you guys need to check it out. action pc creates a software where you can simulate seasons. you don't have to use madden. its based on the previous years stats. i have a friend who's in a bills message board simulation league. they have 24 teams....w/ logos team info etc its a great league guys!
i know i trolled y'all in the main forum but i was 1000% serious about this. we have the BBSFL (buffalobillsimulation football league) on the official bills message board and i'm in another league NAAFL (North American Action Football League) which is on the bills message board BIllievers.com. We have many non-bills fans in that league (eagles fan, 2 pats fans, green bay, chicago and a couple others). its a lot of fun. here is a link to the actual action pc website http://www.dksports.com/ ---DK stands for Dave Koch. the guy who's developed the simulation software. if anyone is interested i'll keep my username here and u can send me a PM then i'll send you my email address so we can talk more.