exception to the rule for him, and certainly nobody should be expecting that sort of play regularly out of their tight end, anyway, unless he's a Rob Gronkowski/Jimmy Graham type who can run over defenders with far greater regularity.
     
  6. fins104

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    Its all on Tannehill. We get open deep a lot. Tannehill just can't throw an accurate deep ball and until he learns that we will never be an elite team. It's holding this offense back so badly.
     
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  7. Limbo

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    He has never been very good at hitting big/chunk plays, even going back to college in a supposedly wide-open offense. He was consistently in the bottom half of the entire country in YPA while at A&M: In 2010...ranked 65th at 7.0. In 2011...ranked 67th at 7.1. That 7ish number is not good for college QBs.

    And his first three years in the NFL tell the same story. He's finished 22 and 27th in the League in ypa, never cracking 7yds/a. Right now he's 31st in the League at a paltry 6.66ypa. This isn't anything new: it's who he has been as a QB since he started playing the position. Unfortunately, we really need him to change his ways after all these years. It's a hugely important measure. Ideally he starts turning it around in New England.
     
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  8. DPlus47

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    Kippy Brown says "hi."
     
  9. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I understand where the thread came from, but the Dolphins have had some offenses that made this one look like Chip Kelly's. The lack of a deep ball and the lack of a breakaway threat at RB can lead to what you're seeing as boring. Still, there are game tapes from the Jimmy Johnson era where I fast forwarded through every offensive possession upon re-watching. At least this year's team isn't that bad...
     
  10. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Excellent topic. Fun is what it's all about.
     
  11. 13Machine8385

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    The team refuses to draft dominant or dynamic playmakers. It's telling that our best WR was a player we drafted this season. Too bad we didn't grab a couple more. This was the year to do it.

    Need a true #1 WR

    On a side note, Tanny needs to roll out more. We seem to be more effective as an offense when he moves around more and becomes a running threat.
     
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  12. Fins Hipster

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    Certainly if you don't have an abundance of the short-area playmakers I mentioned above, you'd better be hitting the deep ball with regularity. You can't have neither.
     
  13. Alex13

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    yeah sure, lets complain about the offense that is almost scoring 5-6 points more than last year.....what a stupid thread...just lift the post count to start threads to around the 300-500 range and this stuff won´t happen anymore
     
  14. djphinfan

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    21 yards....longest td on the year...lol
     
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  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Need a big time wide receiver and a big time running back..
     
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  16. 13Machine8385

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    Definitely better than last year but still too conservative. Not good enough. This offense has been vanilla since Marino retired. Just not good enough for Today's NFL.
     
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  17. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    We haven't looked even remotely good the past 2 games. When EVERYTHING was on the line. We aren't even remotely "Elite" yet. Do you really think we are? When the season is on the line we fold. PERIOD. Same story, just a different year. And another offseason of lame excuses...
     
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  18. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Nothing but just a whole lot of excuses as par for the course since Marino retired DJ. We are SO CLOSE. Blah Blah Blah. You can't deny that.
     
  19. jdallen1222

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    I'd fist bump you but I dont agree with the last part, it will still happen.
     
  20. Aquafin

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    I think many people here forgot about the great 80 yard play by Sage Rosenfels to Chris Chambers and then we had Wes Welker , Ricky Williams and then we had Ronnie Brown and the dumb asses we had coaching tried to throw the ball when we had great running backs and then we do the exact opposite . so I want Miami to learn how to keep the better players and become good on both sides of the ball .
     
  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    were last in the league in creating big plays, explosive plays..lol, theres really no other way of looking at it..something has to change.
     
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  22. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I get flamed when I mention that. Lol
     
  23. rtl1334

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    This is what I will say about the Tannehill/Wallace thing. Google "Mike Wallace 2012" - down the first page is a BR story regarding Wallace' 2012 struggles. Read the story plus the 55 comments. The player they complain about is the exact same player we complain about here. Everything from effort to whining to drops to catch radius to loss of focus to not fighting for balls.

    When you look at his 2012 numbers, again it's the same player we have here. The 2009 to 2011 Wallace is gone.

    Some say...well Wallace is always open downfield. Well he is and he isn't. He never gets a clean release off the line so he doesn't break free until he's about 35 to 45 yards down field. These for every QB are low percentage passes. It's not like he's open 20 yards, caught at 35 to 40 yards and then gone. No he breaks free far too deep and has too narrow of a catch radius. Of course this has somehow become an issue with our QB.

    Still I think the biggest reason we don't throw deep to Wallace, beyond the protection issues, is the fact he doesn't fight for balls and many are likely to be picked.
     
  24. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Blah Blah Blah...
     
  25. djphinfan

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    not sure how one could argue..its what we are, the worst team in football making big plays.
     
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  26. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Oh but people on here will throw out all these useless statistics to try and backup their weak arguments to defend Tannehill. It's the Oline, it's our WR's, the dog ate my homework. Lol

    Dan Marino and the elite QB's today get it done no matter who lines up with them. I'll probably get flamed for this post too, but the entire problem sits squarely on Ryan Tannehill's shoulders. He IS the problem. And I hope he fixes it this offseason.
     
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  27. djphinfan

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    he pretty much has the same level of talent on offense right now as he did last year...Landry being the one guy thats different, so its the whole thing

    until he starts doing some things on his own then he carries the load.
     
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  28. Kud_II

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    This is why I don't know why so many are deadset on Lazor. Because he was hyped coming into the season? I say our new HC picks our OC. If that happens to be Lazor so be it.
     
  29. pumpdogs

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    I you don't like the post don't respond like a third grader!
     
  30. MikeHoncho

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    I don't think you've witnessed Tom Brady when his offensive line isn't on the money.
     
  31. Piston Honda

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    My dream is that the Vikes cut Peterson, we grab him, and add Devante Parker in the draft.
     
  32. 407PhinFan

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    It's like he didn't see how horrible Brady was vs us in the first game.
     
  33. Phinfanjt

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    While I agree that this offense needs to be opened up and take shots down field your example is poor. What's so great about that Clay TD is his effort not the play itself. I think what this O needs is more playmakers. Guys that can turn nothing into something. Unfortunately Clay has been injured most of the year and he's one of the few on this team can make that type of play
     
  34. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I may be with Ya on Parker, he's a really good prospect, but I don't want Peterson anywhere near our team.
     
  35. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Personally I don't really care what he did legally. He made a parenting mistake based on the way he was brought up himself. Yeah it was pretty bad but hopefully he's able to make life changes that prevent that type of action in the future.

    What concerns me is actually how much gas he has left in the tank. He's been running hard for a long time now and backs don't last forever. Personally I'm hoping for Melvin Gordon.
     
  36. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    it's not just the kid thing, he's just not smart and his ego is out of whack.
     
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  37. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    LMAO, Man. This is the 1st time in years they had any kind of excitement on O. Not saying they are lighting it up but....
    People seem to forget, Sparano, Wanny, Cam and even Saban ball.
     
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  38. Linus

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    There was your iconic play.
     
  39. Kud_II

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    2014 Fins offense - Lazor sucks. Fire him.
     
  40. Kud_II

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    What we got to bring the Wildcat to the NFL for a year. :)
     

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