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WR preference- Mike Evans or Kelvin Benjamin?

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by jim1, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Might as well get this discussion started, both are big receivers, Evans has the wheels and Benjamin has the ridiculous catch radius, red zone terror.

    Evans:

    6:42 here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icjr3eF-HpM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl2OfgKbEBs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2dcmtpgAw

    Benjamin:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkyr7Qv8mc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2T3FAEkCk

    Freaking beast. Something interesting at 2;24 of the link right above- KB in the red zone from about the five, kind of a low trajectory fade pass- he locates the ball over his right shoulder, realizes that the pass is heade over his left shoulder, turns his head away from the ball in the air, adjusts from a right facing posture to a left facing posture and not only makes the catch, but makes it look easy. Good stuff. You combine that red zone prersence with a more efficient RT to Wallace connection, add some quality OL pieces, maybe a Te like Fiedorowicz and maybe get Gibson and Keller back, and you've got something to work with there. KB certainly isn't the fastest WR around, but what he brings to the table we need in spades- ball skills red zone threat, scoring threat, all of that.

    As to KB vs Evans- really, I don't know yet. On the face of it I would say Evans, but I need to see a whole lot more.

    The Play Maker Draft:

    1. Mike Evans
    2. Kelvin Benjamin
    3. CJ Fiedorowicz
    4. Santreal Henderson
    5. Billy Turner
    6. Wesley Johnson
    7. Jon Halapio
     
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  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I prefer Allen Robinson. :lol:
     
  3. NUGap

    NUGap Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    To me it's Mike Evans and it's not even close. Here are the various attributes of each WRs:

    -Mike Evans, better YAC
    -Mike Evans, better on screens
    -Mike Evans, better hands
    -Tie, red zone yardage/receptions
    -Tie, variety of routes
    -Tie, % deep catches, YPC
    -Mike Evans, younger

    You know, Kelvin Benjamin is interesting as a big WR, but to me Evans is a big WR and takes it to the next step. He's not just a catch point, jump ball guy but has the ability to generate good run after the catch and not drop easy passes. Evans is like the next evolution of Kelvin Benjamin, except he's younger.
     
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  4. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Kelvin Benjamin, it's not complicated.
     
  5. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Evans seems like a headcase to me. I could see potential problems for him in the NFL as a result.

    Benjamin would be a great addition to Miami. I think I favor him, but only slightly

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  6. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    It is complicated, because although KJ is a red zone terror, he has some Ernest Wilford in him when it comes to speed and explosiveness, suddenness- he's no burner. Plus he was held back not one but 2 years in school when he was 12 or so, which could be an issue of intelligence, concentration, or maybe some really weird shiznit since he won;t discuss the nature of what went down, as far as I can tell. Very, very interesting player, but no shortage of flaws there.
     
  7. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I disagree. I feel Benjamin is exceptionally explosive for that size, more explosive than Evans. This is not Wilford, BJ Cunningham, run of the mil non explosive big.

    I think Evans is more polished, cuts into routes better, finds soft spots better, and thus helps the QB better. But Evans is not as explosive an athlete.
     
  8. NUGap

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    Here's part of my problem with Benjamin and that's poor hands/ drops. This video are some of the drops I noticed (the first clip is a double catch). You have to actually watch his attempts to see this stuff, it doesn't show up on highlight reels.

    [video=youtube;3llpin2PFv4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3llpin2PFv4[/video]
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    For me it's Mike Evans and as much as I like Kelvin Benjamin, it's not close.
     
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  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    You're right, it's not complicated. Mike Evans all the way.
     
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  11. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    It's early, you'll come around.
     
  12. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Nope. This one I about guarantee I'm not coming around to.
     
  13. Phinfanjt

    Phinfanjt New Member

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    Benjamin is 6'5". Wilford is 6'4". Mike Evans is also 6'5". Why was BJ Cunningham brought into it? He's 6'1''
     
  14. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Because the central issue is explosion and suddenness, or lack thereof. BJ Cunninham lacked that, clearly, that's why he's relevant here.
     
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    Are you implying KB lacks speed?? That's not the case at all. I would venture to say KB has better long speed then Evans.

    I would still take Evans though for various reasons. But I thinks it's fairly close.
     
  17. Phinfanjt

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    Actually the statement was that Cunningham was a run of the mill non explosive BIG. Cunningham isn't big. He weighs more but he's the same height as Hartline.

    Either way I'm not getting over a meaningless debate over this. I just think bringing BJ Cunningham into a conversation about "big" receivers was extremely lazy
     
  18. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    KB looks like a long strider to me who lacks explosion and suddenness. That's what I'm seeing, and my concern is how much separation he'll be able to get on CBs in the pros.
     

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