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    Default Miami Dolphins: Pros & Cons To First Round Options from The Sun-Sentinel

    Miami Dolphins: Pros & cons to first-round options Sun Sentinel by: Omar Kelly

    First-round picks are like ice cream flavors. Everyone likes a different favorite. Here’s a list of the five possibilities for the Miami Dolphins at pick No. 8, and the pros and cons to pulling the trigger on each. And they are ranked based on my humble opinion.

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    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...d-options.html

    A lot of sports media sources are now starting to see us passing on Ryan Tannehill in the first round and instead picking UNC defensive end Quinton Coples. They see the risk as too great. They warn against drafting for need and instead taking an immediate impact player at #8.
    If Ireland and company are following the trend or this line of thinking, (not saying copying trend) then maybe we are considering Weeden or Osweiler or maybe someone else in the later rounds?

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    Two more weeks and the debate will be all over. Going to be a long two weeks.
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    I think Coples would be the absolute worst possible pick for us at #8. Even if he plays at a high level, the impact he'll have on this team in terms of overall improvement would be minimal, IMHO. Throw in the work ethic concerns and it has disaster written all over it.

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    How has Blackmon dropped so far in the eye of the "experts"? Seems like their opinions are media driven in the sense that Richardson is now top 5!?!

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    Seems like the media is all over the board except for Luck and RGIII.

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    I finally realized why Omar used to say "deuces" all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xphinfanx View Post
    Two more weeks and the debate will be all over. Going to be a long two weeks.

    Yeah, the draft always feels like forever away.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandarilla View Post
    How has Blackmon dropped so far in the eye of the "experts"? Seems like their opinions are media driven in the sense that Richardson is now top 5!?!
    He doesn't have elite size or speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan Dupree View Post
    He doesn't have elite size or speed.
    Seriously? 4.45 seems fine for his style of play...at least his balls are elite, I mean, he feckin' single-handedly won that bowl game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finascious D View Post
    I finally realized why Omar used to say "deuces" all the time.

    He's letting us know every time he takes a dump on the internet.
    It's like the "OM" at the end of a shi++y mantra...He had to be an affirmative action hire. Man does he suck at tweeting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandarilla View Post
    Seriously? 4.45 seems fine for his style of play...at least his balls are elite, I mean, he feckin' single-handedly won that bowl game
    It is good to great speed, however it is not elite.

    The reason why he can fall is that he is amazing at what he does in college, however in the pros he doesn't have elite measurables. He isn't 6-4, doesn't run sub 4.4 and doesn't have elite quickness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan Dupree View Post
    It is good to great speed, however it is not elite.

    The reason why he can fall is that he is amazing at what he does in college, however in the pros he doesn't have elite measurables. He isn't 6-4, doesn't run sub 4.4 and doesn't have elite quickness.
    Cool, I hope he drops to us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandarilla View Post
    How has Blackmon dropped so far in the eye of the "experts"? Seems like their opinions are media driven in the sense that Richardson is now top 5!?!
    Maybe with some media pundits but surely not in any football scouts minds..He's a game changer, blue chip prospect, no doubt, won't get out of the top 6 IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonstBlitz View Post
    I think Coples would be the absolute worst possible pick for us at #8. Even if he plays at a high level, the impact he'll have on this team in terms of overall improvement would be minimal, IMHO. Throw in the work ethic concerns and it has disaster written all over it.
    Those work ethic concerns are BS. There is no way you can be that great at stopping the run with a bad work ethic.

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    I don't see Coples as a difference maker. I agree with Boomer's comparison with Kendall Langford. He's a nice player assuming he's motivated, but he doesn't have that elite burst to fill that pass rush need.


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    Cons: Can the Dolphins really afford to invest a fourth first-round pick in an offensive lineman this decade, no matter how talented he is? Pick No. 8 is also relatively high to select an interior lineman.
    Yes and they will if they can't trade down. IF we trade down expect a DE or WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandarilla View Post
    How has Blackmon dropped so far in the eye of the "experts"? Seems like their opinions are media driven in the sense that Richardson is now top 5!?!
    I would take Richardson over Blackmon and not think twice about it. A WR only gets the ball 5-6 times a game. A great running back, which Richardson will be in the NFL, can be involved in 20-25 offensive plays a game. Richardson is projected to be the best running back to enter the draft since Adrian Peterson. I see Richardson as the third best player in the draft, only behind Luck and RG3.

    If Blackmon, Tannehill, and Richarson were to somehow all slip down in the draft and were available when the Dolphins select at eight, I would hope that Ireland would be smart enough to draft Richarson. Unfortunately I don't see Richardson still being on the board when the Dolphins select in the first round, so my hope is that Ireland decides to take the one player left on the board I believe can come in and make an impact immediately, Luke Kuechly. I believe Kuechly will be a future pro bowl LB and a possible HOF candidate once his career is over.

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    There were at least two blatant typos I found in the article. It's a shame he has a job...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan Dupree View Post
    It is good to great speed, however it is not elite.

    The reason why he can fall is that he is amazing at what he does in college, however in the pros he doesn't have elite measurables. He isn't 6-4, doesn't run sub 4.4 and doesn't have elite quickness.
    Been saying this for some time. At 6'1, 207 and running in the high 4.4's - he'll be a good WR who will take some time to develop but not worthy of a top 10 pick. Had he come to the Combine and measured 6'3, 225 and ran a 4.45-4.5 he'd probably be a top 5 player. But one has to question his ability to physically dominate NFL DB's (and that is a big part of his college game).

    I actually like the ND kid better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da 'Fins View Post
    Been saying this for some time. At 6'1, 207 and running in the high 4.4's - he'll be a good WR who will take some time to develop but not worthy of a top 10 pick. Had he come to the Combine and measured 6'3, 225 and ran a 4.45-4.5 he'd probably be a top 5 player. But one has to question his ability to physically dominate NFL DB's (and that is a big part of his college game).

    I actually like the ND kid better.
    I always like to look at what WR's do when they face elite competition. You could argue that the best DB's Floyd faced this year was Florida State's. He had one of his worst games of the year, only 5 catches for 41 yards. He also caught for 4 for 28 against USC. (Not to mention 4 for 27 against Pittsbugh)

    It doesn't mean he won't be solid in the NFL, but he put up some nice numbers against some horrifically bad D's and disappeared when facing solid ones.


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