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Florio at it Again

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bumrush, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    This same ******* who basically drove the entire Jonathan Martin fiasco with false reports and innuendo is at it again.

    How the hell are the Dolphins not deserving of a 5-3? Which games did they win that they shouldn't have won? Heck, this dumf*** should be arguing that they should be 6-2 given how the Green Bay game ended.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/pfts-week-ten-picks-3/
     
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  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So what, they both picked us to lose last week. As far as I'm concerned, keep picking the opponent.
     
  3. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I think hes implying we are not a legitimate 5-3 playoff contender. Personally, I hope he keeps writing this kind of drivel. That way after we make it to the playoffs and do well, we can send all his dumbass comments back to him in a nice festive email, Compliments of The Phins.Com
     
  4. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    If he meant playoff team, he would have wrote that.

    How is a team not legitimate? The guy is is a biased *******, plain and simple.
     
  5. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    who gives a ****?
     
  6. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Is he the one who wrote the slander piece about Finnegan?
     
  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Here are the bad guys:

    Florio
    La Canfora
    Cole
    Sometimes Armando

    If the "news" comes from any of the first three, just know its either a flat out lie or bad piece of intel or bitter bull****. If its from Armando, then be skeptical first.

    ALWAYS look for non specific sources. For example there's a huge difference between saying "a player on the team" vs. "a person with knowledge" or "a source close to the team". Also look for qualifiers that walk back the factuality of what is being said like, "may" or "could", etc.

    Also, pay attention to the difference between a fact based report and an opinion piece. Barry Jackson reports facts. Omar reports opinions. Often opinions can be either purposely negative like Heath Evans or as objective as an opinion can be, like Darlington. Sometimes the negative opinions are founded in hate like Heath or founded in bitterness or vengeance for bad intel like Armando.
     
  8. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Agreed. Who cares.

    And, in fact, the Dolphins have to become a playoff team to prove they are worthy and as good as their record indicates. No team has proved anything at this point and history is basically on Florio's side.

    It's like the "Power Ranking" crap ESPN puts out. That is utterly meaningless. The way to shut someone up is to get it done on the field. There have been too many years to count of the Dolphins off to a great start and many pundits and most fans thought, "This year will be different," and it wasn't really.

    In 1992 we were 9-2 coming off a big T-Day win over the 'Boys and Scott Mitchell looked like a bonafide NFL QB ... and we wound up 9-7 and missed the playoffs. With Don Shula at the helm. Today, we are 5-3 and Joe Philbin is the coach. Should they not be skeptical?

    And, if I were just an objective, betting man, I'd favor the Lions. If Vegas favors the Lions it means they should be favored - they get it right most of the time or they wouldn't be in business.
     
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  9. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Well The Dolphins have been in contention for the playoffs many times since 2001 and only made it once. You aren't going to get a lot of people thinking you're a legitimate threat to the playoffs until you actually prove it.

    However, PFT has been against the Dolphins since before the season, so in this case I'm with you. Its one thing to say you don't think the Dolphins will make the playoffs, because well look at the choke job last year. But to say they aren't a legitimate team is a joke.

    Its probably because PFT had the Dolphins ranked 31ST in their preseason rankings. YES, 31st, just above the Raiders and below the Jaguars...
     
  10. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Everything you are saying is true. But to make a comment that they aren't legitimate at 5-3 is pure bull**** and you know it. They have blown out every opponent and lost in the last second to Green Bay after a nearly miraculous 4th quarter drive by the best QB in the NFL.

    The only thing more legitimate than the Dolphins record at 5-3 is that this douchebag is biased
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    were an excellent road team..like really good against the spread when were a dog..not so much at home when were a favorite...hmmm thats peculiar..lol
     
  12. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Well I believe we will definitely get tested this time. We'll either win or lose by a single score. Don't see a blowout from either side.
     
  13. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Don't know why anyone would pay any attention to this idiot or the others like him.
     
  14. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Well, to be fair, until we actually make the playoffs we're not a legitimate playoff contender. Being 5-3 doesn't win us anything. The team still has a long road to the playoffs. I'm optimistic but we can't count our chickens before they hatch.
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    To be fair, "playoff contender" doesn't mean some who makes the playoffs. Playoff contenders means a team with a legit shot at making the playoffs. So, yes, we are in fact playoff contenders.
     
  16. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Well technically every team in the NFL is a playoff contender then since they can potentially make it. Hearing some media buffoon say we are, or are not, playoff contenders doesn't make it any more or less likely that we actually make the playoffs. If you want to say we're a pretty good football team right now, I would agree with you but it's not actually possible to predict the future.
     
  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Not by the 8th or 9th week of the season. Oakland, for example is not a realistic shot at the playoffs.

    Also, we have more than W/L record going for us to make us contenders.

    Also, who here is trying to predict the future? In fact, Florio is more predicting the future than any of us are, by saying we do NOT have legitimate playoff hopes.
     
  18. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'd be wary of that both ways too, based on what has been said in Club, as they're MUCH closer to the team than you'd think.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    Does that prick ever bother discussing legitimate Xs and Os? Ever? I've yet to read any article of actual football substance by that guy.

    At least he didn't mention Incognito and or Martin this time around.

    Not gonna click that. Wouldn't wanna afford that site any more traffic than I have to.
     
  20. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Stafford is entirely capable of playing poorly...as much if not more than Rivers. We need to rattle his cage and we can win.
     
  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    The difference being, in club no one has an anti-Dolphin agenda or is trying to generate clicks, so the inside info is not sifted through biased filters. Also, let's not pretend our Club isn't where some of these hacks get some of their info.
     
  22. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Check your PMs. That's not what I meant.
     
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  23. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    It just shows how little informed some of these pundits are. If he had bothered to study the stats he would note that this is a team on the upswing .Our record could just as easily be 6-2 .

    The Fins are capable of beating any team in the NFL right now.And that includes the Lions,the Ravens the Bills and the Broncos.And if we dont beat them the games will be close with the difference being poor clock management by our staff or something to that effect.....loss to Packers for instance.

    I dont expect to see any more blowout losses .
     
  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Ahhhh got ya. My bad.


    Did you have to send pictures of your junk too though? So awkward.
     
  25. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Impressive, isn't it? :shifty:
     
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  26. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    why would you want to talk to uninformed people?
     
  27. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    No more than two? That is sad because Wake and Grimes should fly off the top. We have more than two known names around the league.

    Hell Finnegan is a name most people know, as is Delmas. Starks?
     
  28. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    The Vaunted 2-Name Defense
     
  29. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    How is anyone in the media inherently biased against any team? It's illogical for them to be biased against anything other than generating traffic.

    The reality is that these guys pander to the general public, and the public views Miami negatively, because they don't win consistently. You're essentially blaming the drug dealer for drug abuse.

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  30. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    What? Are you serious? I mean are you really and truly serious? At what point does a person stop becoming human when being a sports writer? Does this phenomenon stop with sports or does it carry over to other "journalism"? I mean are the people at MSNBC not biased? FOX?
     
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  31. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Florio's explaination while picking against us last week:

     
  32. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    The line is drawn when someone becomes a "professional", IE when they are compensated for what they're doing. Is there just something about the Miami Dolphins that inherently leads to sports writers hating them? Is this a conspiracy?

    Comparing this to Fox and msnbc doesn't make sense. Is Florio a competitor of the Dolphins???

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  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Ugh. This conversation is stupid.

    Please tell me what magical spell occurs when someone gets paid that their biases go away. While you're at it, who said all those guys are biased against Miami?

    Also, what in the hairy hell are you talking about with my FOX/MSNBC comparison? The people that work at FOX are biased against the left. The people that work at MSNBC are biased against the right. Both sets of people are professionals.

    We know for a fact Heath Evans is absolutely biased against Miami from what happened when he was a player. We know for a fact Jason Cole & Armando celebrated a Dolphin loss to the Jets, btw. Where's that professionalism?
     
  34. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Yup, our 5 wins boasted a 100 point margin of victory but we're not a real 5-3 team. :unsure: Just a bunch of drastic overachievers. Florio's got that cold, emotionless look to his eyes that makes you wonder if he's a pedo or sociopath. If there are any members of Anonymous who happen to be Miami fans, can you do us all a favor and hack his Twitter account or something.
     
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  35. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    lol And this man gets paid to write silly things like that. Idk if I should be more annoyed by him or the people who make his job possible.
     
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  36. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Media people can absolutely have biases against teams. I don't even think that should be a debate.

    Whatever the reason, and I do not care by the way, La Canfora has an axe to grind with the Dolphins. Heath Evans is evident.

    Francesa hates the Jets and everything and decision about them. He's biased against the Mets. Charles Barkley admits he hates New York teams, especially the Knicks.

    Stringer, not for nothing, but you can't be serious here, can you?
     
  37. heylookatme

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    Florio is a WVU guy and he is still upset about Pat White. Go back and read the PFT archives from the past 5 years or so.
     
  38. padre31

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    This is the ultimate 'burn the village to save the village"

    We are "not" a playoff contender until..we make the playoffs, how can you make the playoffs unless you win games..that have yet to been played.

    Personally feel our Defense is badass, we made Rivers look like Chad Henne, offense is coming around..ST worries the hell out of me..Sturrrrgggggggiiiiissss

    He has become this yr's John Jerry..he cannot be on my Dolphins roster
     
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  39. MikeHoncho

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    Fields hasn't been very good this year either.
     
  40. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    If a team makes the playoffs they are no longer playoff contenders, they are a playoff team. Once you achieve the goal you are no longer contending for that goal.
     

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