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Two Lessons the Heat and the League Should Learn

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  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Given the persistent success of the Spurs season after season.
    Given the longevity and success of their 'big three'.
    Given their adaptability.
    Given their persistent success in developing and using under-valued talent/lack of 'stars'.

    Two lessons that NBA teams can learn from the Spurs and which they now ignore at their peril:

    1 - Every/Any team can immediately improve simply by promoting and practising better fundamentals. Make the extra pass, get the better shot.
    2 - Stars who demand less from their contract allow their teams to build greater depth and thus also greater flexibility and resources. It's essentially a matter of diversifying one's portfolio!

    If all the teams in the NBA took these lessons on-board and began to commit to them my mind can only imagine the level and beauty of basketball we would see in the league.

    It'll be a shame if this is just a Spurs phenomenon.
     
  2. MikeHoncho

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    This is one of those classic cases of "easier said than done".

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  3. Alex44

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    Why should we take any lessons from them? Last time I counted we made four straight finals, our stars HAVE taken less money and we have been one of the best ball movement teams in the NBA.

    Rest of the league sure.
     
  4. Galant

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    Why? Because every team can get better and these are two ways every team can improve.

    Unless you're saying you're completely happy with how the Heat are and don't want to see them improve?

    FYI - Just to put this in context - looking at Duncan alone - in 2012 he took a pay cut by half - going from $21.16 Million (2011-12) to $9.65 (2012-13). He went from the 3rd highest paid player in the league down to the fourth highest paid Spur.

    The result? The Spurs could re-sign Danny Green, keep Boris Diaw, re-sign Patty Mills and add at the time add Nando De Colo.

    As for this year, the whole of the Spurs' big three makes just about $30 million, a little more than half the team's cap.

    The Heat?

    "...the Heat’s stars make $56,808,000 million. The salary cap is $58,679,000. After paying James-Wade-Bosh, that leaves a paltry $1,871,000 between the Heat and going over the cap."

    Source for team figures.

    Current salaries
     
  5. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    It's as if the Heat didn't win two in a row and make 4 straight finals.

    **** the Spurs.
     
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  6. Galant

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    So you're also completely happy with how the Heat are and there is absolutely nothing that can be learned from this?
    The Heat couldn't benefit from added depth?
     
  7. Section126

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    No. I am sure the heat is just gonna roll out there on opening night with just 3 guys and nobody else to back them up.
     
  8. Stringer Bell

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    The point is that the Miami Heat embody everything that you claim they need to learn. The fact that they lost the Spurs doesn't change that, the same way that the Spurs losing to the Heat didn't change anything that they did.
     
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    That gif doesn't apply here, but i just love the look on Weebey's face lol
     
  11. Galant

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    I'm sorry, did you not see the last quote in my post? Here it is again:
    "...the Heat’s stars make $56,808,000 million. The salary cap is $58,679,000. After paying James-Wade-Bosh, that leaves a paltry $1,871,000 between the Heat and going over the cap."

    How exactly is that the embodiment of stars demanding less in order to make space?

    And your sarcasm aside - clearly the Heat had depth issues.

    So one suggested solution is for the stars to renegotiate lower salaries to allow for a stronger bench.



    1 - The Spurs loss to the Heat was significantly different from the recent loss of the Heat to the Spurs. 5 games series vs. 7 and wins by the narrowest of margins (which could have gone either way) versus record-setting margins which were completely one sided. The Heat need to change this year in a way the Spurs didn't last year.
    2 - Whilst the Spurs didn't make any great off-season moves, they did what was necessary to secure their depth with Tiago and a couple of others. The point is that the change happened earlier than last season. Duncan's willingness to have his cash slashed by half, along with Parker and Ginobili taking low contracts allowed the bench to grow and for Splitter to be retained despite offers.
    3 - The extra depth allowed Popovich to also change his regular season rotations - setting a record for low minutes.

    All of these stem from the freedom the Spurs create in taking less money.



     
  12. MikeHoncho

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    Of course it doesn't...
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  13. Section126

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    Ok..as a TV Producer..I am gonna put that hat on and help you here.....

    Put on your head set....ok....

    "You are out of material..move on..."
     
  14. Galant

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    Was there a need for more material? All I got from you was sarcasm.
    Answer the question - do the Heat need greater depth or not?
     
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  16. Section126

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    They had great depth when they won last year. Their depth got old. Now you replace it.
     
  17. Stringer Bell

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    Yes, and the Heats three max players all took much less. They took less so they can sign guys like Udonis Haslem, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Mario Chalmers, etc.
     
  18. Galant

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    I.think that's as close to.a 'yes' as I an expect so I'll take it.

    I find it amusing, though, that you seem to think 'great' depth can suddenly become useless depth in one year.

    Still, since we agree that the Heat need to add depth this year would you also agree that it would be easier for them to do so if their big three weren't consuming almost the entire cap?
     
  19. Section126

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    Yes. and they did take pay cuts the first time that led to them having great depth when they beat the Spurs last year, while having their bench out play the SPurs bench.

    and again...check the last 8 years and see that the Heat have 5 Finals appearances and 3 Larry O's...they don't need to learn anything from anybody.
     
  20. Galant

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    Much less? The three of them eat up almost the entire cap.
    The point I am making is that what the Spurs have done as a team and as an organisation less the league in terms of consistency of performance and effectiveness in spending and a large part of that is due to the players themselves, especially their big three.
    By showing incredible commitment and sacrifice they have been able to build one of the deepest, most versatile and perennial effective teams in the league.

    That sort of productivity is amazing and is one way other teams and players can add value and performance.
     
  21. Stringer Bell

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    Yes, they took much less than they could have taken.

    Right, and the point everyone else is making is that the Heat do the same.
     
  22. Galant

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    If three players use up almost the entire cap then they are not doing the same thing. The cap is supposed to provide for the whole squad not just a few stars.
    That's the difference.
     
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  24. Alex44

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    You're wrong, get over it. Maybe Kobe can learn something from Duncan taking a pay cut at what? 36?

    Also were the Spurs not successful when Duncan was the third highest paid player...oh wait they were
     

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