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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by mor911, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. mor911

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    While I haven't been in love with the MGS series lately, i couldn't help myself but to download Ground Zeroes on PSN store last night. I got it for PS4 but didnt play it. I'll do that tonight. From what I hear about the length of it, I'll finish it tonight too. Anyone else gonna play it?
     
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  2. MikeHoncho

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    Overrated franchise IMO.

    If I wanted to watch a 21-hour long movie, I'd pick up any of the games after the first PS2 release.

    This one is probably a 16 hour cut-scene with some game play in between cuts like the others.

    I really liked the PS1 release back in 99', but that just may be the nostalgia. The next gen has made the game unplayable IMO.
     
  3. Desides

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    Xenosaga Episode II had multiple cutscenes clocking in at over an hour. MGS' cutscene length and frequency is far overstated.

    Also, you should know that reviewers are complaining that the game can be beaten in only a few hours. So much for that theory of cutscene length.
     
  4. MikeHoncho

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    Not a fan of cut-scenes. At all. Could care less about the other game TBH.

    Ah, so they cut back on the cinematics and focused on just gameplay... and that lasted only a few hours. How is that a positive?
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I honestly expect a more informed snark from you.
     
  6. mor911

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    From what I'm seeing in reviews there's a lot less kojima-codec conversation (i hated that crap soooo bad) and a lot more game oriented dialog. It seems like a good demo. I wish they'd just give it to people to hype them for the real game instead of making us pay for it... But in business, why give for free what people will pay for?
     
  7. MikeHoncho

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    Not trying to be snarky. Just anti-videogame-taking-itself-too-seriously.

    It's a video game. You hide in a box and knock fools out in stealth. Every so often you fight a huge robot. It's fun and there doesn't have to be so much (convoluted) rhyme or reason.

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  8. MikeHoncho

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    Agree. If you're going to have dialog, make it relevant to what the player needs to accomplish atm.

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  9. mor911

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    In the Gametrailers review the guy literally says, that for once the game isn't taking itself too serious... Which I liked. I though MGS went from a great series to a bunch over waaaaay over the top mess I could barely understand. Even watching the Metal Gear Retrospective it's completely confusing. Sometimes there's too much story in a game. MGS4 suffered this imo as well as FF13.
     
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  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    See I like the storyline...it is cool, these spinoffs they make in-between the real games I dont like....

    Just drink during it and it will be more interesting...the new game (PP) looks downright amazing...
     
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  11. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Finally someone who shares my hatred of the "WHOA, COOL CUT SCENE AWESOME GRAPHICS BRO!!!" ADD **** heap so many video games have become, e.g. Call of Duty campaigns.
     
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  12. mor911

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    yeah.... I don't think I like Ground Zeroes. Very high production value. This team knows what they're doing and it looks great. I just didn't have a good time with it. I also was probably playing it wrong and it was late so I was kind of rushing. I will make a more real attempt to play it tonight.
     
  13. Desides

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    MGS is among the least serious games out there. What other video game has you wearing a mask of the previous game's protagonist, only to be identified as an impersonator because the enemy grabbed your balls and determined they weren't the same size as the person you're impersonating?
     
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  14. MikeHoncho

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    Damnit. You win... this time...
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  15. mor911

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    I played this for like 2 hours last night. I started the mission over (the main Ground Zeroes mission). When I committed to the MGS brand of stealth, it was more enjoyable. I like the game... But I don't love it. Definitely an upgrade to MGS4. The controls when doing action stuff like shooting is far more enjoyable. I still can't grasp the MGS story. It's far too serious and has way too many moving parts. I feel like the end sequence in MGS2 screwed this story line up forever. I was texting my buddy while playing the game and he completely disagrees. He says the story is great and he can follow it fine. I am probably just not getting it because I'm not that interested.

    I also can't help but feel like Kojima and company could have done the good faith thing and gave this out for free. I know there's no real benefit for them in that but still. $30 for this is steep.
     
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    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    You're right, not your buddy. I've tried multiple times and methods to comprehend the MG story, including playing the original old versions of the game, reading wikis, etc. etc. and I still can't follow one bit of it.
     
  18. Desides

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    Which "original old versions of the game"?

    Also, the series' overall mythology and story isn't too dense. Frankly, it's amazing it isn't more complicated given how many Metal Gear--not just Metal Gear Solid--games there are. I think the real issue is that there were mythology-critical games released on the PSP that only a few people played.

    I'm also not sure what MGS2's ending has to do with anything... it's one giant tl;dr "The computers are controlling everything now." MGS3 tells us how the computers came to control everything. MGS4 tells us how the computers no longer controlled everything.
     
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    The Campbell part was one of the best sequences in gaming. Fission Mailed, damnit.
     
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  21. mor911

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    I do know people that legitimately enjoyed the whole thing. Assuming you're not being sarcastic, you are one of them. I never fault people for what they like... Hell, I loooooooove Splinter Cell. That series has gotten so bad and I still just love it. Even Conviction!
     
  22. Desides

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    Not being sarcastic at all. That entire sequence occurred because the worm cluster Raiden uploaded earlier in the game started messing with the AI that was pretending to the Campbell. It was a great sequence. Playable MG Rex in MGS4 topped it, but giant robots top everything.
     
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  23. mor911

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    And that sums up the genius of Titanfall!
     
  24. Desides

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    Nah, I think Titanfall's robots aren't very interesting. The Rex sequence was fun in ways Titanfall isn't, IMO.

    I'm also dying for a really good Gundam game. Rise From The Ashes was as close as we got.
     
  25. Desides

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    MGS5: The Phantom Pain is getting a release on Steam.

    In celebration, have 17 minutes of Gamescom footage.

    [video=youtube;ik7AUiFOO5Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik7AUiFOO5Y[/video]
     
  26. Desides

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    Snake gets a wolf.

    [video=youtube;zbVcqIoqAcA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbVcqIoqAcA[/video]

    Kojima is probably going to make sure it dies horribly.
     
  27. Tone_E

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    Hmmmm, seems like a certain TV series that is all the rage and based on an unfinished series of books written by a particularly sadistic fellow. :wink2:
     
  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;bUMMP2fY0fc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUMMP2fY0fc[/video]
     
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  29. Desides

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    MGSV Ground Zeroes is coming to Steam on December 18.

    MGSV The Phantom Pain will also be released on Steam.

    MGS Rising is out.

    #pcmasterrace
     
  30. Not So Fast

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    I want them to release the old games on Steam too. Not sure if there is some licensing or legal issues that would stop that from happening. Nonetheless, I am excited for Kojima and the Fox Engine coming to PC. It's going to be beautiful.
     
  31. Desides

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    Konami owns the games. There's no licensing issue, there's just a technical issue with spending money and time to port the games from the old platforms to PC.

    99% chance it doesn't happen, unless Konami also does HD remakes of the games, and uses the FOX Engine to enable PC versions by default.
     
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    That's all true. Hopefully they make another HD collection for current gen consoles/PC.
     
  33. Desides

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    I'd like full-on HD remakes of at least MGS1 and 3. 3 stands the best chance, IMO, since the environments found in The Phantom Pain are extremely similar to the jungle of MGS3.

    There are some MGS1 assets in The Phantom Pain as well, though. Metal Gear Rex, or at least a Rex-like prototype, was seen in the E3 trailer.
     
  34. Desides

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    [video=youtube;ZfxQ7nclvgo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfxQ7nclvgo[/video]
     
  35. Desides

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    Release date moved up. MGS5 now coming out on September 1. Metal Gear Online is delayed.

    And the PC requirements are out.

     
  36. Deerless Dice

    Deerless Dice Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    if you can stomach moon speak you can play Gundam Online
     
  37. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Assuming you mean SD Gundam Online, that isn't very good either, or at least not the kind of good I'm looking for. I also played it years ago when you had to connect to the Korean servers to play it.
     
  38. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;9e8r_xgms4M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e8r_xgms4M[/video]
     
  39. Deerless Dice

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    i mean this http://msgo.bandainamco-ol.jp/ it's Japan only so you need a vpn to play it, but it's there.
     
  40. Desides

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    Well, I appreciate the tip, but based on the trailer, this still isn't the Gundam game I'm looking for.
     

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