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    Quote Originally Posted by slickj101 View Post
    What I'm saying is that CLE absolutely drafted Weeden to be the starter and McCoy was/is on his way out long before any practice.
    Evidence? The Browns have said multiple times they'll give Colt McCoy every opportunity to win the start. And Seneca Wallace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Evidence?
    Don't you remember last year when McCoy got that concussion?

    Everything started to go down hill from there if you saw what his family was saying about CLE.

    I don't think I really need any evidence to explain why nobody would seriously consider Seneca Wallace to be a legit candidate in a QB competition.
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    Weeden should easily win that job easily just for the fact that he has unknown potential. Wallace and McCoy suck, and have sucked their entire careers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcduffie81 View Post
    Weeden should easily win that job easily just for the fact that he has unknown potential. Wallace and McCoy suck, and have sucked their entire careers...


    Not to mention he's not getting any younger and this will probably be that FO's last shot before they're bounced out of Cleveland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slickj101 View Post
    Don't you remember last year when McCoy got that concussion?

    Everything started to go down hill from there if you saw what his family was saying about CLE.

    I don't think I really need any evidence to explain why nobody would seriously consider Seneca Wallace to be a legit candidate in a QB competition.
    Just like David Garrard isn't seriously considered competition for Ryan Tannehill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Just like David Garrard isn't seriously considered competition for Ryan Tannehill?
    Yea, Garrard and Wallace, that's a real even comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Evidence? The Browns have said multiple times they'll give Colt McCoy every opportunity to win the start. And Seneca Wallace.
    They say they'll give it. That doesn't mean they think it'll be an even competition. Saying is one thing, what they think and want to happen is a whole nother

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Evidence? The Browns have said multiple times they'll give Colt McCoy every opportunity to win the start. And Seneca Wallace.
    Isn't that kind of like someone saying they have 100% confidence in Sparano after trying to hire Harbaugh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Between Ryan Tannehill and David Garrard I like the combination better than if the alternative were just signing Matt Flynn. But between Ryan Tannehill and David Garrard versus Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson, that decision would definitely have me awake at night.

    Brandon Weeden I would take over them all.
    Brandon Weeden, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill is exactly why I didn't want to sign Matt Flynn, especially Weeden and Wilson, but, if your front office believes that Flynn is good enough, it also probably believes that you shouldn't be taking a Qb in the first round..I'm happy we weren't that front office..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I would say that this "story" is completely ridiculous, but the counter-point to it would be what's going on in Cleveland. The Browns fully intended to create a quarterback competition between Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden and Seneca Wallace, but that hasn't materialized because Brandon Weeden has absolutely blown the hell out of the competition already. So now the Browns are left back tracking and trying to figure out ways to change their mind without looking like they're changing their mind. So, in that sense, Matt Flynn could have technically done the same, although I would personally say not really since he's not the type to overwhelm you with a physical skill set.
    I think that in both scenarios the teams had a clear favorite of who they would like to see win the jobs, but yes those situations do contrast each other based on the early results. I think clearly the Browns hoped Weeden would win the job. You don't draft a 28 year old QB with thoughts of him sitting very long IMO. From all reports though, he is looking great in camp, so regardless of who they wanted to win the battle, Weeden would still be the guy based off of performance. In Seattle I think you obviously want Flynn to win the job as well. You go out and sign him, and while he may not have gotten a huge deal you still sold him as being a franchise guy even though you always said it would be a competition. Despite that, he has failed to pull away from the field.

    I like Flynn and think he will eventually win the job, but I think the Dolphins knew what they were doing when they low-balled him and despite all of the BS they took from the media and fans, I think they handled the QB situation very well this offseason.
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    During the off-season, "Guys, he only had two starts, that proves nothing. Flynn isn't an upgrade"
    After a few throws in June, "See, we were right to pass on Flynn."

    Not pro-Flynn or anything and wouldn't be shocked if he didn't start week 1, just find that funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports24/7 View Post
    I think that in both scenarios the teams had a clear favorite of who they would like to see win the jobs, but yes those situations do contrast each other based on the early results. I think clearly the Browns hoped Weeden would win the job. You don't draft a 28 year old QB with thoughts of him sitting very long IMO. From all reports though, he is looking great in camp, so regardless of who they wanted to win the battle, Weeden would still be the guy based off of performance. In Seattle I think you obviously want Flynn to win the job as well. You go out and sign him, and while he may not have gotten a huge deal you still sold him as being a franchise guy even though you always said it would be a competition. Despite that, he has failed to pull away from the field.

    I like Flynn and think he will eventually win the job, but I think the Dolphins knew what they were doing when they low-balled him and despite all of the BS they took from the media and fans, I think they handled the QB situation very well this offseason.
    imo, its only a matter of time before Russell Wilson takes over that franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djphinfan View Post
    imo, its only a matter of time before Russell Wilson takes over that franchise.
    I don't know about a matter of time, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if 2 years from now he was their starting QB and doing well in that role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I would say that this "story" is completely ridiculous, but the counter-point to it would be what's going on in Cleveland. The Browns fully intended to create a quarterback competition between Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden and Seneca Wallace, but that hasn't materialized because Brandon Weeden has absolutely blown the hell out of the competition already. So now the Browns are left back tracking and trying to figure out ways to change their mind without looking like they're changing their mind. So, in that sense, Matt Flynn could have technically done the same, although I would personally say not really since he's not the type to overwhelm you with a physical skill set.

    Brandon Weeden is guy i wanted more than Tannehill. i have a post before the draft that i've been waiting to bring back up but i'm waiting til Weeden and Tannehill has played enough in the NFL to compare them. Hopefully they're both good. in that post i stated that Weeden wouldn't go past the 22nd pick to Cleveland and that's exactly what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyNeverInhaled View Post
    Brandon Weeden is guy i wanted more than Tannehill. i have a post before the draft that i've been waiting to bring back up
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Between Ryan Tannehill and David Garrard I like the combination better than if the alternative were just signing Matt Flynn. But between Ryan Tannehill and David Garrard versus Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson, that decision would definitely have me awake at night.

    Brandon Weeden I would take over them all.
    We get it. You like Weeden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fin-Omenal View Post
    We get it. You like Weeden.
    There's a few of us out there..can't help it, I hope our boy kicks ass, but I'm confident Weeden will..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fin-Omenal View Post
    We get it. You like Weeden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex44 View Post
    I've never felt Flynn was an upgrade over Moore and never wanted him, so I'm fine with this news.
    I agree... having said that, I would fully expect Moore or Flynn to have beaten out Tavaris Jackson.
    I mean were not talking talent here when mentioning Jackson.
    If Flynn can't beat out him.... wow.... MAJOR bust warning.

    Having said that.
    Teams aren't even in pads yet so I wouldn't really be concerned at all at this point if I was a Seattle fan.
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