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    Default 2012 should be a very simple draft for Miami

    2012 should be a very simple draft for Miami
    basically, I think the team is set,
    we have the talent to coach our offense into a formidable unit

    1) Clay will play TE in this West Coast offense opposite Fasano
    2) Gates, Hartline, Wallace & Bess @ WR provide size, speed & go-to potential
    3) Long, Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry, Murtha (Garner/Carey) provide the makings of an excellent OL
    4) Bush & Thomas @ RB are more than adequate
    5) Moore & Gerrard @ QB allow us to begin the season competently.

    the only draft pick we have to nail down is Ryan Tannehill & I believe he will be there @ eight, if not we move up & get him
    after that concern is addressed, it's a matter of best @ pick for the rest of the draft
    over-all the team looks very strong in every department offense, defense & special teams
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    Ireland will not draft Tannehill at 8. It goes against how he drafts. Chances are he will draft safe/trade down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    2012 should be a very simple draft for Miami
    basically, I think the team is set,
    we have the the talent to coach our offense into a formidable unit

    1) Clay will play TE in this West Coast offense opposite Fasano
    2) Gates, Hartline, Wallace & Bess @ WR provide size, speed & go-to potential
    3) Long, Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry, Murtha (Garner/Carey) provide the makings of an excellent OL
    4) Bush & Thomas @ RB are more than adequate
    5) Moore & Gerrard @ QB allow us to begin the season competently.

    the only draft pick we have to nail down is Ryan Tannehill & I believe he will be there @ eight, if not we move up & get him
    after that concern is addressed, it's a matter of best @ pick for the rest of the draft
    over-all the team looks very strong in every department offense, defense & special teams
    Your saying our team is basically already set entering the draft? yeahhh.....

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    pretty much
    we can always upgrade through the draft but I see no glaring holes to be filled.
    wants & needs are two different things
    the only real need we have is for a Franchise QB & he is available to us in 2012
    seems simple enough to me

    coaching should make the difference @ this point in our development, once the issue of the Franchise QB is behind us
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    Maybe you missed the fact that we went 6-10 last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    pretty much
    we can always upgrade through the draft but I see no glaring holes to be filled.
    wants & needs are two different things
    the only real need we have is for a Franchise QB & he is available to us in 2012
    seems simple enough to me

    coaching should make the difference @ this point in our development, once the issue of the Franchise QB is behind us
    The thing is Tannehill is a huge reach at 8. There isn't a huge gap in talent when your talking about Tannehill, Weeden, and Foles. I'd rather take BPA at 8 and draft Weeden in round 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    pretty much
    we can always upgrade through the draft but I see no glaring holes to be filled.
    wants & needs are two different things
    the only real need we have is for a Franchise QB & he is available to us in 2012
    seems simple enough to me

    coaching should make the difference @ this point in our development, once the issue of the Franchise QB is behind us
    we don't have a WANT at or LE spot, its a NEED. we don't have a WANT at WR spot, its a NEED. Same can go for the right side of the line, we can't put the house on Jerry and Murtha at this point.

    I believe coaching will make a difference but your post seems like your forgetting that we only won 6 games last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKing View Post
    The thing is Tannehill is a huge reach at 8. There isn't a huge gap in talent when your talking about Tannehill, Weeden, and Foles. I'd rather take BPA at 8 and draft Weeden in round 2.
    yeah a stud at #8 and Weeden in the 2nd would be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterSean View Post
    yeah a stud at #8 and Weeden in the 2nd would be awesome
    I hate to say it but I think Ireland will play it safe and take DeCastro at 8. His first goal is to trade down and if that fails he will play it safe.

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    Trade down and get another second.

    1) Fleener
    2) WR (BPA)
    2) RT/DE (BPA)
    3) Osweiler
    3) DE/RT (Whichever you didn't take in 2nd)
    4) Tommy Streeter

    My draft. The BPA just means BPA at the position listed. Also Buckeye if we take DeCastro I'll actually be thrilled. In my opinion he's a hall of fame talent. Usually I would never justify taking a guard that high but in my opinion an elite guard can completely change your offense in the passing AND running game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKing View Post
    I hate to say it but I think Ireland will play it safe and take DeCastro at 8. His first goal is to trade down and if that fails he will play it safe.
    Yeah would be boring, but we would be establishing an elite offensive line. Think about that though 5 drafts and Ireland takes 3 OLineman that's pretty nuts, some people will flip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nappy Roots View Post
    Maybe you missed the fact that we went 6-10 last year
    wouldn't get too hung up on this 6-10 thing
    two words explain it: Sparano & Henne

    moan & groan & ***** all you want
    but there is talent on the team & we are not rebuilding
    the coaching cadre is experienced & motivated
    let them make the difference, it's how they earn their keep

    no more excuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    wouldn't get too hung up on this 6-10 thing
    two words explain it: Sparano & Henne

    moan & groan & ***** all you want
    but there is talent on the team & we are not rebuilding
    the coaching cadre is experienced & motivated
    let them make the difference, it's how they earn their keep

    no more excuses
    Yeah their is definitely talent on this roster but to say we don't have any needs entering the draft is senile.

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    7 QBs. Can't miss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterSean View Post
    Yeah would be boring, but we would be establishing an elite offensive line. Think about that though 5 drafts and Ireland takes 3 OLineman that's pretty nuts, some people will flip.
    Yeah but it fits what Ireland does. Trade down or takes the safest pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    wouldn't get too hung up on this 6-10 thing
    two words explain it: Sparano & Henne

    moan & groan & ***** all you want
    but there is talent on the team & we are not rebuilding
    the coaching cadre is experienced & motivated
    let them make the difference, it's how they earn their keep

    no more excuses
    Defensively were pretty set from maybe a few needs but the offense is a mess IMO. Not rebuilding but far from being a playoff contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterSean View Post
    Yeah their is definitely talent on this roster but to say we don't have any needs entering the draft is senile.
    we have one real need: a Franchise QB & it must & will be addressed in this draft
    other than one real need, there are only possible upgrades
    our best strategy would be the best player regardless of position @ any given pick, rounds 2 through 7

    this team needs to be coached & compete, not rebuilt
    I think it is possible that Moore can get the team into post-season this year with our current roster

    with the parity in the NFL today
    the difference between teams usually can be found in 4 things:

    1) Coaching!
    2) Coaching!
    3) Coaching!
    4) Franchise QB

    Tannehill @ 8 there is no debate
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    Sorry but you're delusional
    We have the WORST wide receiver group in the NFL
    Our #1 wide receiver has 1 td in the past 26 games...No cause for concern here????

    4 TDS all season for the group of wide receivers you have
    News flash...teams don't win when the core base of wide
    receivers have 4 tds between them.

    Yeah were set on the offensive line with giving up 52 sacks last season

    Garner has started 9 games in 3 years
    Murtha has started 4 games in 3 years
    Carey isn't even on the team
    Jerry is ????? He has 1 good game versus Buffalo and
    people around here have him going to Canton

    Be lucky if were 6-10 next season unless we draft 8 all pro players

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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    wouldn't get too hung up on this 6-10 thing
    two words explain it: Sparano & Henne

    moan & groan & ***** all you want
    but there is talent on the team & we are not rebuilding
    the coaching cadre is experienced & motivated
    let them make the difference, it's how they earn their keep

    no more excuses
    There is no stand out talent at Qb, Safety, Wr, or at RT. RG could also use an upgrade.


    The skill positions are?

    We're not *****ing, or moaning! What most people are doing is pretty clear. Pretty clear that they watched the Dolphins go 6-10, and realizing that the HC and Qb were only a part of the problem.

    What you're doing is well.....dreaming comes to mind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the 23rd View Post
    2012 should be a very simple draft for Miami
    basically, I think the team is set,
    we have the talent to coach our offense into a formidable unit

    1) Clay will play TE in this West Coast offense opposite Fasano
    2) Gates, Hartline, Wallace & Bess @ WR provide size, speed & go-to potential
    3) Long, Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry, Murtha (Garner/Carey) provide the makings of an excellent OL
    4) Bush & Thomas @ RB are more than adequate
    5) Moore & Gerrard @ QB allow us to begin the season competently.

    the only draft pick we have to nail down is Ryan Tannehill & I believe he will be there @ eight, if not we move up & get him
    after that concern is addressed, it's a matter of best @ pick for the rest of the draft
    over-all the team looks very strong in every department offense, defense & special teams
    If Tannehill is gone by the time we pick at #8, then it is too late to trade up and get him.
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