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Dave George: Miami Dolphins' faith in Joe Philbin doesn't inspire confidence in GM se

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by NaboCane, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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  2. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

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  3. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    how is it one hand tied behind your back? if this year the dolphins and philbin flame out, the GM fires philbin and chooses his own coach, problem solved.
     
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  4. Aquafin

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    is it set in stone that Ross cant change his mind on Philbin ? I think canning Philbin may be in our best interest but I will wait and see.
     
  5. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is it me or does it seem like while Dave George doesn't write a lot, when he does it seems to be negative about the Dolphins?
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Then do not apply for the job..simple
     
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  7. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    It is the bigger question that is posed.

    Does Stephen Ross know what he is doing?

    Answer: Probably not

    Up routing family, etc to move to Miami to be the OC or GM when the owner is Green and his intent long term is questionable......hard to sell

    Which is why we will end up with some one with no experience

    What a joke
     
  8. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    So tired of this Bucs vs Dolphins crap in the media... Like Lovie doesn't control the team
     
  9. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    If a GM insist on picking his own HC then has a "God complex" just like Irish.

    No thanks.

    Like it's already been said, if you aren't willing to work with Philbin, don't apply for the job.
     
  10. Considering Ross gave Ireland 6 years and 2 HCs before canning him, I would think most GMs would view Ross as a decent owner to work for that is willing to give his GM plenty of time to hire a develop people. I rather work for Ross than someone like Dan Synder
     
  11. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    yep and Ross just excluded 3/4 of those interested
     
  12. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    This is such crap. GMs don't usually have the power to fire head coaches anyway. It's usually always up to the owner.

    Also, the GM's job is to build a roster that can compete for Super Bowls. As long as he can work with Philbin this is just another BS article trying to paint the Dolphins in a bad light.
     
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  13. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I've never heard of the guy. I know NaboCane is a big fan of perception but if Omar Khan interviews for a job it's legit.
     
  14. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    You never interviewed for a job and half way thru thought - OH Hell NO
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It would be nice to shut these fu@&ers up but it seems we can't get the men in place to overcome..

    Need to draft badasses..identity players.
     
  16. CaribPhin

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    I'm not in a position to read this. Is it a reasoning piece by a writer or is it a sourced report?

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  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I'll tell you nothing more than it is from a local paper. With that info, which do you deduce?
     
  18. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    How come I envision you writing this drivel like this?


    What are you going to say when the team hires one of the better OC and GM candidates? Are you going to ***** about his ears and how they are holding the franchise back?

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    There's so damn much guess work and inferred meaning by this clown I don't know how anybody could take it seriously. He don't have anything solid, just guessing and hating...
     
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  20. 77FinFan

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    Hate. The article.
     
  21. CitizenSnips

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    I don't get this mentality. If anything, I would think a gm sees this as a win-win. Miami makes playoffs next year? Sweet, guess ill keep this Philbin guy! Miami misses playoffs? Sweet, I get to hire a new coach!

    Where is the downside for the incoming gm?
     
  22. padre31

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    Organizations have "official" structures, then actual structures, there is a legit concern that a newbie GM would be third fiddle on the Aponte/Philbin band.

    Personally feel it is BS, the more important consideration is whether the GM can acquire the TYPE of talent Philbin needs for his systems.

    This to me was Ireland's fatal flaw in Miami, poor scheme fits, but guys he liked

    Add in classic moves like the failed FA's, which consistently happened, the donut holes in the draft.

    Where Ireland will be missed is later rd picks, and finding acorns in season.
     
  23. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    A GM does not need to be a Czar, hiring and firing everyone in the building. I don't know where the idea came from?
     
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  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    :sidelol: so many baseless ASSumptions right there.

    BTW, it's uprooting, not up routing.
     
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  25. Ohio Fanatic

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    You have no idea what you're talking about. There are only 32 GM jobs in this league and a ton of aspiring execs. With Philbin in charge, it might dissuade the top 5-10% of candidates, doesn't mean we still can't get a good one
     
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  26. SICK

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    Dave George: Miami Dolphins' faith in Joe Philbin doesn't inspire confidence ...

    No one was on a hotter seat than Ron Rivera entering his third year. They fired Marty Hurney and brought in a very top candidate from the NYG Dave Gettlemen as a GM being "thrusted a coach he didn't pick". They play Sunday in a home game with a chance to go to the NFC championship. And they had a death sentence of a salary cap when Gettlemen took the job. WITH a lame duck coach!!!

    These local writers are a joke. All I remember was support during the gm hiring process here in Charlotte from the observer and local radio.

    I honestly don't understand the vitriol and venom these local beat guys are spewing against the team they're paid to cover.

    It's sad unprofessional. and proves they are idiots, because the only guys that "made it big" from south fla (Darlington, Le Betard, Sedano, Guiteirez etc) were unbiased, thought provoking and would tell both sides when needed. Never 100% bs and conjecture.

    Maybe that's why they made it?

    Take notes Armando, I know you read this forum to steal information. So you're probably reading this.


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  27. What I am amazed by is the fact that they are still employed. Its almost as if the local papers dislike their football team. I stopped reading their garbage long ago. I don't expect the homerism garbage you get from the team website but Armando and others do nothing but write hit pieces.
     
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  28. Triggercut

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    They are employed for the same reason the National Enquirer is still on stands at the check out line. When you read his articles you are checking out, man.
     
  29. Fame

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    What I find funny about all of this is that Ross is actually conducting this search exceptionally well, looking a ton of bright, talented candidates for the GM position who all seem very interested in the job...and yet the media continues to slam the organization for baseless nonsense like this. I personally would have fired Philbin, but I can't complain with the way Ross is acting toward his head coach. He obviously feels different, or knows something I do not, and he's sticking to his guns rather firmly while still interviewing the best GM candidates available.

    So my question is, where is the list of better GM candidates who turned us down because Philbin is still our coach? Who are all these amazing GMs who hate Joe Philbin and the Miami Dolphins? I want to see that list if its really such a problem.
     
  30. Nappy Roots

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    Yup, I used to visit the local Miami papers websites constantly. Haven't visited any of the online papers in years.
     
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  31. ASOT

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    But a lot of people don't want to be bothered wasting a year of their life, and will take another opportunity if it is there or stay in there present situation than take the mess Ross is presenting to them.
     
  32. Larryfinfan

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  33. jw3102

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    Who needs to visit the local South Florida papers to see what the media has to say about the Dolphins. Every time an article is written in the local papers, positive or negative regarding the team, it is posted on this forum and the posters read it and make comments regarding what was stated by the individual writing the article.

    Armando, Omar and the rest of the sports writers in South Florida don't care if you like what they are writing or not. All they care about is that people are commenting on what they wrote. They are all hired and paid to get people to respond to what they write. Their bosses don't care if you think they hate the Dolphins and not very good good at their jobs. To these bosses, the fact so many people are discussing the articles written by these reporters is all they care about.

    I am sure every time these reporters cash their pay check. They are laughing at all the people who make negative comments about them. Because as long as people are making comments about them, good or bad, they are doing exactly what they are getting paid to do. Personally I get a kick out of all the people who get on here and degrade the comments of these reporters, because those same reporters love the fact they are being discussed in this or any other forum. In fact they probably get a raise at work, every time they write an article that generates huge comments on forums like this.
     
  34. Fin D

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    Who are these people and how is this wasting a year of their life?

    This is just an immensely stupid stance. The new GM will have a one year get of jail free card while he evaluates the roster and the HC. If they turn it around he gets most of the accolades, if not he gets none of the blame.
     
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  35. Larryfinfan

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    That may be more true of players than FO and coaching staffs. They aren't bound by age, like players... Look a new GM comes in and he'll be on a bye for the first year, unless he goes totally "call a draft picks mom a whore"... We have a basically young roster... I don't think that, particularly for an up and comer GM that having the coach in place is much of an issue. The issue might be the stability of the FO heirarchy, but not the thought of 'wasting' a year...
     
  36. djphinfan

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    Local, national, the all seem to want to take cheap shots at this franchise..maybe their still jealous we got Lebron.
     
  37. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And when you have those type of earpieces, you usually wind up with a culture that reflects it..
     
  38. Aquafin

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    I agree but if this is the case how is it that these media clowns have jobs ? I wish those media clowns would all get the axe .
     
  39. Section126

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    you don't know what you are talking about.
     
  40. fin13

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    He's looking for acorns cause he **** up the draft, think about loosing one year of the rookie 4 year contract cause they are injured when picked, you have to take into cosderation the opportunity cost of those failed pics.
    For example Egnew didn't play the first year and little the 2nd now only 2 years left at a low rate, say he gets going year 3 by year 4 you are paying big $'s or you loose him.

    Ireland has been ****ing this **** up for six years.
     

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