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Every Tannehill dropback against Buffalo

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Mainge, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Mainge

    Mainge Season Ticket Holder

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    [video=youtube;3sPEqJRrNDw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPEqJRrNDw&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    Make sure to watch in 1080p.
     
  2. phintasmic

    phintasmic Banned

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    whoa dude! Are you allowed to post that?? I think the NFL is pretty picky about stuff like that?
     
  3. Mainge

    Mainge Season Ticket Holder

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    Probably not but I'm going to keep doing so until they stop me.
     
  4. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    God bless America...
     
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  5. SICK

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    Around 3:20.....the big play to Wallace down the right sideline, dude was wide open....was it a double move? I hope so, if not man did Tannehill hesitate like a mofo and it seemed he FINALLY decided to throw it....wish it was more natural. unless of course it was a double move and he had to wait...
     
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  6. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

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    Wow seeing it like that let's you put the magnitude of the suckitude into perspective... The tackle play ;).
     
  7. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Note the coverage on the Pick 6 - and that Martin had lost position on Mario Williams within the first seconds of the snap. The only guy open was Gibson. If Tannehill wasn't already being pressured by Williams, he may have seen the DB closing immediately on Gibson and thrown it away, or attempted to scramble. Of course as Williams already had a head of steam and was coming full out, Tannehill likely would have been sacked or stripped...


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  8. Finrunner

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    I don't agree that Gibson is the only guy open. The receiver about to cross the middle from right to left already has a step on his man, and the middle of the field is wide open for mega-yards.

    I think Tannehill probably saw space on a pre-snap read and went quickly to Gibson (not quick enough).
     
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  9. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, watching that video makes you realize how much duress he is under. When he gets time, he makes plays. Even when one person is beat he shows he can move around in the pocket. Martin getting tossed to the ground like a girl, even against Williams, is just horrible technique and play.
     
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  11. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Right, but that's where the pressure comes in... if he had more time to survey the field, then I'd agree with you. Tannehill either gets the ball out right then or gets plastered by Williams.
     
  12. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    That was around 3:05... Tannehill was waiting for Wallace to get down field and if you watch his helmet, it appeared that he was looking the safety off before coming back to the right to pass. The next play around 3:20 was where he hit Clay on the sideline, who failed to get both feet down in bounds.
     
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  13. CaribPhin

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    You have to watch literally one second of video after this shot to see the receiver doesn't continue to the open area. Honestly, based on his body positioning, you can see he doesn't continue that way from the still.
     
  14. Coloradotrv

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    Even in real time I felt the first pick was more of a defensive play than a boneheaded one by tannehill. Now the second one....
     
  15. Griese's Glasses

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    Lots of good plays in there. Outside of that red zone INT throw...he had a great game...
     
  16. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Let's not get crazy.
     
  17. phintasmic

    phintasmic Banned

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    Wow, this line is atrocious, god awful.

    It's worse than I thought.
     
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  18. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Yeah, the second one was all on Tannehill. That is at 1:15 or so. He simply didn't see the DB peel off Clay and sneak back there. Sucks that Gibson dropped the ball from the pass before. Could have possibly changed the complexion of the game otherwise.

    At 57 seconds in the video, Tannehill hits Wallace, who had to dive to make the catch and does. Wallace then lays on the ground for 2 seconds until a defender comes over and tags him. I was yelling at the TV Sunday when that happened for him to get up and run. I think Wallace was shocked he wasn't touched down. Wish he had gotten up and ran though.
     
  19. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Or he steps up in the pocket...
     
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  20. padre31

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    Instant pressure destroys offenses, this is what we were watching.
     
  21. GMJohnson

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    Has anyone mentioned that Buffalo's pass protection was even worse?

    And Cleveland's.

    And Indy's.

    And Atlanta's.

    And Baltimore's.
     
  22. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    No team has a worse tackle tandem than the Dolphins. None.

    I don't even know what you're trying to prove.
     
  23. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Exactly. Look at Denver vs Indy the other night. Indy was getting instant pressure on Manning, and he was going down. They completely disrupted Denver's offense.
     
  24. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Safety was over the top. Tannehill had to drop it in the bucket

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  25. GMJohnson

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    It's a pretty straight forward opinion. I believe Bree's is the only QB we've faced who got better protection than Tannehill in the games we played them.

    And I don't know how you could make the above statement without watching the other 62 tackles closely. Is that what u did? Cause it sounds like hyperbole to me, no offense.
     
  26. rdhstlr23

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    This whole reel illustrates what we knew about Tannehill. When he guesses the right defense presnap, he's a stud. That's why he's so great at beating the blitz. When he's forced off his first/primary read, he's just not very good there.

    He locks onto guys and struggles reacting to a defense mid-play and making the right read, and anticipating the throw with accuracy. By the time it processes, he throws it late or inaccurate. That's why you see balls over the middle behind guys sometime and those deep balls to Wallace aren't leading him.
     
  27. GMJohnson

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    He is still learning to read defenses and after that he will learn to manipulate defenses, last he'll learn to do those things while also anticipating and reacting to the rush. It's a a process and it will take time.
     
  28. padre31

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    Sort of, one also notices he rarely has a check down option like a Rb, which is an odd thing to do w/a young Qb, very old school and different from what we saw with Henne.

    I also think they have a limited number of "go to" plays when they need to create some yardage and Wallace is not in that limited number of plays, I think Gibby is though.
     
  29. GMJohnson

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    I think "deep to Wallace" should be a go to play, especially on first down. I'd also like to see more screens to Matthews and shallow crosses to MW. Matthews is our best YAC receiver and crossers are a good way to use MWs speed wo running him into a cloud and tiring him out.

    I thought Sherm did a much better job mixing it up last week, hopefully the trend continues.
     
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  30. padre31

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    Just me, think keeping the Rb in every play to block on passing plays unties the D's hands and makes things much easier for them to apply pressure.

    This is one of the reasons why I bang the Thigpen drum
     
  31. GMJohnson

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    Good point.

    It's on Thigpen to earn the coaches' trust bc he def has the ability to make plays.
     
  32. maynard

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    The play @2:16 is one that really bothers me. It bothered me when I saw it live and is confirmed by the video. When it happened live I happened to be keying in on Sims.

    Tannehill is looking Miller and only Miller the whole way. He is blanketed. Ryan's eyes draw Alanso to Miller, leaving Sims wide open for a sure first down. I may be overreacting, but this play worries me more than the pick 6

    Also, Gibson's 2nd TD celebration was pretty awesome
     
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  33. Marino420TD

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    6:02 mark. A receiver is wide open at the bills 30 in the middle of the field. May have been real tough to complete and spike with time left for a fg. Wish we tried that on first down with more time.
     
  34. Serpico Jones

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    I'm not sure you can teach that.
     
  35. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    The Wallace deep catch looks like he go thit as hr threw it. I'll take that throw he made while getting popped. Good chance if he doesn't get hit, that's a bigger play. After Miami came up with the INT I was screaming for them to go deep to Wallace right away. Seize that momentum and set a tone. Did they? Of course not.
     
  36. padre31

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    This is one of the Staff's weaknesses, for example it was obvious there were issues with Clabo in the NOLA game, they stuck with him two more games, possibly 3 more games, almost 25% of the season.

    Their trust can be misplaced and they do not realize it.

    For example straight up, would you trade Lamar Miller for Reggie Bush.
     
  37. Rocky Raccoon

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    Ugh, WIDE open right in the middle of the field. This is why I try to avoid watching replays after a loss, it just makes me more angry.
     
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  38. NolePhin15

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    You've got to wonder how much the instant pressure has effected Tannehills clock. Even when he does have time that clock goes off after about two seconds and he makes some type of decision. It's gotta be tough for him to go through the reads clearly.

    I also think the line is why we don't see more deep routes. The receivers don't have time to get downfield.
     
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  39. vt_dolfan

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    Brian Hartline said this week it has effected everyones clock..even he receivers

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  40. unifiedtheory

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    Seeing it just reminds me how pissed off I am still.

    And makes me ask, why the **** do we ignore the middle of the field like it's a pit full of crocodiles?
     
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