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    Default Olivier Vernon finding his way on path from ’Canes to Fins

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...osition=recent

    Still in the infancy of his NFL career, Vernon hasn’t backed down despite his rookie status.

    During one minicamp drill last month, Vernon got into a scuffle with Dolphins star left tackle Jake Long — one Vernon dismissed as a heat-of-the-moment-type tangle.

    “We’re cool,” Vernon said. “It’s a battle. Everyone’s always competing every day. You’re trying to win one-on-ones. You’re trying to get to the quarterback. The offensive line, they’re trying to block. They’re trying to get pancakes and stuff like that, but it’s competition.”
    “I think Dolphin fans will look back two years from now and say that they ended up with three first-round picks in Vernon, (Ryan) Tannehill and Miller.

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    Nice little piece on Vernon.

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    How can they try to pancake if it's a no contact mini camp ?

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    To bad we have to go outside of our own to find good material..

    This gets me excited for camp..I wanna really see for myself if Golden is just pimpin his own, or if these dudes are and have legit first round potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djphinfan View Post
    To bad we have to go outside of our own to find good material..

    This gets me excited for camp..I wanna really see for myself if Golden is just pimpin his own, or if these dudes are have legit first round potential.
    Eh, hard to say at this point. Lamar Miller, yeah, I think he's got some talent. I don't think he's the next CJ2K or anything like that. Vernon on the other hand, from what I've seen strikes me as almost a Matt Roth 2.0. If Kevin Coyle's defense is similar to what Mike Zimmer was running in Cincinnati, there's a role for Vernon, but at this point in time, I don't think he's a guy you're going to expect to get any more than 5 or 6 sacks/impact plays from. Hopefully I'm wrong. With Miller at least, I can envision him taking over the Reggie Bush role after this year if they don't bring Reggie back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninFin4 View Post
    Eh, hard to say at this point. Lamar Miller, yeah, I think he's got some talent. I don't think he's the next CJ2K or anything like that. Vernon on the other hand, from what I've seen strikes me as almost a Matt Roth 2.0. If Kevin Coyle's defense is similar to what Mike Zimmer was running in Cincinnati, there's a role for Vernon, but at this point in time, I don't think he's a guy you're going to expect to get any more than 5 or 6 sacks/impact plays from. Hopefully I'm wrong. With Miller at least, I can envision him taking over the Reggie Bush role after this year if they don't bring Reggie back.
    We're gonna get to see how far serious strength can take a raw player in his first year, he's got the motor, he's got the body, need to see where his instincts are and what he can and can't do with his body from an athletic standpoint, can he bend around the corner, does he have the talent to make moves on his opposition and make plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djphinfan View Post
    We're gonna get to see how far serious strength can take a raw player in his first year, he's got the motor, he's got the body, need to see where his instincts are and what he can and can't do with his body from an athletic standpoint, can he bend around the corner, does he have the talent to make moves on his opposition and make plays.
    Look no further than Vernon Gholston. Sheer strength and above average athletic doesn't automatically translate to good football players. Certainly helps, that is for sure.

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    I dunno what the big deal about picking UM players is at this point. You don't get any specific advantage from it, it's no different from scouting players in general.

    It's not like UM players playing for the Dolphins have any special rapport, either. No one really cared about Vernon Carey unless it was to **** on him when he started breaking down physically and he had a long, quality career here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duss View Post
    How can they try to pancake if it's a no contact mini camp ?
    Nice try, Mike Florio.

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    Read the same piece in the Palm Beach Post last weekend, was just too busy to post it. Good read.

    Really do think these three Canes could all turn into starters and contribute rather quickly in fact. Wouldn't that make for a seriously great draft this April? And before anyone crucifies me on that statement, I haven't seen even a decent draft in the last 10 years IMVHO. We've gotten better though since Ireland took over without Parcells' looking over his shoulder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emocomputerjock View Post
    Nice try, Mike Florio.
    Bet ya didnt think I was trolling here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipate View Post
    I dunno what the big deal about picking UM players is at this point. You don't get any specific advantage from it, it's no different from scouting players in general.

    It's not like UM players playing for the Dolphins have any special rapport, either. No one really cared about Vernon Carey unless it was to **** on him when he started breaking down physically and he had a long, quality career here.
    I've never really disliked Carey. He has been an okay player for us, but he could have been a lot better if he actually worked on his body and conditioning. He always seemed to report to camp a little over-weight and never seemed to get better from a physicality standpoint.

    In a way I always resented Carey because we passed on Vince Wilfork for him. I wanted Wilfork so bad during that draft. Also if I recall correctly, we traded up 1 spot to take Carey, burning a 3rd or 4th in the process. Basically, every time I would see Carey I would think of Wilfork and what could have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UCF FINatic View Post

    In a way I always resented Carey because we passed on Vince Wilfork for him. I wanted Wilfork so bad during that draft. Also if I recall correctly, we traded up 1 spot to take Carey, burning a 3rd or 4th in the process. Basically, every time I would see Carey I would think of Wilfork and what could have been.
    It could have been worse
    We could have picked Will Poole over Jared Allen

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