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Planetside 2

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  1. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So, no one mentioned anything about Planetside 2 yet?

    It is a free MMOFPS. I must say, one of the best games I’ve played. You can have HUGE battles, up to, and usually near it, 2000 people per continent. There are 3 continents in the game, per server. At the moment, there are plenty of servers available as well. You can have multiple players per server, one in each faction as well. However, all of the experience you gain, or buy (in game credits) that are used to upgrade your player, doesn’t carry over from server to server, or character to character. In some cases, from class to class as well. They pay structure is expensive. For example, it is literally $7 ……. for one gun. And then you don’t get to carry over that gun from one server to the next. That is why not many people dump money into the game. The in game experience, or certification points used to freely buy upgrades is a grind. To get that $7 gun, you’d have to play dozens of hours.

    This game isn’t a pay to win either. A level 1 can easily defeat a level 40. The default guns are very comparable to the upgraded guns available.

    It is PC only, and you need a pretty good rig. Not only a decent GPU, but you need a good processor to handle the massive battles and sheer number of people on any given server.

    Teamwork is emphasized in this game. It has an outfit > platoon > squad structure. You can join an outfit (clan) that may have multiple platoons going in game, each platoon capable of a 4 squads of 12 players. Usually you only find one platoon per outfit at any given time, but it is great fun when you have 4 full squads coordinating within a platoon.

    There are plenty of vehicles, including quick ground transport via atv, then you have deployable troop transport, several tanks per faction, and air vehicles. In the air you have a single person fighter, 3 person bomber, and 13 person Galaxy troop transport.

    It isn’t uncommon to be part of a zerg rush with a column of tanks and air support overhead. You can’t match the experience. When you are in a full Galaxy (13 player air transport) and you have an escort in the air, you just feel like you are in a sci-fi movie like Avatar or something.

    To help the teamwork, there is in game proximity, squad, platoon, and outfit VOIP.

    It really is a huge scale Project Reality BF2. I strongly recommend it for anyone.

    There is a steep learning curve, so feel free to ask some questions.
     
  2. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Here are a few videos to show you;




    [video=youtube;nMOIoyrfJWU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMOIoyrfJWU[/video]

    [video=youtube;lUJy1uRfhA8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUJy1uRfhA8[/video]

    [video=youtube;pVxsWuFlgiE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxsWuFlgiE[/video]
     
  3. dolfan32323

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    I have been playing this sparingly too. It is a lot of fun- but I really no idea what the heck I am doing out there lol. I highly recommend at least downloading it.
     
  4. Tone_E

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    Yeah, it can be overwhelming at first, and I still don't know all the nuances. Great game though once you become comfortable and confident.
     
  5. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Looks like a blast... but no way could I play that on my PC's that I have.
     
  6. dolfan32323

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    You can try Team Fortress 2, which is free on Steam as well.
     
  7. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    I've tried PSide 2 a few times, and I like it. the concept of the game is great, and the graphics are DAMN damn good for a F2P, probably the best i've ever seen in that sense.

    but unfortunately, like it or not, it is a 'pay to win' game. if you can pay money in a F2P game to get anything more than 'aesthetics' it is a pay to win game. Even if its just a negligible upgrade in weaponry and all paying does is get you it a tad 'quicker' than not paying for it, thats the concept of pay2win. And even though a level 1 can kill a level 40, thats just the same concept as any given sunday, and that can happen in any game, pay to win or not. Not trying to be nit-picky but its not really that good of a defense for a f2p p2w lol. I personally tend to stray away from those games as a whole, but hey thats just me, and it doesn't make the game bad. F2P is just the new 'in' thing atm

    Personally - I like steam/valves free to play concepts much better than ALL others thus far. I'm a long time DotA fan, and all paying does in DotA 2 is get you gear/armor that is more aesthetically pleasing and customizable, doesn't improve stats or turn the tide of games any which way. Also Team Fortress 2 is a very good example. You CAN pay for weapons and crates to unlock weapons and gear that does in-fact change your stats, but the game devs cleverly made every weapon upgrade in that game have severe drawbacks that normally make default weapons better than them in the end anyway. I.E. this gun is 2x stronger than the default gun, but shoots half as fast, and makes you move half as slow while using it. Things like that, all it really changes is playstyle as opposed to power, which is pretty fun.

    I digress, PlanetSide 2 is pretty damn cool, overwhelming as **** at first, even for a life long FPS player, but I'm thinking about trying to spend more time on it, when i'm not playing DotA.
     
  8. Tone_E

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    I won't put a penny in the game! The standard issue guns are just as good, if not better in some cases, than the guns available for purchase/unlock.

    My KTD ratio is 1.5 - even though the game is not meant to be focused on that ratio, more capping and defending bases, supporting your team via medic, engineer, etc.

    I will not agree that this is a pay to win game at all. Maybe with newer weapons coming out in the future, but not as it is now.
     
  9. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not arguing with ya, I agree with you 100%. The premise is that its a massively multiplayer online role/team based FPS. so it's not going to make a huge difference one way or the other. I've also heard plenty of people who are good at the game say the default guns are alot better in alot of ways

    but - for examples sake - the fact of the matter is, when it comes to f2p games and pay2win it is like this:

    If you can buy a gun that does 100 damage with real money, when the 'free' gun that everyone starts with does 99.9 damage, it is considered 'pay to win'.
    -Even though the difference is negligible,
    -Even though you can use the 99.9 damage default gun and go 50-0 killing anyone with the upgrade.
    -Even though you can MORE than likely get the gun with in-game currency as opposed to money if youre willing to wait a week or a few days or so.
    -Even though you yourself can buy the gun and just get owned all day by people who don't pay.

    It is what it is. "pay to win" is obviously a bad phrase and should be used very loosely, but that is the difference between a f2p game that you pay for upgrades vs a game you are paying for looks/aesthetics.

    Now I will repeat - This is such a massively huge game, it really doesn't matter if you have A .50 cal made by god himself or a water pistol, its objective and team based so who really gives a ****. i'm just explaining the concept and real definition of 'pay to win' because some games are so much worse than others, but it is still the same idea.

    I remember trying a steam F2P shooter, i think it was called blacklight retribution. this game was so pay to win it was painful, to the point where you almost dont have a chance unless you do pay. -- Thats ******ed -- and PS2 isn't like that, but it is still going to fall into 'that' category, unfortunately, to a lot of users... Now, I won't ever put a dime into the game, and i'm sure i'd whoop on countless people who do indeed pay.

    :up:
     
  10. Tone_E

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    Well, by definition, any FTP game is pay to win. No game will only offer aesthetics for real money. No one (well, you'd think, but there are idiots who do) puts money into aesthetics.

    PS2 is made pretty equal. You mention a gun's damage in your example. Some PS2 unlocked guns reduce damage, but increase rate of fire. Other increase damage but reduce rate of fire and increase recoil. It is all a preference, but there is no clear cut gun that will provide a superior advantage to a paying customer.

    At the end of the day, their pay structure is ridiculous. Really, $7 for a gun? $5 for a skin? Keep in mind that if you play a Light Assault for example on a US-East server, and put $60 worth of in game currency into that character, and them move to California, you can't delete the character and transfer the player's in game currency to a US-West server. Nope, you have to delete the character, start a new one on the new West Coast server, and pay again.

    Utter stupidity. I will not even consider giving them a dime. Maybe if the re-do their structure it will cross my mind for a second or two...maybe.
     
  11. dWreck

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    Atually - by definition - That is incorrect. - there are a LOT of games that you can pay for non stat-altering items, and ONLY those. My example was DotA 2. I've played dota collectively for 10 years or so now, and now that DotA 2 has different customizable skins, armor sets and things like that - I have no problem putting $5.00 here or there to deck out the dudes i choose in swag. it's whatever to me, and I enjoy it. But my point is there are a lot of games (especially valve made) that are free to play that only let you purchase items for 'looks' and thats IT. Obviously that concept would be borderline ******ed in an FPS style game...paying for skins/looks. but not all genres of games.

    My argument is simply 'pay to win' as a phrase is incorrect and a misconception, you are NORMALLY paying for an upgrade that is either free to get if you are patient enough, or has draw backs that try to balance it. I'm not saying planetside 2 is a game that if you put money in you are automatically good and will beat other people who dont pay. But, if you can put a dollar in a game to buy a gun that alters a stat even by a fraction (REGARDLESS OF DRAWBACKS), --to the gaming world it is known as a 'pay to win' game. That is how the term came to be, because people would use it as an excuse if they died to someone who purchased something....even if they are just a scrub. 'pay as you go' or something like that would be a better phrase to coin for games like planet side 2, since its free, with buyable options.
     
  12. Tone_E

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    This is my first F2P game, so we'll leave it at that.

    You are speaking of "pay to win" in absolutes, but there are definitely varying degrees of it. That is all I was trying to say. For you, it is a 1 or a 0. For me, the scale is 1-10 so to speak.
     
  13. dWreck

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    I'm not really because in almost all of my posts i use specific examples of the varying degrees, (See DotA 2, TF2, Planetside2 and Blacklight retrib.... that is literally like 0, 1, 5, and 10 on the spectrum:lol:). but that is a fair assessment, I've played quite a bit of f2p games and ive kind of seen the extremes one way or the other. PS2 is probably one of those games you could never honestly tell a difference. A lot of people consider it a pay to win game. even some people who play it regularly, regardless of how bad it really is or isn't. I've even read articles about it when it released classifying it as that, although it was said in a comical fashion, like "oh look another one, woohoo". Essentially if its pay to win on a scale of 1-10 thats the same as saying it is or it isnt lol. but I don't wanna argue over something so trivial. The game is pretty damn fun, and looks like it has a very big upside once you learn the ropes.

    provided - if you have a computer that can run it well enough :lol:

    I just tossed in a second gpu in my gaming rig, and its now beastly. im running it comfortably at like 40-60 fps. but my friends who have GOOD computers are getting like 20s and 30s. lol thats insane for a f2p lol.
     
  14. Tone_E

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    I seem to be running fine. It does take a pretty damn good computer to run. I just got a new ivy bridge processor and a EVGA 560 ti GPU, so I seem to be fine. I will upgrade my GPU when I have to, likely for Arma 3.
     
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    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    thats whats up man! EVGA 560 Ti. Same here. That was the card I got when I built my rig. I love Evga and I absolutely love the card, So when it was on sale on black friday i snagged a 2nd lol. It is an absolute monster and a workhorse for the money.
    You shouldnt need to upgrade it any time soon...and the 560ti is one of the best SLI budget cards on the market. When I disabled SLI and ran just 1 card the game did okay. still anywhere from like 25-45. pretty noticeable difference especially in combat

    http://i50.tinypic.com/2v2a59v.png
     
  16. Tone_E

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    NICE!

    Was thinking of SLI'ing the 560's, but figured I would put the money towards a next-gen card when they become more affordable, like a 680 or 690.

    The 560 is doing fine for now, especially since my monitor's max res is 1680 x 1050, so I don't strain it all that much with the newer games.
     
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    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    When building my rig, I read so much about how good the 560s were for the price and how amazing they were with sli, I built my rig revolving around doing it in the future, got the mobo and everything that would work pretty stream line with it. I was contemplating about just replacing my solo 560 with something higher end but i decided to go this route. The first card I bought about a year ago when making my rig was like 250$... i just got the one on black friday for like 169.99 and it came with some free stuff too... so i couldnt pass that deal up. I have a 24" monitor and I play my games at 1920x1080 and its never skipped a beat, even when it was one card. My goal is to get 2 more 24"s and run a tri-monitor set up.

    i run with a i5 2500k+ 3.4 quad, nvid evga 560ti x2 and 8 gigs of ddr3-1600 ram, it has pretty much beaten up anything ive played so far. It'll be a long time before i change cards methinks

    This is my baby:
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    and edit: Dont even know about Arma3 all that much, but i do love DayZ :lol:
     
  18. dolfan32323

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    How is DOTA2? I enjoyed the first one, played some League of Legends, and stopped playing both because they were too damn addicting.
     
  19. dWreck

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    I Played dota 1 for too damn long lol. I personally love the source engine, nowadays anyway. so I REALLY like it.

    Its an exact port, items,heroes,money, names.... everything is the same as current dota, down to the minute. the only thing you have to get used to is playing on a nice engine as opposed to wc3 from 20 years ago lol. if you liked DotA, you'd like DotA2. I just love the style of game really, 'MOBAs' their called. Shiz is fun. I have some invites if you want one. and addicting is right lol

    p.s. : I'm a dota player so LoL is baby trash to me :up:
     
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    Haha- yeah LoL is much simpler than dota to say the least. Glad to hear it stuck to it's core. I appreciate the offer for the invite but I have to pass. I know I will spend all my free time playing that dang game if I got into it again. Enjoy it man!
     
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    Simpler is a light way to put it! Lol. and Before DotA 2 came out, Heroes of Newerth came out and was a pretty cool dota port, but dota 2 is just the ultimate. its really sad to me how popular LoL is.

    I honestly didnt think anyone on this board played pc games. Lol
     
  22. dolfan32323

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    Oh yeah I enjoyed HoN a lot. LoL is just so easy. It's mindless and dumb- I enjoyed it nonetheless but the community is trash. I just got a new laptop and can *finally* play games at a decent FPS. It's amazing. I am playing Guild Wars 2 and Tropico 4 these days,
     
  23. Tone_E

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    Very nice rig. I got the coolermaster haf 922 case as well. I love it. I don't have a side fan though. I don't think i need one because I have the corsair h100 water cooling system.

    I heard the same thing about the 560s, that they are great in SLI, and I was considering the same thing. Never too late I guess, but I am fine with what I have now.
     
  24. dWreck

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    I bought the extra oem red led fan just for looks mostly. But SLI does run pretty Damn hot. I love the case.
     
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    Planetside 2 is awesome, but I still think Planetside 1 is one of the most underrated, awesome games ever. PS1 had an amazing soundtrack, and nothing like being able to physically hack and hold a base.

    PS2 runs well on my system on high settings with 2560x1440 resolution:
    Core i7 3770k 4.7ghz
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    Geforce GTX 670 sli,
     
  26. Tone_E

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    I don't think there is anything you can't run with that beast.

    How did you get your 3770 from 3.5 to 4.7? What temps you running as well?
     
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    Custom water cooling. I believe stressed ran in the 60s sometimes.peaking in the 70s if i remember correctly. Runs rock solid stable, much better than the core i7 920 I had before.
     
  28. Tone_E

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    Good job man. I have the same processor but know nothing about overclocking. I got the ASUS Z-77 Sabertooth mobo with the graphical bios (UEFI?) that should make it easy to do with pre-settings and stuff, but I still don't want to touch it until I do my research. There really isn't a need to overclock it at the moment anyway because it has enough processing power for today's applications - all of which use only two cores mostly anyway.

    Same with my 560 ti, I was thinking about overclocking it with MSI Afterburner, but my limited knowledge and lack of need really kept me from doing that for now.

    Either way. You should be set for a while.
     
  29. dWreck

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    Decided to boot up planetside 2 with the woman last night, kinda teach her how to play, even though ive only played 2 or 3 times for a maximum of maybe like 4-5 hours ever

    after about an hour we both came to the 'f**k this' conclusion and shut it off

    I just flat out don't like this game. i LOVE the concept and the idea, I think its one of the better ideas for a MMO style game thats come out in a long time.... I just absolutely despise the execution. It's possible its something I could like, If i dedicated enough time to it and played with my big group of friends, but meh.

    not to say anything bad about it as a game, just my opinion, and its not my cup of tea :tongue2:

    But hey, I tried. :up:
     
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    I've been getting back into it, actually. I think it is fun- but I have no ****ing idea what I am doing lol. There needs to be a damn tutorial or something. I am getting owned out there.
     
  31. dWreck

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    one thing my girl said was "its really stupid how they just throw you into it immediately, with no training or anything". Now at first I thought the concept was cool, but with a game as intricate as this, that is trying to be an mmo hybrid of battlefield and halo, I think its a bad idea overall. Lol. Like I said, its a very cool game, just not something i'd get into aside from once in a very, very, very blue moon.
     
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    I agree. It's beyond me how there is no tutorial. Game is not noob friendly at all.
     
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    Planetside 1 had a tutorial. Maybe in the future there will be one for 2. The way PS2 was implemented was different from PS1. It is like an ongoing beta.
     
  34. Tone_E

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    Planetside 2 involves a learning curve, but it isn't too difficult to learn. With youtube nowadays, you don't need a dedicated tutorial system, there are so many third party tutorials on youtube, just search for them.

    I haven't played this game in a while though. It seems like the biggest zerg rush wins. I will let them update and develop it a bit and maybe go back later.
     
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    bold - Thats true, although I never use guides in any game, I feel like you shouldnt HAVE to do this for a game. Lol.

    italicized - Thats what I was talking about when I mentioned concept. the concept of this game is 10/10. easy. maybe 11/10 because I like the idea that much. but the execution of the game is meh. personally the execution is like a 5/10 middle of the pack attention grabber.
     
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    Ok so I played this game now for about 5 days straight... starting to get a hang of it. It's pretty fun. However I then loaded up Team Fortress 2 for the first time in a long time... good bye Planetside 2, lol.
     
  37. Dolphin1184

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    You should have played Planetside 1. In certain ways, it is actually a better game than PS2. In fact I am waiting for Sony to make it Free2Play.
     
  38. VanDolPhan

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    I'll stick with guild wars 2. Then try out Elder Scrolls Online when that hits since the vast majority of my pvp guild is waiting on that.
     
  39. Tone_E

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    Just updated and went back into PS2. Gotta say, much different than anything I've been playing lately, Arma 3 King of the Hill or EPOCH, and I'm having a blast. I forgot the sheer scale of this game. Well, not really, but it still feels new, having 96+ players against 96 players over one section of a continent is pretty intense. I'll be in PS2 for a while.
     
  40. MonstBlitz

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    I tried for awhile to get into this. Really what it boils down to is I'm just too old to learn how to play a FPS with keyboard and mouse at this stage. The game definitely had some cool aspects to it, but I was so terrible at it, it wasn't fun.
     
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